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100+ comments holy cow.

Copying what I said in the Steam forum topic on it since a VP developer has been posting in there:

I never get the "I'm not a PR guy" reasoning. If you do a major release then have a PR guy ready, that shouldn't be a secret key to success. That should be a bit of common sense.

If you don't do some form of public testing then crap like this will happen, I tell this to every developer who doesn't do a public beta and then sees posts like this.

I've seen the "no houses around to test for Linux", as pointed out the LinuxGameCast (Venn) do a fair bit of testing and could have helped, there's also http://www.gamingonlinux.com which could have helped test...but nope neither crew where approached to even do minor testing. Again no outside testing was done AT ALL.

Having THE top end newest generation Intel i5 and an Nvidia 560ti and I see crap performance on LOWEST settings is bloody unacceptable to me. That instantly tells me along with the multitude of other people seeing the same issues that the testing before-hand was utterly flawed.

There are also reports on the Steam forums that some of the people claiming to have great performance are level 0 Steam accounts (meaning a brand new account), it's starting to sound fishy to me: Found one here, level 0 and hidden profile claiming it's on par with Windows.

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I think worrying about the wrapper is very relevant, people should feel free to use whatever tools they want to bring games to linux, the important part is that they support their linux releases.

Christian

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The crash on exist seems to be a known Steam specific issue: http://en.cdprojektred.com/support/crash-exit-linux/

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I'll probably get METRO 2033 but I'm not buying MLL again until it's heavily reduced on sale (at least 75%). By that time it'll be time to revisit it.

I do get the feeling that they're quite focused on squeezing the customer base for all they can get. It doesn't endear them to me, although I'm still grateful we had MLL as soon as we did (I loved it and paid full price, plus the DLC).

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Quoting: Silviu

Quoting: vaRPlease, liam, stop the hired guys from posting. Same thing on the forums. This won't work with decent pc specs and is just awful. CDProjekt should be ashamed.

Censoring replies from anybody, unless they behave poorly, would be a really bad thing.

Wait, so vaR is suggesting that CD Projekt RED is hiring folk to post positive comments about their Linux experience?

Well, vaR, I hate to pop your bubble, but that's not happening here. If you think it is... well, good luck with that tinfoil hat.

As for me, I've been contributing to this site for over a year now and my experience on The Witcher 2 has been superb. It has two issues - it crashes on the tutorial for me, and sometimes it will announce a crash when I quit out of the game (which is irrelevant really). But the quality of this game is amazing. I'm really enjoying it so far and as others have said, this is still early days for CD Projekt RED and Linux. I expect that they're building Linux support for The Witcher 3 at an even more integrated level now and hopefully GoG support will be just round the corner.

Happy times!

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I wouldn't knock them for using the layer. Bought it!

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Quoting: philip550cIve heard about this problem from all the way back in the doom days but I still dont understand how fov helps with motion sickness?

This video explains it in some detail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blZUao2jTGA

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I can't imagine they would miss that opportunity to have a sure success title. But I think they're really busy now with porting stuff, Steam Machines, Streaming, their Controller, maybe developing a new engine etc. So I assume it will come, but not that soon.

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Quoting: philip550c

Quoting: c00kie55Installing streaming server on a windows 7 virtual KVM machine with 16gb ram and the AMD r9280 gpu passed throug with newest virtio drivers for both ssddisk and network card instaled the game Rise of the triad had big lags when using host as client. I havent tryed passing throug a dedicated network card to the streaming server or using bridged network so i can use the laptop as clint to the virtual streaming server yet.

A virtual streaming server makes it possible to hide the signal through a diffrent monitor or monitor input source.

This is what I want to use the NVIDIA grid cards for. Run a couple instances of windows with the grid card and stream to the rest of my house (except the desktop). http://www.nvidia.com/object/grid-boards.html

Do you think this will be powerfull enough for high gpu intensive games ?
also what hypervisor are you planing to use ?
how much do you think this solution will cost ?

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Quoting: Anonymous

Quoting: mintguyI forgot to mention that I am using an Optimus setup and tried to play with bumblebee command "primusrun".

Did you try it with optirun?
I sometimes have different results with the two commands.

Yep. Tried optirun and primusrun. But no luck for me. =(

The funny thing is that it starts with the integrated Intel chipset. Sadly without most of the textures and unplayable choppy framerate but it is a start...

I hope they fix it for Optimus setups.

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As previus comments I´d rather see them fix the original M:LL release. I´m stuck a few chapters in the game, not able to continue, which really sucks. Dunno if they fixed it though, haven´t played in a while.

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Quoting: vaRPlease, liam, stop the hired guys from posting. Same thing on the forums. This won't work with decent pc specs and is just awful. CDProjekt should be ashamed.

Censoring replies from anybody, unless they behave poorly, would be a really bad thing.

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Quoting: mintguyI forgot to mention that I am using an Optimus setup and tried to play with bumblebee command "primusrun".

Did you try it with optirun?
I sometimes have different results with the two commands.

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I boutht them as soon as I saw. Awesome news. I don't really care about buying the game again because it has a bunch of new features. I can't wait till august.

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Quoting: mintguyPurchased it yesterday evening and downloaded this till today.

This is not working for me. Just crashes and gives crash report... =(

Crash reason: SIGSEGV
Crash address: 0x2a0

I hope they fix the issues pretty fast...

I forgot to mention that I am using an Optimus setup and tried to play with bumblebee command "primusrun".

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I know Intel video cards are not supported, but I'm curious, had anybody tried it with an Intel Iris Pro card?

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Purchased it yesterday evening and downloaded this till today.

This is not working for me. Just crashes and gives crash report... =(

Crash reason: SIGSEGV
Crash address: 0x2a0

I hope they fix the issues pretty fast...

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Details from developer about eON: http://steamcommunity.com/app/20920/discussions/0/522728086957775869/#c522728180901709821

QuoteI wish to note that while I am one of the developers from VP who has worked on this game, I am posting to this forum offering my support entirely on my own time, and of my own volition.

I've been asked to respond about the post concerning "WINE uses Windows drivers and we use Linux drivers". This was a misunderstanding by a non-technical member of VP. He confused WINE with OS X Boot Camp, and has been corrected now

We are aware there's going to be potential rough spots with our port as this is our first big Linux release, but we are looking to improve the technology wherever possible. I've also been authorised to explain a bit further about our eON system, and why this has been used to port Witcher 2 to Linux. So here goes.

eON is a middle ground idea between what WINE does, and a native port. It is tuned and customised to each game we port - we do not simply slap a Windows binary into it and ship the game. For example, we often customise the D3D9->GL code path in various ways to cater for the title. Shaders are often rewritten to native GLSL, etc.

There are various reasons why a 100% native port is not feasible or possible - middleware, financial and technical constraints etc. This does not mean that a non-native port is always going to be inferior. The alternative would often be no port at all.

Personally I am excited that VP are looking to help bring more games to Linux - not just because I get paid to do it!!

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Got this game ages ago in one of steam sales never played. Now I have reason to try this out :)

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Got my copy. At $4 it is really a steal.

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Quoting: KelsHopefully they finally add a FOV slider. I tried watching the first part of a playthrough of it and was nauseous for two hours afterwards. The Steam forum is full of people complaining of motion sickness from it.

Ive heard about this problem from all the way back in the doom days but I still dont understand how fov helps with motion sickness?

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Quoting: c00kie55Installing streaming server on a windows 7 virtual KVM machine with 16gb ram and the AMD r9280 gpu passed throug with newest virtio drivers for both ssddisk and network card instaled the game Rise of the triad had big lags when using host as client. I havent tryed passing throug a dedicated network card to the streaming server or using bridged network so i can use the laptop as clint to the virtual streaming server yet.

A virtual streaming server makes it possible to hide the signal through a diffrent monitor or monitor input source.

This is what I want to use the NVIDIA grid cards for. Run a couple instances of windows with the grid card and stream to the rest of my house (except the desktop). http://www.nvidia.com/object/grid-boards.html

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Quoting: fedsoEvery time I hear an interview where HL3 is hinted I have the sensation it is talked about like if it were an old memory. I'm starting to think too that HL3 is not in the plans anymore, considering also the fact that Valve seems be focused exclusively on multi-player nowadays (where the big money are, looking at Dota2 tournament).

Of course they could also make it a great co-op game. Also if HL3 bridged the gap with portal and included portal like puzzles it could be killer. L4D3, cant wait.

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Quoting: GuestAt least the tutorial works fine here (Arch Linux 64 bit, nvidia GTX 660 2GB, Xfce). It slightly stutters from time to time but nothing bad.

Unfortunately their keymap handling is broken, like in Metro Last Light, and the game thinks my keymap is qwerty when it is in fact bépo, making it hard to know which keys I’m supposed to press.

Edit: I got stuck when the tutorial asked me to press 'Z' to locate the herbs, I pressed the key corresponding to Z on a qwerty or azerty keymap, but nothing happened.

You can actually set the keyboard mapping you want in the options ....

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It's Estonian! Cool...didn't know that...

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I'm not a shooter player, especially not with zombie-shooters. So I don't care too much, I bet a lot of people in the world are waiting for this.

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Quoting: wleoncioI'm running it right now on Ubuntu 13.04.

I'd say my specs are good, but not top-of-the-line: Intel i3 with 6 GB RAM, Geforce GTX 650 (2 GB), Nvidia 331.20 driver.

On 1080x720 resolution, medium graphics run smooth like silk; ultra runs a little bit slower, but still playable unless you're a framerate nut (I'm not, but I think "medium" has a better performance/eye-candy balance). Gamepad (wired Xbox 360) works fine as well.

I use a i7 with a smaller graphics card (nvidia gtx 580) and can only run this game in low settings (properly), since medium is performance whise pretty bad. I don't care much, the game is awesome... i can live with having not-too-good graphics. If I do remember right, I did turn down graphics on Windows to low as well.

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Quoting: liamdaweSeems it's not actually a native app guys. The porting looks like it was done by http://www.vpltd.com/services/ who use "eON" which is a wrapper since they don't need source code access.

Looks like it wraps windows files into a Linux native binary somehow. A bit different to wine, probably somewhere in-between wine and Valve's "togl" library.

As I know it, eON is nothing more than a code-whise abstraction layer between Direct3D and OpenGL mapping the functions. It's not a wrapper but native, and very similar to the "togl" library, just as it seems more feature complete.

Every engine usually includes the abstraction layer for different technologies (OpenGL / Direct3D) itself, and it seems as if this one aims to replace that layer with a library having a full platform independend implementation of Direct3D function calls which makes porting (games) easier. So this is basically very similar to togl, and it is native. Since usually, that abstraction layer is in the engine anyway. The difference for engine developers is that they don't have to care too much for how a function of Direct3D is best implemented in OGL, since that's done by that layer.

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Well, I do like Metro: Last Light, but they should rather have fixed the crashes first (in example the one going out of the drug lab). Then I'd probably go for the Redux version. Not sure about 2033 yet, I don't own it, so I'll probably go for it.

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So happy about it! Has glitches here and there (black-screen when pressing journal and map the same time :D), but restarting the game works again. Great game, so glad they did release for Linux. Even though, I did own it already.

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