Quoting: Guest

Quoting: bubexelWhat about the directx11 implement? i can't wait more!

I would like to see a fully implemented Direct3D9: http://wiki.winehq.org/DirectX-ToDo

Completly agreed

For wine shows actual DX9 state has been past around 5 to 6 years, for DX11 shows mature state maybe needed around 3 years

Without forget native games have more and more importance*, for this reason maybe better idea polish DX9** and before without forget other issues related with input and sound

* This is native games moment and new games*** must be have many possibilities for can be ported

** Because many of this games dont be ported

***Excluding EA and others without interest in linux

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This wine version have mayor improvements present in 1.7.55 like as mouse turnaround issue (case batman games, risen series, ghostbusters, fear 3 and maybe others) also fix partially flickering bug

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Quoting: edddeduckferalThe game needs OpenGL 4.3 and the Open drivers are yet to support it. As compute shaders are key to rendering the entire game if your graphics drivers are missing these features then it won't render correctly. Once the FOSS drivers get 4.3 support then in theory the game should render fine.

Hi and thanks for your work have good titles in linux

Changing theme in feral radar appears depth charge as very soon and point appears rapidly, this title can appears before this month finish????

Almost forget have any chances to see F1 race stars????

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Quoting: ricki42Nice! I had kind of hoped the delay was to add AMD support, though.

Is the best way to buy it still through the Feral store? https://store.feralinteractive.com/en/us/games/alienisolation/

Nope at simple seek system requirements stay equal

http://store.steampowered.com/app/214490


MINIMUM:

OS: Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit, SteamOS
Processor: 2.6GHz Intel i3 or equivalent
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Graphics: Nvidia 6xx series (driver version: 355.11)
Hard Drive: 35 GB available space


RECOMMENDED:

OS: Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit, SteamOS
Processor: 3.2GHz+ Intel i7 Quad Core
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: Nvidia 970 (driver version: 355.11)
Hard Drive: 35 GB available space


Additional Notes: NOTE: AMD and Intel graphics cards are not currently supported by Alien: Isolation.

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In good news nvidia users (most part in market) for comments have good performance only needs launched

Back to amd anyone expect some different respect actual driver situation

However maybe more interesting performance comparative between catalyst vs opensource

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As commented before this wine version have some fixes related c++ and some related issues with xaudio in some games

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Maybe more later add other tests

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Quoting: ElectricPrism@mrdeathjr agreed.

On the other hand if someone is building a Media Center PC with a modest budget I would absolutely recommend the AMD A10 APU Kaveri as someone mentioned earlier in this discussion.

Cores - 12 Compute Cores (4 CPU + 8 GPU)
Operating Frequency - 3.7 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency - 4.0GHz
L2 Cache - 2 x 2MB
Manufacturing Tech - 28nm
Integrated Graphics - AMD Radeon R7 series
Graphics Base Frequency - 720 MHz
Thermal Design Power - 95W

Due to the AMDGPU Kernel Driver which uses the HSA design, it's a real winner for integrated graphics potentially in a Mini ITX or Micro ITX form factor.

I'm presently building 1 more Linux Gaming PC in addition to my other 2, AMD just has gotta get back up and put out goods products and they'll return to their golden age soon :)

Good configuration however main problem of apus still remains: seriously lack of cpu power* caused for change cpu design since bulldozer (2 ALUs - 1 FPU for module) for this reason this cpus not are completly quad core

Quote*For this reason change my Pentium G3220 (in various test pass amd quad core apus, especially fpu is used) for Pentium G3258 + Artic Cooling 11 plus for put 4.1Ghz (around 38% improve over 3.0ghz pentium g3220 frecuency)

In my case use mainly wine (only supports vanilla or git stefan dosinger for special cases like as csmt), eon ports and some emulation, in this topics cpu have huge boost


Abyss Odyssey have huge boost with csmt like other cases as zombi or rise of the triad

Vanilla on Pentium G3220 3.0Ghz (around 30 to 33fps)

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Vanilla on Pentium G3258 at 4.1Ghz (around 40fps to 45fps*)

View video on youtube.com

CSMT (git stefan dosinger) on Pentium G3258 at 4.1Ghz (around 57 to 62fps)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG-QRAGV7ZM


In other cases boost is more moderate case mirrors edge, bulletstorm, dead rising 2 and others


However various titles with csmt not up performance, in various cases loss fps performance like as saboteur, test drive unlimited 2, farcry 3 and others

The Saboteur

CSMT (git stefan dosinger)

View video on youtube.com

Vanilla

View video on youtube.com

*However frecuency boost in pentium g3258 is most notorious for all games

Resuming act like as dual core when FPU is used and acting like as quad core when ALU is used, However many apps needs strong fpu performance

Phenom Arquitecture (Monolithic) dont have this problems because them have 1 FPU+1 ALU for core without forget this can allow tri core cpus with 1 fpu for core

Without forget very slow cache memory (L2,L3) compared to intel, normally L2 have minor latency than L3 but in L2 in AMD is more slow than L3 on Intel cpus and lower ipc per cicle

Hopefullly zen shows true improvements in before situations described

For highlight gpu hardware are very good, only needs good drivers

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Quoting: ElectricPrismSo far I gather from all this that people have their magnifying glasses out and are trying to put AMD, nVidia, Intel & Developers under a microscope to understand exactly why AMD Cards aren't selling well and how this will effect the future market landscape of PC Gaming Video Cards.

In my opinion those that are saying that AMD cards simply fail to deliver in performance and stability are painfully correct. This can be dissected to reveal AMD's Linux Drivers are said to be cumbersome & nonperformance. If you really wanna split a hair and dissect the situation further you can say that game developers producing butchered code makes unstable and nonperformance problem worse by making AMD Hardware do less than it was designed to do. (You'd be at least partially correct that that element is co-morbid to other primary issues.)

I think in the case of Alien Isolation it's safe to say that Ferrel Interactive probably had a discussion that went something like this

QuoteFI: "The base package is $80,000-$120,000 which includes a estimated X hours towards the port project."

FI: "This will get you nVidia support which covers about 70-80% of the market"

FI: "AMD & Intel optimizations will cost an extra $10,000 - $20,000 depending on the complexities which our team is ready to do if you'd like, however the market share is only 20% of gamers as of present."

Client: "Lets just start with the base package and if / when we need to add AMD support. We'll tackle that later after we get a better idea of the return on this investment."
FI: "You got it - 2 developers will begin the project as soon as we get payment."
[Client hands Ferrel Interactive $100,000 check]

I just bought a second nVidia GTX 970 for my other Steam Linux Rig - you know why?

1 ) It's stable, 2 ) I expect the 9xx series to be supported fully by nVidia as it'll launch with SteamOS 3 ) I don't wanna d1ck around fixing my GPU or hacking my games to work properly when Linux already requires high maintenance, 4 ) When a Windows Gamer tries to bash on Linux I can instantly make Linux look super bad-ass because of being built with bad-ass gaming hardware & running a 4k monitor with it. (No I'm not a nvidia fanboy or whatever, I just choose the best, and maybe some Linux people would dump Linux if they could afford to get Apples, but I for one use Linux because it's technically superior to OSX and Windows, not because its the economical choice.)

If AMD was further along in the race and had their driver at a more stable & reliable state I would have happily thrown my $800 into their bank account as I love to support the underdog. Hopefully, my next upgrade cycle will be AMD (2x Linux).

Hopefully my Client (1x Linux) & Family's (3x Linux) gaming systems will be AMD (upgrading in 12 months). If AMD proves themselves worthy, they will be selected.

Time and again for the last 3 years I've contacted AMD's support pleading for better Linux drivers and after going through a 30 question contact form that was more difficult and cumbersome to fill out than a job application - I don't even recall getting a reply.

Their overly complicated contact form was simply a symptom of major infrastructure issues which is now evident by their financial crisis & bad market consumer opinions.

In fact, I hypothesize their recent chip maker leaving may have been contributed to by the infrastructure and internal politic issues of the company.

I just hope in 12 months the future is bright, we all have to vote with our wallets by buying steam games and video cards to make Linux & SteamOS succeed.

Yes AMD have make many errors like as you said performance, stability, support launch day, performance/watt relation is lower

And you said too amd have tiny part of market if only count catalyst as supported then amd only have around 8% of market meanwhile nvidia have around 80% of market

For this reason main objective is games run on nvidia because them have most potential buyers compared to amd

However intel must be stay in better form (them must be have now complete support for opengl 4.5 and below) because them have much much resources maybe than nvidia and amd united

In my case use nvidia for similar motives: compatibility, performance, stability, support, low consume and dont need lastest kernel/llvm compiler*

*This point is very complicated because them are critical system components, maybe next year amd stabilize this situation

Hopefully amd shows good new cards and drivers next year and improve issues on existent game catalog

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Quoting: FredO

Quoting: ricki42Could you quote their exact words on that? Don't know if you're allowed to...

I think for Feral it's simply a matter of what makes financial sense. If you look at the GOL surveys, more than 70% of folks here use nvidia+prop. drivers. About 17% use AMD GPUs, but that's in turn pretty much evenly split between open-source and prop. driver. So you have <10% on Catalyst. This situation isn't Feral's fault, but they are faced with it and have to make the best of it.

It sucks though, because it's a vicious cycle that leads to a monopoly. It's not just on Linux, nvidia has a similar lead on Windows, and basically for the same reasons: unreliable driver support on AMD.

When the latest nvidia cards came out, new Linux drivers were available day-1, when AMD released Fury, it took several weeks (don't remember exactly, I checked some time after release and couldn't find drivers, checked phoronix, but I don't know how reliable that is).

I'm not happy with this situation either, but Feral's lack of AMD support isn't the cause, it's a symptom. I think you're barking up the wrong tree.

Agreed. Aspyr don't officially support AMD with their Borderlands ports - so is that their lack of skills and effort? VP's ports nearly all run badly on my AMD machine, and sometimes with missing textures too - but do we only blame VP? How can these 3 porting companies all have trouble with AMD, and yet all their games work without problems on my Nvidia machine. AMD is the common factor here, so where does the problem really lie?

Is logical amd users are so tiny part of market* if count only catalyst users are supported, stay around 8% compared with nvidia stay around 80% of market

*And this situation is all fault amd for leave grow nvidia until this instance, maybe if amd put more resources in linux some time ago this situation can be different but when you have tiny part of market is very difficult impulse new standard

Maybe next year with new gpu 14/16nm, amd can show good watts/performance cards for try reverse this situation for example: radeon r270 performance level card but consume 60-65w must be hit in sales

Hopefully amd can improve drivers for radeon r400 appears in market, around middle of 2016

In this point most users have nvidia because games works (ideological reasons dont care)

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Yeah very good mark of coolers and your alpine 64 rev 2 have very good specs

Diameter
92 mm
Fan Speed:
500 - 2,000 RPM (Controlled by PWM)
Airflow:
45 CFM / 77 m³/h
Noise Level:
0.4 Sone @ 2,000 RPM
Current / Voltage:
0.16 A / +12V DC


In my case stay busy with my new cpu and alpine 11 plus, this is specs

Diameter:
92 mm
Fan Speed:
500 - 2,000 RPM (Controlled by PWM)
Noise Level:
0.4 Sone
Current / Voltage:
0.16 A / +12 V DC
Airflow
74 CFM / 125.7 m³/h


Some images












With Prime95




Comparing stock cooler vs artic 11 plus






For now stay very busy testing wine 1.7.51 and 1.7.51 csmt git stefandosinger


Update for example in zombi with wine


Wine on Intel Pentium G3220 at 3.0Ghz Stock

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Wine on Intel Pentium G3258 at 4.1Ghz + Artic Cooling Alpine 11 Plus

View video on youtube.com


Wine CSMT (stefan dosiger git) on Intel Pentium G3258 at 4.1Ghz + Artic Cooling Alpine 11 Plus

View video on youtube.com


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