Quoting: finaldestThe only exception being PC gaming as its simply impossible to buy games physically so I am sticking with Steam and maybe GOG in future if they ever give linux 1st class support.

gog is actually better than physical, you can have as many backups as you want, good luck riping your games that you have on physical media for other platforms, few people have the know how / tools to do that.

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Quote(look at the mess of Pokémon streaming) and never owning a damn thing.

its not so bad, you just have to pirate it all because the licenced version have the 4kids/tpci changes that destroyed a good chunk of the anime anyway, with things like sound track replacement and etc.
other than that you can get almost everything with just netflix and prime as far as i understood, then you get a few more with youtube and might need hoopla for some movies.

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they need to be confortable with not owning our money

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Quoting: TheRiddickApparently is FULL of cheaters/hackers.

Also it has a coin shop which I'd hope is only cosmetics but wouldn't be surprised if there is a pay2win element. Either way cheaters ruin games such as this where everyone expects to be playing on a more or less level playing field, but ultimately aren't due to ineffective anti-cheating methods.

Wouldn't be surprised if they implement kernel level DRM (blocking Linux) in hopes to stop cheating (it won't).

The only way to stop cheating is custom design anti-cheat into their OWN server and client code, relying on generic third party tools only cuts out the MOST laziest of cheaters!

i think the best solution against cheaters is not to ban then, but to put then to play against each other or bots that pretend to be real people using cheats.
they will swallow their own poison and learn the best way how anoying it is to destroy other people fun.

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another thing i hope happens in the future is that we get an "big picture" ish interface to launch godot games and that a lot of games start using custom godot logo just like in the n64 days
n64
godot

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i hope that suika developers make it compatible with it, it will be the first app i install on it
https://ferdyslab.itch.io/suika-combination

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Quoting: dpanterBleh, guess I didn't have enough fingers. Concerned this might hurt the Linux gaming handheld scene instead. I didn't trust Ayaneo before, things like this sure don't help and I definitely don't trust their ability to maintain a fringe spin of a fringe distro.
What will they do when issues start happening? Tell people to install Windows instead?

its even worse if the hardware is crap and they dont tell people to install windows, because people might think linux/steamOS is the issue, since its not an well know OS.
when people had an poor experience with netbooks due to windows being crap on it, the netbook form factor suffered instead of windows, because people know that windows performs well in stronger machines.
if this hardware is crap and people have an bad experience with linux on it and dont try installing windows on the same machine they might think linux is trash...

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people asked about licencing cost...
so long as developing proton is more expensive than developing their own linux distro, i dont see why valve would charge for anything, the biggest the marketshare the more advantage for then.

once they got enough marketshare and some kind of exclusive features appear on their OS and developer actually use those features, they might consider charging for their OS.

speaking of charging, i wonder if microsoft always charge for licence sold (per unit sold) of windows, or if they share the cost of development of their operating system with other companies, as well as share the profits.

i mean, if you want to make your own hardware to sell, and you have to integrate with windows, but you cant access the windows source code and have to wait for microsoft to test and aprove your experimental drivers while you are still prototyping the hardware, you are screwed, i doubt microsoft work in that fashion with big companies, it probably is more like "co developed with intel", that said, smaller companies like aya have no hope of ever having access to something like the windows source code to have an better integration of their hardware to the inner core of windows, that is, if they need an feature that require such deep levels of integration, like, i dont know, an custom instruction set for fast video decoding with low power consumption... or more likely something like an gamepad with more axis and buttons, linux provide then with the advantage of being able to add new features as they want without asking for permission to do anything or having to reveal their plans, but if they chose steamOS instead of an in-house distro, either valve provided then with everything they needed or they havent needed anything custom...
still that is something to consider when we talk about other vendors.

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Quoting: Pengling

Quoting: StoneColdSpiderKind of spooky..... We were just talking about something like this the other day........

Now let's see how much else of what we discussed shows up here.

Quoting: MohandevirLow cost, entry level handheld with SteamOS... Direct competitor to the Steam Deck... I was expecting a high end SteamOS based handheld... Would have made more sense, imo. Unless they aim to sell it where the Steam Deck is unavailable?

I'll be surprised if they are able to match the Steam Deck price brackets.

The high-end SteamOS handheld is the Steam Deck. Really, though, this makes perfect sense, but only assuming it's as low-cost as the literature so far implies.

The "Blue Ocean Strategy" has a term for this, and it's how all market disruption starts: "Crappy products for crappy customers.". That's not crappy as in low-quality, but rather "crappy" as in the big players in the market rejected them and refuse to cater to them even though there's a ready-made market just waiting to hand over their money (the fact that Linux gaming recently overtook Mac gaming, but we're still seeing companies refusing to support Linux whilst making large concessions for MacOS also plays into this).

The lack of certain features isn't a problem, either, for that reason - in fact, some more "Lite" options are likely to help adoption (as well as hopefully cover regions where the Steam Deck is not yet available).

in other words, companies like valve target the most profitable markets, while smaller companies target the markets that valve isnt interessed yet...

it makes me think if valve money isnt involved here, like if they purchase actions in the stock market and are using it to test the waters, with an smaller brand that wont hurt they reputation if it fails (like white labeling it)

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Quoting: fenglengshunThis is good. I wouldn't mind people favoring ROG or Lenovo Go had they run Linux. I just want them to run Linux to push adoption, don't really care what the teams are winning as long as team Linux won.

Gives me hope we'll see more Linux desktop releases. Wouldn't be a surprise for some SKUs for less economic country to put Linux to save money - in Indonesia, there was a time they shipped Linux by default to save money with expectation user will go to a shop to install Windows or have someone to do it for them.

Brasil had the same thing, the employees who sold the computer often ofered to install windows (pirated) on it if i remember correctly...

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