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Quoting: pete910Yeah, because giga bit fibre so common where I am (UK) .....

You're also comparing a MMO to a single player.

Internet speed will play a part obviously, I would except it been a speed issue if it was saturating my connection which it wasn't , not even half. Not tried doom eternal I will give that a go later being a single player game that may hold up better.

Please try D2 for a comparison with doom.

I have played Destiny 2 I just don't play the game as its not fun IMHO (How Bungie made this and Halo I'll never understand). It's completely playable. I will admit while playing with the Stadia controller Aim felt "floaty" but I adjusted to it and its more than playable. No such issue with KB/Mouse. I don't play FPS/Competitive games with a controller. My attempts at the crucible with the controller were laughable.

I also hopped into Serious Sam multiplayer and had no issues winning matches after adjusting to the controller.

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Quoting: drlambThere are a lot of variables that contribute to one's experiences. 1000Mbps Up/Down Fiber here for context.

That's all the context I need to not bother reading about your experience! That's... not normal. I consider myself very lucky to have a Virgin fibre connection - 100Mb down and 20Mb. That's usually about 9Mb/sec downloads and 2Mb/sec uploads. Usually plenty and way faster than any of the older ADSL connections out there, which make up the vast majority of rural UK.

You have a connection that's typically 11 times faster at downloads, and roughtly 50 times faster for uploads. Lucky you!

For reference I can play perfectly fine on a crap laptop, with Ubuntu on wireless where it gets about 30-50mbps. It doesn't need a super fast connection, that mainly helps for 4K.

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Quoting: Guest-- ha, nevermind, just opened up. And....wow, such input lag! The "framerate" was fine, but there's simply no possible way to play any game with that kind of input lag.

Quoting: pete910I would'nt bother, it's shit for FPS like I expected, it's worse than a damn console !


Just tried D2 , it's shocking the lag and not just input either.

Credits where it's due for what they've managed but sorry, despite what some will tell you it's a loooooooooong way of for first person shooters. I deal for things like Stellaris ect.

There are a lot of variables that contribute to one's experiences. 1000Mbps Up/Down Fiber here for context.

I don't play D2 on Stadia but I've had no issues playing through Doom Eternal on Nightmare (Turn off view smoothing). It's entirely playable and nowhere near "shit." I can tell it's not local but everyone else I've shown stadia to hasn't been able to tell when I just hand them a controller and say "play."


I've enjoyed playing Metro Exodus, Red Dead Redemption 2, and Doom all on Stadia during the recent lock down. I'll continue to use Stadia until it no longer provides me access to games I otherwise wouldn't be able to play.


My thoughts on Stadia from here:

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I will likely renew my Pro subscription. While I remain a hardware enthusiast there are some games that I want to play that aren't available for my platform (Desktop Linux) that are available for Stadia.

Take Metro Exodus for example. We have yet to see if we'll get a Linux binary release on Steam next Saturday. I've previously praised 4A games for releasing the previous Metro games and their remasters on Linux but now it remains to be seen if Exodus will follow suit. I wonder what effect Epic's meddling had on those chances. Either way, I'm able to avoid the controversy and enjoy the game on Stadia (after Cranking the controller sensitivity).

Another example is Red Dead Redemption II. If I wanted to play this game in 2020 my options are: PS4/Xbox/Windows and Stadia. I don't own a console and I don't use Windows. Dual booting Windows for a game is not optimal and it's clear Rockstar doesn't care about desktop Linux judging by the proton reports. Hypothetically I could use another service like Geforce Now (RDR2 isn't on GFN) but those services don't appeal to me at all. I don't use Windows at home or work for a reason. Why would I want to rent a Windows instance in the cloud? That's aside for my views of Nvidia and their support of Open Source.

It feels like Google took Valve's initial effort of the Steam Machine and foundational mesa/vulkan work and narrowed its scope to a single AMD SKU and paired it with with some interesting technology...and Google's advertising money.

I imagine the Witcher 3 would have released for Stadia had it been around at the time, see Cyberpunk 2077. Desktop Linux isn't an attractive target, Google's shiny new thing is. We've already seen AAA titles release for Stadia that aren't available via steam. (NBA2K20, Metro Exodus, Destiny 2, Red Dead Redemption, Trials Rising, Thumper, Monster Motocross, Ghost Recon, Attack on Titan 2, Rage 2, Borderlands 3, Assassins Creed Odyssey, Dragon Ball Z, Darksiders Genesis, Final Fantasy, Football Manager (Developers have stated desktop Linux isn't attractive/worth it), Just Dance, Mortal Combat, Wolfenstein: Young blood ).

I wish Valve would advertise the hell out of the Steam Linux runtime and perhaps incentivize developers to bring their Stadia releases to Steam, should Google allow it. I'd croak if Google/Valve announced a steam native/proton supported partnership for certain games. Either way, Steam remains my platform of choice but I cannot help but feel some solace in supporting a platform (Stadia) that also helps move Linux gaming forward, further proving its viability as a gaming platform. Stadia works. Game Streaming Works. Linux Gaming Works.


Native Linux Release > Supported Proton Release > Stadia > Unsupported/Non-legal tweaks

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As for my experiences with Stadia it's been a dream. I'm not able to enjoy 4K HDR gaming on my desktop pc in the other room running Linux but yet I'm able to in my bedroom via just a Chromecast ultra and a controller. Magic.

I'll gladly continue to accept the games Google gives away and only buy games that Interest me that I cannot play on another platform.

Games I've purchased on Stadia:

Red Dead Redemption 2
Trials Rising (Good Stupid Fun)



That being said I'm not blind to the shortcomings. It's a game by game basis but crossplay makes or breaks a game to me. I'd love to play borderlands 3 with my brother but that's currently not possible as his internet isn't strong enough for Stadia and cross play isn't supported in that game. Come on gearbox.

Edit: What will be especially disheartening is seeing previously supported Linux titles come "back" to Stadia. Rust and Rocket League come to mind as two possibilities.

Quoting: scaine

Quoting: drlambThere are a lot of variables that contribute to one's experiences. 1000Mbps Up/Down Fiber here for context.

That's all the context I need to not bother reading about your experience! That's... not normal. I consider myself very lucky to have a Virgin fibre connection - 100Mb down and 20Mb. That's usually about 9Mb/sec downloads and 2Mb/sec uploads. Usually plenty and way faster than any of the older ADSL connections out there, which make up the vast majority of rural UK.

You have a connection that's typically 11 times faster at downloads, and roughtly 50 times faster for uploads. Lucky you!

Quoting: ShmerlWhy is it not compatible with Firefox?

Quoting: KimyrielleThey already have two of their games on Linux. So they know -exactly- how much of their audience is using Linux. Based on these numbers, it should be straightforward to make the platform decision right here and now. To me, this reeks like "Eh, we're basically decided not to bring this game to Linux, but nothing wrong with creating false hope, so Linux players get hooked to it anyway!"

Quoting: KimyrielleMaybe I am wrong and/or just bitter, after one too many broken promises. But these days I don't trust any game to come Linux until the day they release the port.

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Quoting: pete910Well it does have profiles for a few including the warthog, You can set customise buttons fine however, Trying to change axis like rudder ect does not work at all.

No idea as to why.

What axes are you trying to change? Can you describe them in detail? I wil try to reproduce here.

Notice that if you have a HOTAS kit that has more than one device plugged to the computer, you must inform them in the input device configuration. I do that because I use my G29 pedals along with the X52.

Any of the analogue axis that wont bind.

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If you go into the settings and delete say throttle then try to rebind it to a different axis it fails.

It works fine as the profile is set as.

Worked fine here. Now, again, did your register all your HOTAS devices in the game? You have to get to settings, "Manage Controllers/Joysticks", then configure the devices you will be using. Like that:

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If you don't register your devices there, they won't be detected when assigning the controls. Might be that what's happening.

Yes, That's the first thing I did. I have the GOG version not steam too . Not that should make a difference mind.

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I don't have my Steam controler plugged in either.

I don't know what else to say or suggest. I'm stumped. Here it works, it worked when I had the Warthog, the only problem I had was in a beta where the input from the HOTAS would incessantly make the arming screen be flickering in-game, but that was resolved. I wish I could help you. Have you reported your problem in the egosoft forums?

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Quoting: pete910Well it does have profiles for a few including the warthog, You can set customise buttons fine however, Trying to change axis like rudder ect does not work at all.

No idea as to why.

What axes are you trying to change? Can you describe them in detail? I wil try to reproduce here.

Notice that if you have a HOTAS kit that has more than one device plugged to the computer, you must inform them in the input device configuration. I do that because I use my G29 pedals along with the X52.

Any of the analogue axis that wont bind.

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If you go into the settings and delete say throttle then try to rebind it to a different axis it fails.

It works fine as the profile is set as.

Worked fine here. Now, again, did your register all your HOTAS devices in the game? You have to get to settings, "Manage Controllers/Joysticks", then configure the devices you will be using. Like that:

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If you don't register your devices there, they won't be detected when assigning the controls. Might be that what's happening.