Quoting: "Chuck, post: 4157"Also, how will the Steam client handle games that are not ported to Linux? Would it use its own wine-wrapper or simply gray them out?

I would assume it would simply be like the Mac version. Why do people think on Linux you naturally would think about looking at Wine?

Quoting: "Chuck, post: 4157"I know a lot of the true hardcore open-source zealots will essentially bash Steam on Linux, but for gamers and for those of us who don't feel so strongly about certain aspects of GNU/Linux, if this actually happens I think it could only mean good things. Hopefully it will at least motivate hardware manufacturers to write better, more complete drivers.

Okay, first, opening with such wonderful phrases as "open-source zealots" is part of the reason why the tone on the Phoronix Forums (for instance) often goes down the tubes. You are going to have to accept that when you are on a system that was built on a lot of ideals, for some strange reason people are going to feel strongly about it, and they are often going to have worked with the platform a lot longer than you have. So give them a little respect, okay?

Now, we are not necessarily saying this a bad thing. But for those of us who already love Linux and already do enjoy gaming on Linux, we do not want to lose what we already have just in the name of potential future growth. We are not against the growth, or are ourselves in favour of anything else contained in many of allegations that are often hurled against such sentiments. We simply want to make sure it does not hurt what we care about, and why we became interested in the first place.

I am not trying to be aggressive or aggravating - but I have seen things happen like this before and I want people to know that it could happen here too.

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Actually a fairly fair assessment by Alex there. I am only really interested in the port of the Source engine and games. I am a bit leery of Steam itself.

And it is true that Valve has (not entirely deliberately) hurt things I care about by overshadowing things in the past. That was one of the reasons that, even when I was stuck on Windows, I never played their games. I was waiting for Valve to do something for me first.

So we will wait and see if that time has come. Sorry if we are getting any of you people down. ;)

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Assuming this is true, I think what is more likely is for companies that previously did support us, such as Croteam and the people behind Red Orchestra, will come back on board once again. They have basically already stated their only real issue (though never forget the power to find other excuses...) is the fact there is no Steam for Linux.

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I played the demo once and was actually not that impressed. Still, it has been updated since then.

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Mostly just old games that were included before, as well as a film. Not the most impressive bundle ever done.

Can't they try and get new developers?

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Quoting: "Cheeseness, post: 4058, member: 122"Bumadar, do you have a source for Basilisk's negative experiences that you can share?

Actually, it is me who had posted about that. Here are some quotes:

QuoteMany of you may also remember our efforts earlier this year to get Humble Bundle to give us a spot. We are still trying to convince them that we'd be a great addition, so don't be afraid to send them an email to let them know you want to see us included in the next bundle.

http://www.basiliskgames.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5363

QuoteI'll say it again: keep pestering the Humble people!! We'd love to be part of the next Bundle and we'll put in some cool extras. We just need to convince them.

http://www.basiliskgames.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=41230#p41230

All of this being patently bizarre, since these are well thought out, high production, genuinely Indie games that have exceptional cross-platform support. The fact they have had to beg their case to even consider getting the nod seems kind of insulting.

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I do think we are moving a bit beyond Humble Bundle at this point... though we should not get ahead of ourselves. We still have a lot to prove.

However, the Humble Bundles are no longer what they were a year ago. They are definitely not the only game in town. And, as Alex has said, they do seem to be getting kind of narrow minded lately. I learned recently that Basilisk Games has been having the same troubles that Kot-in-Action Creative Artel did in trying to get the Bundle guys to put their games in a bundle and to take them seriously. This is happening despite the fact that (and lets be honest) they have taken on some rather stupid ideas when it is Jeffery Rosen's friends that were behind it.

And it is true that if we are going to grow we need to expand beyond the bundles. And we are doing that. There are all those titles that Cheeseness mentioned, as well as some he did not including Deep Black: Reloaded, Depth Hunter, Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs, and other less flashy entrants. We just need to keep the mommentum going.

The Bundles are still a large part of that of course. But I am happy for the diversity. :)

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Yeah, best of luck to Nekro. They will port to Linux no matter what though, but they still deserve the money if you can spare.

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Posted on the Trine 2 Desura profile:

QuoteHi guys, Joel from Frozenbyte here, sorry for the little delay. A few answers to popular questions:

1) Yes we will have Desura keys in our own store (soonish)

2) There will be a Linux demo but not sure on the timeframe (probably around the same time as we go from 'beta' to proper release, so in a few weeks/ a couple of months)

3) There will be a Windows standalone demo too, probably around the same time as our DRM free (i.e. non-Steam) release which will then be included here on Desura as well

4) There may be an x64 Linux version in the future, one of the main things holding this back is the fact that some of the middleware we use does not have x64 available, so our hands are a little bit tied with that. We may find a way to go around this though, but I can't make any promises at the moment.

opossums, please get in touch and we can sort that out - Frozenbyte.com

I hope this helps, and thanks a lot for supporting us. :)

Best,
Joel
Frozenbyte

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It is something they want to do, yes:
http://frozenbyte.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=18864&sid=a338e64073c903c0e5aba2286f6eda6f#p18864

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