I'd say this real time ray tracing is indeed more of a marketing thing now, because it just doesn't work well without upscaling. Once we'll get to the point of it working with native resolution with good framerate, then it will be really useful.

It's the reason I'm not using it yet. Experimenting with it is fun, but practically it's not there yet.

On a side note, temporal antialiasing doesn't need to be tied to upscaling. Just becasue DLSS / FSR do it, doesn't mean one depends on the other. I.e. games can as well implement temporal antialiasing on native resolution if they wanted.

For FSR to be more useful, it should offer it on 100% resolution as well (no upscaling at all).

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Managed to make CP2077 work with ray tracing without hangs thanks to help from vkd3d-proton developers. It was just an unusual prefix mess up with Wine-staging at some point dropping an invalid nvapi64.dll in there that messes up CP2077 on AMD.

Performance of ray tracing is still not usable without upscaling even on 7900 XTX, but at least it's a fun experiment.

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By the way, what does "variable refresh rate - sometimes" choice mean? Multiple monitors where some have it and some don't?

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Quoting: F.UltraAs absurd as it might sound, 8GB is really holding the nVidia cards back: 16GB vs. 8GB VRAM: Radeon RX 6800 vs. GeForce RTX 3070, 2023 Revisit

It's not really absurd if you take into account that something like browser takes VRAM too. And common use case shares games with regular desktop operation. So 8 GB VRAM is getting old indeed.

I just checked. Just regular KDE session with Firefox opened takes already 1.5 - 2 GB of VRAM. And that's not the limit.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyHmmm . . . that looks like a 15% increase in about a year and a half. So say 10%/year. At that rate it would get to almost half in two more years, over half in 3 years. But I suspect that although the progression is pretty even in the graph, the line is really quite straight, it will probably start curving up at some point as various distros decide Wayland is good enough.

Sounds right. It probably would accelerate once some major pieces will be improved and there would be less reasons to use X11.

And as I also added above, one of the factors is the GPU. Nvidia blob is the drag on Wayland usage due to it causing poor experience on it. But the trend for Nvidia is negative as you can see on the same page, so that will speed things up for Wayland adoption.

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Quoting: Jarmeryes exactly. The big question is "when" - I think I've been hearing some version of this exact same statement for years now.

If you mean when for Wine itself - hopefully later this year. Once they merge all major pieces it will be possible to test and they'll probably focus on bugs that will be reported once more people will start using it.

If you mean when Wayland itself will be used more widely - you can check the trend in GOL stats for example.

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/index.php?module=statistics&view=trends#SessionType-top

You can probably correlate that trend with the growing trend of AMD GPUs usage, since experience with Nvidia on Wayland is worse.

Personally I've been using KDE Wayland session for a while already and it works well including for gaming.

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Just a suggestion may be to make these stats posts shortly after stats page is updated for the month. Which happens now in reverse, so it's not as aligned to discuss trends since people move on to newer articles.

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If it's about price points, may be they should have options for screens same as they have options for storage?

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I think a good upgrade would be adaptive sync and higher refresh rate than 60 Hz. It may be even more valuable than higher resolution. Using tearing as a way to reduce latency isn't really a good solution and latency is a concern for some gamers.

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Quoting: pete910The quicker they go full Vulkan and native client the better !

Not that the latter is ever going to happen

Weren't they supposedly very close to it already (i.e. Vulkan support)? Did you see any recent updates on it?

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