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Vote For GOG To Make Galaxy Open Source
17 July 2014 at 4:19 pm UTC
And the problem with that is? I don't see any. Or you worry that for example e-mail clients are fragmented?
17 July 2014 at 4:19 pm UTC
Quoting: edoIn not sure if its a good idea,if they do that, there are going to be a lot of unnecessary forks and fragmentation, just the same issue than exist actually with the free software.
And the problem with that is? I don't see any. Or you worry that for example e-mail clients are fragmented?
Vote For GOG To Make Galaxy Open Source
17 July 2014 at 1:16 am UTC Likes: 1
That's simple actually. Desura didn't work on it directly, and community was too small to develop it on par with the official client. If GOG will open theirs to begin with, they'll make sure that it works properly.
17 July 2014 at 1:16 am UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: GuestDesura open source client never seemed to work much better than the official one... but I guess being open source can never hurt.
That's simple actually. Desura didn't work on it directly, and community was too small to develop it on par with the official client. If GOG will open theirs to begin with, they'll make sure that it works properly.
Vote For GOG To Make Galaxy Open Source
16 July 2014 at 9:58 pm UTC
16 July 2014 at 9:58 pm UTC
Firstly, open source can be used commercially and is used. Does it work always? Not necessarily.
Secondly, GOG's business is not impacted by them opening the client, because they don't sell it, they sell their service which only benefits from improvements in the client which can happen if it's opened. If it has a proper license, competitors will have to open their own additions to the client, so GOG is free to reuse that. That's even an upside really.
Secondly, GOG's business is not impacted by them opening the client, because they don't sell it, they sell their service which only benefits from improvements in the client which can happen if it's opened. If it has a proper license, competitors will have to open their own additions to the client, so GOG is free to reuse that. That's even an upside really.
Vote For GOG To Make Galaxy Open Source
16 July 2014 at 9:48 pm UTC
That's a pretty empty downside. GOG doesn't sell their client, they sell their service.
That's nonsense. Open doesn't mean it can't be commercially used to make money. Or I guess RedHat and others just get money from thin air.
In gaming context, that can be more interesting though. For example you can't use most business models like support and etc. Games work on hard sales. So making the game fully open makes it hard to sell. For that one can make the engine open and artistic assets closed.
Anyway, in GOG's case they aren't selling their client.
16 July 2014 at 9:48 pm UTC
Quoting: alcaldeThe obvious downside: some other gaming store uses the open source client. Now their competition benefits from GOG's effort.
That's a pretty empty downside. GOG doesn't sell their client, they sell their service.
Quoting: alcaldeIf everything were open there'd be no money to be made in programming anymore.
That's nonsense. Open doesn't mean it can't be commercially used to make money. Or I guess RedHat and others just get money from thin air.
In gaming context, that can be more interesting though. For example you can't use most business models like support and etc. Games work on hard sales. So making the game fully open makes it hard to sell. For that one can make the engine open and artistic assets closed.
Anyway, in GOG's case they aren't selling their client.
Vote For GOG To Make Galaxy Open Source
16 July 2014 at 9:19 pm UTC
16 July 2014 at 9:19 pm UTC
Hehe, so that boils down to having "something to hide"? That's exactly the point of this request. To gain trust, such things shouldn't be hidden. There is nothing wrong with preventing cheats or gathering stats, and why should it mandate closed clients? Authentication can be performed using open ones. Say for example you don't claim that you can't use an open browser to make a transaction with your bank, because you can cheat?
Vote For GOG To Make Galaxy Open Source
16 July 2014 at 8:36 pm UTC
16 July 2014 at 8:36 pm UTC
For example if GOG open the client, they'll have to deal with bug reports, pull requests (i.e. features and fixes requested to be added to the code) and so on. While normally that's very useful, to actually handle all that, GOG will have to allocate resources (i.e. people, time etc.). I'd say it's worth doing, but GOG can think it's just an extra burden.
Vote For GOG To Make Galaxy Open Source
16 July 2014 at 8:28 pm UTC
16 July 2014 at 8:28 pm UTC
I think more than governance, the overhead of running the open source project can be an issue, especially if GOG never did it before.
So, even if GOG can't open source the client, they can document the protocol:
https://secure.gog.com/wishlist/site/document_the_protocol_and_api_of_the_galaxy_updater_client_to_enable_community_alternatives
That for sure shouldn't have any blockers.
So, even if GOG can't open source the client, they can document the protocol:
https://secure.gog.com/wishlist/site/document_the_protocol_and_api_of_the_galaxy_updater_client_to_enable_community_alternatives
That for sure shouldn't have any blockers.
Vote For GOG To Make Galaxy Open Source
16 July 2014 at 7:54 pm UTC Likes: 1
Ah, that's a completely different topic, unrelated to the discussion above which is about convincing GOG to open their own client.
And just to clarify - you are wrong. Gamers are already using GOG's Galaxy. For example for the Witcher adventure game.
16 July 2014 at 7:54 pm UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: ZeloxWhat I'm trying to say here is, I dont think gamers will use the GOG client. I dont really see a point in it myself.
Ah, that's a completely different topic, unrelated to the discussion above which is about convincing GOG to open their own client.
And just to clarify - you are wrong. Gamers are already using GOG's Galaxy. For example for the Witcher adventure game.
Vote For GOG To Make Galaxy Open Source
16 July 2014 at 7:45 pm UTC Likes: 3
I don't understand really what you mean. What does Valve have to do with GOG opening or not opening their client?
16 July 2014 at 7:45 pm UTC Likes: 3
Quoting: ZeloxCause valve is to big :P.
I don't understand really what you mean. What does Valve have to do with GOG opening or not opening their client?
Vote For GOG To Make Galaxy Open Source
16 July 2014 at 7:33 pm UTC Likes: 3
From the GOG perspective, there is a very obvious point - trust (as explained in the GOG wishlist item and on the forum. Just open and read the explanation). Open code can be audited externally (it doesn't mean it always is, but it can be).
16 July 2014 at 7:33 pm UTC Likes: 3
Quoting: BillNyeTheBlackGuyI just don't see the point. Not every program needs to be open.
From the GOG perspective, there is a very obvious point - trust (as explained in the GOG wishlist item and on the forum. Just open and read the explanation). Open code can be audited externally (it doesn't mean it always is, but it can be).
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