So it seems Valve is doing another pre-closed Steam Linux Beta push on their end with the official "group" now open on the Steam website.
There is also a Linux Beta Access group now on Steam which actually states to the side of it "Official Group" by the join button.
Also to note is that the Steam For Linux CDR is now up as well to further give evidence that it really is imminent!
This isn't without it's controversies though as people are flocking to the official groups forum to complain about things such as "It's GNU/Linux not Linux" and "Why do you hate freedom?". We have seen this before across the web but now it's all over their official website group.
So...do you hate your freedom? I sure do, my freedom to have spare time that is, bring on the games! You all by now know my views (some of you strongly disagree), I personally Love Steam and have never ever had a problem with it.
So now it really is almost here, what are your views? Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
There is also a Linux Beta Access group now on Steam which actually states to the side of it "Official Group" by the join button.
Also to note is that the Steam For Linux CDR is now up as well to further give evidence that it really is imminent!
This isn't without it's controversies though as people are flocking to the official groups forum to complain about things such as "It's GNU/Linux not Linux" and "Why do you hate freedom?". We have seen this before across the web but now it's all over their official website group.
So...do you hate your freedom? I sure do, my freedom to have spare time that is, bring on the games! You all by now know my views (some of you strongly disagree), I personally Love Steam and have never ever had a problem with it.
So now it really is almost here, what are your views? Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Keep an eye out on Monday, Valve are talking at Ubuntu Developer Summit
Drew Bliss - Valve
2012-10-29 14:15..14:30 in Auditorium 10+11
Pretty sure that's GMT time.
Drew Bliss - Valve
2012-10-29 14:15..14:30 in Auditorium 10+11
Pretty sure that's GMT time.
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Qantourisc Oct 26, 2012
I'm not quite sure of what it is you're saying. Is B Free Software in this case? If so, why would costs of development be increased?
If B is commercial: increased cost; if it's free: lot more work to develop, more bugs, and bigger code.
Edit:
My main point is just, closed-source software is not nearly as bad, as the lack of open standards is bad.
I see more and more cloud applications that create more and more vendor lock-in.
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Keep an eye out on Monday, Valve are talking at Ubuntu Developer Summit
Drew Bliss - Valve
2012-10-29 14:15..14:30 in Auditorium 10+11
Pretty sure that's GMT time.
Seeing as they added another cdr entry called Steam Linux UDS Beta, I bet that's when we see the beta. Can't wait!
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Cheeseness Oct 27, 2012
If B is commercial: increased cost; if it's free: lot more work to develop, more bugs, and bigger code.
Edit:
My main point is just, closed-source software is not nearly as bad, as the lack of open standards is bad.
I see more and more cloud applications that create more and more vendor lock-in.
Ah, I see. There are open standards in the spaces you were talking about though (some of which you mentioned). I don't agree that using open standards requires bigger codebases or encourages more bugs.
I agree that the lack of dominant open standards is not a good thing, but I don't feel that embracing proprietary software (or saying it's not so bad) is going to help overcome that.
Also, the beta survey page on the Valve site went live earlier :)
http://gamingonlinux.com/index.php?threads/steam-for-linux-beta-survey-is-live.1108/
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Qantourisc Oct 27, 2012
I don't agree that using open standards requires bigger codebases or encourages more bugs.Me neither, but I assume you made a typo ? Otherwise I agree with your quote.
And it's not that there are no open standards, is that they aren't used and people don't care. This hurts them, and it also hurts us (imo).
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Cheeseness Oct 27, 2012
Me neither, but I assume you made a typo ? Otherwise I agree with your quote.
"if it's free: lot more work to develop, more bugs, and bigger code."
Free Software doesn't require more work, bigger codebases or encourage more bugs either.
And it's not that there are no open standards, is that they aren't used and people don't care. This hurts them, and it also hurts us (imo).
Yeah, definitely. A lack of awareness isn't healthy for anybody (that probably goes for everything though :D ).
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My view is that I don't like DRM and I don't think I will register with Steam because of this. Anyway, I'm happy it pleases others and I hope it gives a boost to gaming on GNU/Linux so we get more games ported out of Steam.
About the other issue some people have over GNU/Linux, I don't mind using that name, not the best name maybe, but I'm not against it. It's not just a way to raise awareness on important issues but it's also a way of differentiating the kernel project from the distro. Android has/uses/is a derivative of Linux but it's not GNU/Linux. It reminds me a lot of the problem with Debian and Ubuntu. Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, but Ubuntu is not Debian. You can read this a lot on Debian support channels.
About the other issue some people have over GNU/Linux, I don't mind using that name, not the best name maybe, but I'm not against it. It's not just a way to raise awareness on important issues but it's also a way of differentiating the kernel project from the distro. Android has/uses/is a derivative of Linux but it's not GNU/Linux. It reminds me a lot of the problem with Debian and Ubuntu. Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, but Ubuntu is not Debian. You can read this a lot on Debian support channels.
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Qantourisc Oct 29, 2012
A game is never geared towards a distribution, it's geared towards ONE version of a distribution. You are far better of targeting certain libs.
And I also don't like DRM, I also don't like Apple Phone or Android or Windows, there is still 1 alternative but if that doesn't work, I still need to pick one of those 3 :/
(Luckly I don't need a smartphone atm.)
And I also don't like DRM, I also don't like Apple Phone or Android or Windows, there is still 1 alternative but if that doesn't work, I still need to pick one of those 3 :/
(Luckly I don't need a smartphone atm.)
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