AMD's Mantle May Still Come To Linux, Despite Other Websites Reports

Yeah, well, this is the company that fired most of their Linux kernel devs in 2012. I won't take seriously anything they *say* until I see some solid stuff.

For all the talk about Mantle being open and yadda yadda, we have yet to see specifications.

Quoting: SilviuYeah, well, this is the company that fired most of their Linux kernel devs in 2012. I won't take seriously anything they *say* until I see some solid stuff.

For all the talk about Mantle being open and yadda yadda, we have yet to see specifications.

With any luck, Mantle'll end up being killed before too long.

Does the fact that Apsyr Media is involved in the Linux(and Mac OSX) ports of the new Civ game mean that we will have to select platform on Steam and that it won't support Steamplay?

Quoting: KristianDoes the fact that Apsyr Media is involved in the Linux(and Mac OSX) ports of the new Civ game mean that we will have to select platform on Steam and that it won't support Steamplay?

No, they did the Civ ports last time and Borderlands, all Steam Play.

Only issue is we may see delays with patches and DLC.

I'm not surprised that there's no current implementation of Mantle for Linux (if the developers don't have access to anything, than you can be damned sure it won't exist anytime soon). AMD never actively stated they would support any other OS besides Windows with it. On top of that, AMD struggle to support the latest kernels with their Catalyst driver.

I find it near impossible they'd be able to manage a whole new API support for Linux. In time they might hire more Linux staff, but until then they will stay behind in performance and support for Linux compared to their Windows side.

I do not get it. Why Aspyr is porting his first game to Linux? They change their mind about Linux, and now they will become another company involved in porting games to Linux? Perhaps, they port only one game to Linux and they won't do it anymore in the future. I bought some games from them, but I did not think that they will port a game to Linux. Can clarify that situation?

Never saw the point of mantle, and makez no difference really if we get it or not. OpenGL is fine really, AMD need to improve their driver to work with linux rather than stuck on it and better preformance will happen.

AMD sucks... Mantle is a waste effort when they could just use that time to improve their driver.

I won't be buying another AMD hardware that for sure. Who needs AMD?

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: AnonymousAMD sucks... Mantle is a waste effort when they could just use that time to improve their driver.

I won't be buying another AMD hardware that for sure. Who needs AMD?

Mantle served its purpose in pointing out how much overhead there is (or has been) with gaming. We can get an awful lot more out of current machines if that overhead is stripped away. There is a reason DX12 is going the same way as Mantle, and there is a reason for a recent collusion between manufacturers on how to reduce driver overhead when using OpenGL. That benefits everyone, not just AMD (though undoubtedly they get the greatest benefit from it with APU systems). For those reasons alone, Mantle has been successful and worth it to the companies and consumers, regardless of whether it comes out on Linux or not.
Also, AMD & FOSS drivers. Enough said.

FOSS drivers are good but dude it not good enough...

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: AnonymousFOSS drivers are good but dude it not good enough...

Alright, I'll bite, how is having FOSS drivers and providing full programmer's documentation not good enough? Intel and AMD both do that, and both contribute to their development. Not really sure what more you're expecting there.

Geez, I don't know... performance?. We're talking about gaming here.

Of course I expect the "it works just fine for me" band wagon to arrive. I mean, somehow you need to justify spending money on AMD's crap and still feel good about it.