Asus has given out some details on their G20 gaming PC that's aimed at being a Steam Machine and is waiting on the SteamOS launch schedule.
It's not going to be a cheap unit either sporting an Intel i7 processor and an Nvidia 780gtx graphics card, so it remains to be seen how this will sell as it looks like they are aiming for the high end.
The unit itself does look great though, but just how long will it be before Windows ends up being sold on it instead of SteamOS?
I can already see why Steam Machines are useful, I have my PC linked up to a big TV in front of my bed and it's really akward to use traditional UI on it from a distance. Having to turn up the font-size on everything makes it look horrible. Bring it on.
You can see the full list of what is to come from Asus here. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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The Base one come's with a Nvidia GTX 750 TI but the i7 was just kick ass
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I hope there will be also some high-quality steam machines in a simplistic, humble design. Obviously the market demands these (too me embarrassing) futuristic designs. I don't...
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Asus! Finally a brand I can trust. These guys are solid when it comes to good hardware components and engineering. Everything I can get from Asus, I get from Asus (motherboards, GPUs, sound cards, routers etc).
Best of all, most of their stuff works right off the bat with Linux. Heck, I have Ubuntu 14.04 installed and running without a hitch on an Asus G750JX which is a top of the line ROG gaming laptop!
P.S: Even had a motherboard shorted by a thunderstorm. A quick follow of their manual, and the board was up and running again within the hour. It's been almost 3 years since then, still running!
Best of all, most of their stuff works right off the bat with Linux. Heck, I have Ubuntu 14.04 installed and running without a hitch on an Asus G750JX which is a top of the line ROG gaming laptop!
P.S: Even had a motherboard shorted by a thunderstorm. A quick follow of their manual, and the board was up and running again within the hour. It's been almost 3 years since then, still running!
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Ahhh ASUS! My favourite brand, has been so since all they did were motherboards back in the days.
And dang they look cool too, these machines. This might end up on my to-buy list.
And dang they look cool too, these machines. This might end up on my to-buy list.
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http://rog.asus.com/325082014/gaming-desktop-pcs/rog-gr8-console-pc-and-g20-small-form-factor-gaming-pc-faq/
Both the G20 and the GR8 are gonna launch in Q3 before the launch of SteamOS and will come with Windows 8.1 preinstalled, but they have announced that once SteamOS launches there'll be a SteamOS version that comes bundled with the controller and SteamOS preinstalled.
Both the G20 and the GR8 are gonna launch in Q3 before the launch of SteamOS and will come with Windows 8.1 preinstalled, but they have announced that once SteamOS launches there'll be a SteamOS version that comes bundled with the controller and SteamOS preinstalled.
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why the hell do they sell the 750 TI version with a i7 ????
i keep wondering why companies keep doing stupid things like that, an i3, fx6300 or fx8350 is more than good enough for gaming with a graphics card like that, why spend 3 times more on the cpu than on the GPU ??????
it will end up making the machine overpriced for the performance you get, with an i3 you save 200$ without compromosing more than 3 fps
i keep wondering why companies keep doing stupid things like that, an i3, fx6300 or fx8350 is more than good enough for gaming with a graphics card like that, why spend 3 times more on the cpu than on the GPU ??????
it will end up making the machine overpriced for the performance you get, with an i3 you save 200$ without compromosing more than 3 fps
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You raise a good question loggfreak. I've hypothesized that it could be:
1. Future proof the system. A normal user can learn to unplug and plug in a GPU. Not so with a CPU (different pin positions for different generations, different CPU heatsink designs, application of thermal paste and determining if the motherboard will support newer CPUs are all enthusiast level knowledge)
2. Intel's shady business behind the scenes. They have a stronghold on certain vendors, and force them to sell their higher end CPUs regardless.
3. The average computer user is more likely to think a computer is "powerful" if it has more core numbers and a higher clock speed, rather than knowing the difference between GPUs.
4. The future is multi-threaded application and game development.
These are just my guesses, and like you, I truly wonder why they pair them so oddly. These types of things are always fun to learn about when the industry lets everyone in on it.
1. Future proof the system. A normal user can learn to unplug and plug in a GPU. Not so with a CPU (different pin positions for different generations, different CPU heatsink designs, application of thermal paste and determining if the motherboard will support newer CPUs are all enthusiast level knowledge)
2. Intel's shady business behind the scenes. They have a stronghold on certain vendors, and force them to sell their higher end CPUs regardless.
3. The average computer user is more likely to think a computer is "powerful" if it has more core numbers and a higher clock speed, rather than knowing the difference between GPUs.
4. The future is multi-threaded application and game development.
These are just my guesses, and like you, I truly wonder why they pair them so oddly. These types of things are always fun to learn about when the industry lets everyone in on it.
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This is just a small form factor computer for gamers, it's not a Steam Machines.
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Gotta factor in volumes and production lines, too; ordering a crap-ton of i7s might not be so much more expensive than a lot of i7s and a lot of i3s, and minimising the differences between models simplifies the manufacturing process -- they can just keep feeding the same parts into the same machines no matter what they're assembling (up to a point, obviously).
So the cost difference might not be as much as you'd assume.
So the cost difference might not be as much as you'd assume.
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Also I think they want all the OS thing to be as performant as possible, and a way to do it is to give it great computing performance. An i5 is indeed good enough for gaming (I personnaly doubt an i3 is worth an i5 with a gtx750 Ti), but an i7 makes the system snappier and totaly bottleneck free. Remember that console players need to have their system managed and updated automaticaly and seamlessly. They don't want to mess with computer related things. See how people reacted when the Wii U was released, its slow OS was bashed whenever possible.
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("performant" <= I actually meant well-performing, or efficient. Sorry for this French/English mix-up...)
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