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Games On AMD FOSS Drivers 2

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Hey people, got a really nice graph to show off today. On a follow up from my last article, loads more work has been done to Mesa and the Radeon driver, and the speed improvement from 10.0.3 to 10.2 is phenomenal.

Before we begin here are the benchmark conditions:

What the benchmark can't help you with:

  • Showing a great detail on how each card has improved.
  • Comparing between FGLRX (proprietary) and Radeon (FOSS).
  • Performance in extremely high intensive tasks beyond gaming.

What this benchmark can help you with:

  • Showing in good detail how performance has been increased in mesa as a whole.
  • What driver you should choose on your next update.
  • The general trend in progress, and how the acceleration of development has increased.


So with that out of the way, lets examine the results.
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These results are taken from the same demo files and settings with only the kernel version and mesa version being changed. You can also see the addition of Unigine Valley which did not actually run on the 10.0 drivers which is a big step up in itself. The other games ran from 46% increases all the way to 462% which I am pretty sure must be a bug in Portal or something because I did not believe my eyes even after running repeated tests :) .

The majority of the source games ran with 2xAA so there is an increase to be seen there when it used to limit the games quite a bit but now it seems its no longer an issue as although not benchmarked here, I can comfortably run each game at a minimum of 40fps now. From these results, its no wonder that AMD wants to drop its catalyst driver for FOSS principles when you see results like this that catalyst just isn't getting on it's own.

As with all Linux projects, 10.3 is already in full swing and will be benchmarked as soon as the arch repository's update with it. For those of you that want the action now need to make sure your kernel is as up to date as your distro can be while still being stable and some distributions have third party providers to newer mesa versions. Arch and its derivatives can download the latest mesa from its repositories along with the latest 3.15 kernel.

In my own opinion we are accelerating at such a speed with these drivers, especially with the news that valve are now supporting its development.

If you would like to see the results, demo files for your own benchmarks, or the system specifications then visit this Google Docs page. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Anonymous Jun 10, 2014
It's a chart. I didn't do it, sorry, correct: I didn't fake it. I don't trust it .

Jokes beside, fact is that Intel, Valve and AMD are now throwing "cash" in the form of developers (aka the "better cash" at this topic. I hope they'll iron out some of the long standing mesa issues too (architectual whise, some parts need refactoring badly...).
So if not cash, what are they throwing at the project?
Hamish Jun 10, 2014
I hope they are not throwing developers - they might get their necks broken. :P
Anonymous Jun 11, 2014
"propriatory", really Liam? :D
Anonymous Jun 11, 2014
All that graph really shows is that although it's better than it was, it's still complete rubbish compared to nvidia on linux with prop drivers.
MayeulC Jun 11, 2014
Arch and its derivatives can download the latest mesa from its repositories along with the latest 3.15 kernel.
OMG 307 packets on my last pacman -Syu. Some KDE updates as well as (finally) the latest mesa and kernel stuff...

Anyway thank you for these graphs :)
Anonymous Jun 11, 2014
paupavHow can I install it. I'm using radeon 7770 ?
What distro are you running?
I'm running Ubuntu Gnome.
Hamish Jun 11, 2014
All that graph really shows is that although it's better than it was, it's still complete rubbish compared to nvidia on linux with prop drivers.

Define your "proper drivers". A real argument could be made that the only "proper drivers" on Linux are those that actually rely on the "proper" Linux graphics stack, therefore making all binary blobs painful kludges that weld on a huge chunk of Windows in an effort to try and cut down on "proper" engineering time and in the end results in less "proper" system integration and less "proper" code access. "Proper" can be a difficult adjective.
loggfreak Jun 11, 2014
The card is from 2008 after all, and has already given me almost four years solid service.
if a cardd is from 2008, and it's 2014, doesn't that make it 6 years of service?
or did you mean it was released in 2008, and you bought it in 2010?
FutureSuture Jun 11, 2014
AnonymousAll that graph really shows is that although it's better than it was, it's still complete rubbish compared to nvidia on linux with prop drivers.
Define your "proper drivers". A real argument could be made that the only "proper drivers" on Linux are those that actually rely on the "proper" Linux graphics stack, therefore making all binary blobs painful kludges that weld on a huge chunk of Windows in an effort to try and cut down on "proper" engineering time and in the end results in less "proper" system integration and less "proper" code access. "Proper" can be a difficult adjective.
I am pretty sure he meant Nvidia's proprietary driver, although I most certainly do not disagree with you.
Hamish Jun 11, 2014
if a cardd is from 2008, and it's 2014, doesn't that make it 6 years of service?
or did you mean it was released in 2008, and you bought it in 2010?

I never buy graphics cards unless they are used. Retail is too dodgy and expensive in my experience.

HI am pretty sure he meant Nvidia's proprietary driver, although I most certainly do not disagree with you.

I knew which driver he was referring to specifically, I was asking for his definition of what constitutes "proper drivers" as that was the point I was debating. I am not that aloof.
Half-Shot Jun 11, 2014
How can I install it. I'm using radeon 7770 ?
What distro are you running?I'm running Ubuntu Gnome.

Righty, after a bit of reading the things you will need:

Ubuntu 14.04 as it provides Linux 3.15 which is a must have.
According to this Ubuntu will have mesa 10.2 very soon. For now you will have mesa 10.1.3 but I'm sure within a few weeks you should get these sort of numbers.

Getting mesa should be a simple case of going through this.
Cestarian Jun 11, 2014
I would have liked to see fglrx performance too just to compare.
FutureSuture Jun 11, 2014
CestarianI would have liked to see fglrx performance too just to compare.
I routinely switch between Mesa and fglrx on my desktop, using a 6950. Mesa is typically around 90% of fglrx performance, depending on various details (e.g power profile).
90% of fglrx's performance, but far more stable? Yea, I'll take that.
CFWhitman Jun 11, 2014
I knew which driver he was referring to specifically, I was asking for his definition of what constitutes "proper drivers" as that was the point I was debating. I am not that aloof.

I think that loggfreak's point was that the anonymous poster actually said "prop drivers," and, while it is understandable that you would read that as 'proper drivers,' he thinks the poster meant 'proprietary drivers.' Personally, my initial tendency was to read it as 'proper,' but then I thought twice, and it's quite possible that loggfreak's impression is accurate.
CFWhitman Jun 11, 2014
My general experience says that Catalyst drivers stink for 2D acceleration, and thus generally for video playback. Once the open source drivers attain reasonable performance for 3D, I tend to switch to them because the overall experience is better, even if some games don't play quite as well (a few games may actually work better with the open source drivers because of bugs in Catalyst, but Catalyst drivers have fewer bugs than they used to).

You can get reasonable video playback with the Catalyst drivers by using a media player which supports OpenGL output and using that. Otherwise you will tend to get tearing.
Hamish Jun 11, 2014
I think that loggfreak's point was that the anonymous poster actually said "prop drivers," and, while it is understandable that you would read that as 'proper drivers,' he thinks the poster meant 'proprietary drivers.' Personally, my initial tendency was to read it as 'proper,' but then I thought twice, and it's quite possible that loggfreak's impression is accurate.

Okay, that may be true. Maybe I am being that aloof. :|

Another lesson in the folly of abbreviation.
paupav Jun 11, 2014
I didn't ever had any problem with proprietary AMD drivers... I don't know what are you talking about.
FutureSuture Jun 12, 2014
HamishI knew which driver he was referring to specifically, I was asking for his definition of what constitutes "proper drivers" as that was the point I was debating. I am not that aloof.
I think that loggfreak's point was that the anonymous poster actually said "prop drivers," and, while it is understandable that you would read that as 'proper drivers,' he thinks the poster meant 'proprietary drivers.' Personally, my initial tendency was to read it as 'proper,' but then I thought twice, and it's quite possible that loggfreak's impression is accurate.
I think you mean that totally cool character known as FutureSuture as loggfreak didn't tackle this issue as far as I am aware.
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