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Peter Lohrmann has been working on Valve's VOGL debugger to make it easier to use for developers looking to it for help.

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QuoteVoglEditor now has support for launching and tracing your application, directly from the UI. Previously, (and still available) you'd have to launch your application from the command line, which could add confusion on where to supply vogl or application command line arguments.


That's quite a big barrier to break-down, which means it should be easier than ever to use VOGL and that's impressive work especially as it's open source.

After a week of multiple blog posts talking down on OpenGL it's nice to find something good around it, a decent (and user friendly!) OpenGL debugger is something that developers have wanted for years.

See the full blog post on it here. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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loggfreak Jun 5, 2014
Quoting: DMJCOpenGL Drama summed up:
ATi/AMD hasn't put enough resources into their OpenGL drivers despite having 15-20 odd years to do so.

seriously this is exactly the reason amd is lagging behind in general, the difference between amd/nvidia isn't nearly as big as you make it, same stuff for their cpu's
pople just spend lot of time bashing amd and praising intel/nvidia, and the worst thing is that it's not on linux, on windows as well, nvidia is destroying the industry with their proprietary technology(look at how hard it is for amd to optimize drivers for nvidia gameworks titles) and in stores they only sell intel because 'that is what most people know best', when in reality it isn't always true, especially in the athlon days, where the general public still thought 'intel=better', resulting in having still poor profit, which is why they lost the performance advantage so quickly
they are in both cpu and gpu market and have to compete in both, still they don't even have close to the profit of intel or nvidia, who only have to compete in 1 market
so yeah you can say nvidia's proprietary drivers on linux are better, but it's mostly a result of all the bashing, bashing them even more makes it even worse and makes the industry steer towards a monopoly, and everyone knows how good that is for the consumers
Cestarian Jun 5, 2014
Quoting: liamdaweMaybe I did mean Windows programmers? Having to drop to a command line is a pain for a lot of people and the quicker Linux elitists realise that the better we will all be. We have to break out of this mentality if we will ever accept windows converts.

Spread love not hate.

This is true, but the problem with linux that ties us to the command line interface is that not everyone has the same GUI!

The solution to this I can think of off the top of my head is having cross DE configuration tools (i.e. configuration tools that can be used regardless of desktop environment, like for example xrandr which unfortujnately (as faras I know) has no official GUI front end)

But the terminal is like.. it's really great, but it should be optional I agree with you it's just that it's one of the only few things all(most) linux installations have in common.
Half-Shot Jun 5, 2014
Quoting: Guest
Quoting: liamdaweMaybe I did mean Windows programmers? Having to drop to a command line is a pain for a lot of people and the quicker Linux elitists realise that the better we will all be. We have to break out of this mentality if we will ever accept windows converts.

Spread love not hate.
This is true, but the problem with linux that ties us to the command line interface is that not everyone has the same GUI!

The solution to this I can think of off the top of my head is having cross DE configuration tools (i.e. configuration tools that can be used regardless of desktop environment, like for example xrandr which unfortujnately (as faras I know) has no official GUI front end)

QT is cross de (and even cross platform) and I bet almost every linux user will have it installed.
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