Oh boy, I do love a good rant from a developer. This time it's the C4 engine dropping Linux support (honestly, how many of you have even heard of C4?).
Warning: It's a real rant.
Choice quote from their announcement
QuoteThis decision was made based on the disproportionate cost, both in terms of time and money, that we incur to support Linux relative to a very small return on our investment. This decision was also made to preserve my own sanity since my personal experiences with Linux have been extremely negative and have resulted in huge wastes of time that could have been better spent on more productive tasks. Terathon Software will no longer contribute to the popularity of an operating system that I personally view as inferior in design to both Windows and Mac OS X. Linux has proven to be Frankenstein OS assembled from a disparate array of barely functioning parts with horrible reliability and little potential for future improvement. Time that would have been spent on Linux support will now be used to strengthen our product on platforms with much greater viability.
The comments are just, amazing. One commenter provided this funny image:
And the developer responded with:
QuoteIt's my expert opinion, man.
Oh my, I mean there's being a good developer, and there's being a bit full of yourself.
He has also been dropping gems on his Twitter account:
Finished excision of Linux code from the C4 Engine. Negative 2008 lines. Good riddance.
— Eric Lengyel (@EricLengyel) January 10, 2015I have reached the point where I feel morally obligated to drop all support for Linux.
— Eric Lengyel (@EricLengyel) January 10, 2015Things like this are concerning though, and it is a real issue:
I love it when Ubuntu starts freezing for no good reason right before the login screen. That's high-quality engineering right there.
— Eric Lengyel (@EricLengyel) December 26, 2014I do wonder if it is a hardware or a driver issue, my last freezing issue turned out to be RAM that failed at specific things.
We don't often write about people ranting about Linux, and for one developer making a full bit of kit like C4 it can be time consuming, so we don't have much to say other than "oh well". We still have many more better engines around.
All hail Frankenstein, in Frankenstein we trust. Move along.
P.S. Please try to keep comments reasonable about this topic. Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Quoting: BreezeNormally we should look at these Linux hating rants to better see the weaknesses of Linux game development. However, there is absolutely no substance in his post. Some configurations can be painful to install Linux (Windows too), but the rest of his complaints are pure garbageWell, it's partially correct if you were to completely build your own Linux Distro from scratch. Otherwise....
"Linux has proven to be Frankenstein OS assembled from a disparate array of barely functioning parts with horrible reliability and little potential for future improvement."
None of those things are even remotely correct. It's so wrong I laughed when I read it. Linux game development has a lot of short comings, but he doesn't mention any of them.
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QuoteP.S. Please keep comments reasonable about this topic.It's in paradox with your article which publicly exposes a fool for the crowd to throw rocks at. There can hardly be anything reasonable in that. :S:
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QuoteIt's my expert opinion, man.
He should really tell that those novices at Aspire, Feral and Valve!
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Segata Sanshiro Jan 12, 2015
I don't see how a platform which is overwhelmingly used in every single application (other than home PCs) can be considered to be inferior. My experience with web developers using Windows servers who say Linux is inferior (have met a couple), it's because they don't know how to use it and don't want to be made to feel inferior themselves.
My girlfriend (who I would consider an entry-level user) managed to install Xubuntu on a computer with no help at all and running into no issues. Guess she's more of an "expert" that him.
Quoting: valczirFYI, the developer that called himself an "expert" (I assume he means it in the same way that Apple Store employees are "geniuses" ) tweeted about his inability to install ubuntu on a computer after a full day of effort.
My girlfriend (who I would consider an entry-level user) managed to install Xubuntu on a computer with no help at all and running into no issues. Guess she's more of an "expert" that him.
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jedidiah_lnx Jan 12, 2015
One thing that struck me as interesting is how this thing seems to be targeted at academic sales and includes source code. It almost seems like the perfect situation for end user contributions in the usual manner of Linux and other Free Software.
I find his inability to install Ubuntu disturbing... quite disturbing.
I find his inability to install Ubuntu disturbing... quite disturbing.
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From the site that shall not be named: "He says too in the future that they may support SteamOS but that they will not let the engine run on Linux in general."
I hope Valve does not let this happen. And for this reason alone, I will endeavor to NEVER give a single cent to any game that uses C4. Basically he's saying, "We want money from Linux gamers in case SteamOS does take off... But otherwise, FUCK YOU, LINUX GAMERS!"
I hope Valve does not let this happen. And for this reason alone, I will endeavor to NEVER give a single cent to any game that uses C4. Basically he's saying, "We want money from Linux gamers in case SteamOS does take off... But otherwise, FUCK YOU, LINUX GAMERS!"
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Well that is unfortunate. From what I have gathered the guy just basically rage quit. I'm really curious what his issues were as I don't see anywhere he has outlined them. The only thing I see was a tweet complaining about ubuntu freezing before login.
Oh well.. it is unfortunate to lose the engine for Linux, but at the same time it doesn't seem like we are losing much if anything.. I don't see a single one of those games available for Linux now and the only one to mention Linux was his own game "The 31st" which doesn't look at all interesting based on the clip I just watched.. so move along.. nothing to see here.
Oh well.. it is unfortunate to lose the engine for Linux, but at the same time it doesn't seem like we are losing much if anything.. I don't see a single one of those games available for Linux now and the only one to mention Linux was his own game "The 31st" which doesn't look at all interesting based on the clip I just watched.. so move along.. nothing to see here.
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linux_gamer Jan 12, 2015
Which percentage of Games/Applications runs with C4 engine? Probably 1% if you round favourable.
I personally view the C4 engine inferior to Source, Cry, or Unreal Engine
I personally view the C4 engine inferior to Source, Cry, or Unreal Engine
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https://mobile.twitter.com/EricLengyel/status/552672506016825345
Ubuntu is an ancient african word that means "I can't configure Debian".
EricLengyel is an ancient word that means "I can't install Ubuntu".
Ubuntu is an ancient african word that means "I can't configure Debian".
EricLengyel is an ancient word that means "I can't install Ubuntu".
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