Divinity: Original Sin - Enhanced Edition Delayed For Linux, Again

It's got echoes of Carmageddon all over.
I backed that game just for the Linux port, how long have we waited for that now?

Quoting: Imants

Quoting: Mountain ManFor that matter, you can even buy Linux-compatible versions of Bioware classics like Baulders Gate 1 and 2, and Icewind Dale.

There's no need to waste a single penny supporting Larian.

Wasn't Baldurs gate and Icewind dale interplay classics made buy Black Isles?

Were they? I could have sworn they were Bioware titles.

O.K., you're right about Icewind Dale, but Baulder's Gate 1 and 2 were definitely Bioware games.

http://www.bioware.com/en/games/

I should be disappointed or pissed off, but I'm not because I fully expected this. I have zero faith left in Larian and I fully expect them to **** us over again come December.

QuoteI am so very glad I stopped Kickstarting Linux games a long time ago. Far, far too many broken promises.

It's not the right attitude IMO. I don't remember having to wait for all the other kickstarted big RPGs (Wasteland, Pillars, Shadowrun) and without Linux users supporting those campaigns, we wouldn't have a Linux version.

If you're not happy with some studios delaying the Linux port, you can ask for a refund. Some will respond favorably to that (the devs of Consortium did in my case). The others do deserve all your hate. But avoiding crowdfunding entirely just because of them is not doing us any good.

Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Imants

Quoting: Mountain ManFor that matter, you can even buy Linux-compatible versions of Bioware classics like Baulders Gate 1 and 2, and Icewind Dale.

There's no need to waste a single penny supporting Larian.

Wasn't Baldurs gate and Icewind dale interplay classics made buy Black Isles?

Were they? I could have sworn they were Bioware titles.

O.K., you're right about Icewind Dale, but Baulder's Gate 1 and 2 were definitely Bioware games.

http://www.bioware.com/en/games/

You where more right than me but in some aspect we bought where right :D.
Baldurs gate where developed by Biowhare but published by interplay and still belongs to interplay. Thanks to wikipedia and you I learned something new today :)

Quoting: Xodetaetl

QuoteI am so very glad I stopped Kickstarting Linux games a long time ago. Far, far too many broken promises.

It's not the right attitude IMO. I don't remember having to wait for all the other kickstarted big RPGs (Wasteland, Pillars, Shadowrun) and without Linux users supporting those campaigns, we wouldn't have a Linux version.

If you're not happy with some studios delaying the Linux port, you can ask for a refund. Some will respond favorably to that (the devs of Consortium did in my case). The others do deserve all your hate. But avoiding crowdfunding entirely just because of them is not doing us any good.

I buy things that exist, I don't buy on promises. Kickstarter is a written promise, nothing more. Too full of uncertainty for me, and too many bad apples have ruined it for me personally. You can feel free to pledge as you wish.

My one pledge isn't going to make all that much difference, and if it is then it can't be very interesting.

Sadly as a kickstarter backer this is the game that made me stop investing in other games... We need a Jim Sterling type to slam these guys into the mud for us few voiceless Linux lovers.... Linux version promised... promise broken, Linux version of new game promised... promise broken. Day 1 Linux release of updated original games, promise broken... SAVE US JIM! #fvcklarian!

Quoting: LukeNukemIt's got echoes of Carmageddon all over.
I backed that game just for the Linux port, how long have we waited for that now?

That was always going to be worked on post full launch.

While this obvious lack of commitment to their own promises is disappointing, I wouldn't go as far as lashing out at Kickstarter in general. KS has helped getting many games on Linux that otherwise wouldn't have seen a port in all likelihood. For me personally, of all the games I ever backed (which is quite some), only TWO didn't live up to their promises. That's...not so bad. It's the same as with Early Access - yes, there have been bad apples, but we also have seen great examples of studios handling it really responsibly and well. There is no good reason to question the validity of either KS or EA as a business model just because a few studios fail to deliver what they promised. It's more a reason to be wary of these particular studios. Will I be vary of Larian in the future? Yes. There is zero chance I will ever back any of their projects again. I might still buy their products when they are finished, but no more cash in advance from me. Lesson learned, moving on.

Quoting: EagleDeltaOk, I'm going to be the voice that no one agrees with, but Larian is a business. No matter what they promised, no matter what we expect, their #1 goal is to make money... nothing else. So from a business perspective, it makes sense that they would focus on the largest markets first for the Enhanced Edition.

Is it kind of shitty? Yes.
Is it the reality of the world we live in? Yes.

I think you just forgot about the whole "send us your money, we're releasing this on Linux" matter, but hey as Liam says, it's only a promise.

So, let us behave the way we treat people who don't honour a (paid for) promise: distrust and boycott them. I don't mean to insult them with my reaction, I'm just telling Larian to act realistically. We're not interested in this project any longer. Just see how backers -- or I should say investors -- react to this: too little, too late.

Because you underline the fact Larian is a business, let me remind you some basic communication and marketing knowledge: distrust is the worst thing you can get as a business. Distrust from customers is one thing, distrust from investors is way more dangerous.

I know we're not as representative a market as Windows, but who cares. A business that doesn't want customers doesn't deserve customers, and one who betrays them doesn't deserve anything at all.

Quoting: ShmerlLarian were hit by lack of Linux developers I suspect. They develop their own engine, and unlike the above which use Unity, they actually write their own graphics code.

As was pointed out already, the fact that they didn't include Linux in their new crowdfunding campaign is very telling.

On this I totally agree, but still, we need to define more accurately the role of crowd-funding. People pay real money to play this on Linux, I don't see why they should be treated so lightly. It's not the Linux gamer reacting here, it's the basic customer, and my reaction is just as the above, i.e. distrust and boycott. And laugh at them.


Last edited by omer666 on 21 October 2015 at 8:01 pm UTC