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They are no longer using SteamOS, but their own Linux-based "SMACH Z OS", although it will still be a mostly normal Linux distribution since it will run Linux games and Steam.
What bugs me, is that they "recommend" their Linux OS, but all their benchmarks in the video and noted on the Kickstarter were done on Windows. That tells me a lot about their confidence in showing how it will run games if people don't use Windows. As sad as that is, we know most games run a bit slower on Linux right now, so it's not really surprising. The real issue here, is that Windows support is a stretch-goal, meaning all of the benchmark/performance information is useless unless they hit that goal.
They are looking for at least €250,000 and they already have €186,194 at time of writing, so it looks like they will easily hit their main goal with 31 days still to go.
Specifications:
CPU: AMD Merlin Falcon RX-421BD (12-15w) SoC at 2.1 GHz
Cores: 4/4
iGPU: Radeon R7 at 800 MHz
RAM: 4GB (SMACH Z) || 8GB (SMACH Z PRO) DDR4 2133 MHz
HD: 64GB (SMACH Z) || 128GB (SMACH Z PRO)
Screen: 6” FULL HD (1920x1080). Capacitive touch-screen.
Battery: 5 hours of gaming.
MicroSD Card Slot.
USB 3.0 type C.
HDMI video output connection.
Wi-Fi connectivity 5.0 Ghz. 4G LTE mobile network connectivity (PRO model only)
Bluetooth connectivity.
Front-camera 1.3-megapixels (PRO model only)
Will you be backing it? It's far too risky for me to even consider it. I may pick one up if it turns out well enough.
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I'm a little bit torn about this device.
On the one hand, cool! Mobile PC Gaming. And from the stats, a lot of games could run decent enough for some mobile fun.
On the other hand... an expensive gadget that will be already outdated when it's being released. New games which will be released from now might even not run properly anymore on that device.
I want them to succeed, I was thinking about pledging. But the early bird tiers have already been gone some minutes after the start, and I recently got new hardware, so I want to save some money.
Their custom Linux version sounds interesting though. It's cool to read they are recommending Linux, as they can better adopt to their hardware. I'm curious how this turns out. Maybe I'll get the second version, if it succeeds.
On the one hand, cool! Mobile PC Gaming. And from the stats, a lot of games could run decent enough for some mobile fun.
On the other hand... an expensive gadget that will be already outdated when it's being released. New games which will be released from now might even not run properly anymore on that device.
I want them to succeed, I was thinking about pledging. But the early bird tiers have already been gone some minutes after the start, and I recently got new hardware, so I want to save some money.
Their custom Linux version sounds interesting though. It's cool to read they are recommending Linux, as they can better adopt to their hardware. I'm curious how this turns out. Maybe I'll get the second version, if it succeeds.
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I'm very very tempted. It is pricey and I've already got a Pyra on pre-order (should do an update on that one soon perhaps), but yeah, EU4 on the go? I'd like more storage tbh, expandable storage shouldn't have been hard to add, you don't exactly need stupid performance for some games on the go, and memory cards are fairly cheap.
The amount of games I could play on this... Ah yeah, how much is that worth! I'm debating.
The amount of games I could play on this... Ah yeah, how much is that worth! I'm debating.
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Is way too expensive for my liking.
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As a project it looks pretty interesting. Unfortunately, the developer has a pretty bad history of failed projects.
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but how they think to run games with a integrated GPU AMD APU?
i've a notebook with AMD APU A10 8700p (15W) with integrated radeon r6, performance are really bad on linux (and a lot of game that on windows runs very well, on linux with opensource driver (AMDGPU) performance are orrible and the games are unplayable.
before use an APU on a linux console, AMD should release good driver with good performance, and i don't think that they have some agreements with AMD to relase optimized driver for this project
i've a notebook with AMD APU A10 8700p (15W) with integrated radeon r6, performance are really bad on linux (and a lot of game that on windows runs very well, on linux with opensource driver (AMDGPU) performance are orrible and the games are unplayable.
before use an APU on a linux console, AMD should release good driver with good performance, and i don't think that they have some agreements with AMD to relase optimized driver for this project
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Some of the mentioned specs also seems to be only strech-goals, which seems a bit sketchy.
Still overall a nice machine by the looks of it.
Still overall a nice machine by the looks of it.
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The first time I saw the new ad with Castle Crashers, I thought that it was signs of a Linux port :| . It's a nice machine, but for the cost of around $300 USD? That seems a bit too much. Also, I just don't know that the performance is going to be there for Linux, unless they've been working very closely with AMD.
This project seems very lofty. If Valve had so much trouble launching a custom Linux gaming box with their own distribution, I have less faith in this company. I feel like SteamOS/Stephenson's Rocket should have been optimized for the SmachZ as a collaborative effort rather than their own distro. I suppose time will tell, but at least there's a lot of work being done for open source platforms either way.
This project seems very lofty. If Valve had so much trouble launching a custom Linux gaming box with their own distribution, I have less faith in this company. I feel like SteamOS/Stephenson's Rocket should have been optimized for the SmachZ as a collaborative effort rather than their own distro. I suppose time will tell, but at least there's a lot of work being done for open source platforms either way.
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Is a piece of shit.
I hope VALVe do something like this portable Console... and use EXCLUSIVE SteamOS
I hope VALVe do something like this portable Console... and use EXCLUSIVE SteamOS
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AMD lol? I can't even. Sorry, but even discrete AMD on an OK-ish PC is nothing on Linux. Some games are playable, yes, but otherwise it's an indie machine.
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I won't be backing - I'm against "crowd funding" on general principle - but it's certainly a product I'm interested in. Being able to play my Steam games on the go is an attractive idea... assuming this has the horse power and battery capacity to do justice to such a concept.
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Not something I would get myself since I'm not big on portable gaming, but it's always nice to see more options enter the Linux gaming space. It would be nice, though, if they maintained their own catalog of games the device will actually be able to run.
I'd be interested in the possibility to use Steam in-home streaming with this. Is that working on Linux yet (as a host)? That would be pretty cool.Yes, sometimes I lie on the couch and stream games from my Linux desktop on my Linux laptop.
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I won't be backing - I'm against "crowd funding" on general principleI haven't really thought through my position on crowd funding, since I don't have a ton of spare funds to be part of a crowd with. So, genuinely wondering, not snarking--what general principle? And, against its existence or against getting involved?
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Considering that I use a PS4 I can't say I'm terribly opposed to a proprietary OS sequestered on a dedicated device.
Radeon graphics support is so much more limited on Linux atm.
If Mesa and the drivers catch up I'd switch in a minute, regardless of the crazy stuff I'd have to do get Wine stuff to work with the "steam controller" built into it.
Is there a price shown for the actual release version? That could be either more or less than the backer price.
I could get a better experience switching my Vita to my USA account (Been using it for imports).
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Radeon graphics support is so much more limited on Linux atm.
If Mesa and the drivers catch up I'd switch in a minute, regardless of the crazy stuff I'd have to do get Wine stuff to work with the "steam controller" built into it.
Is there a price shown for the actual release version? That could be either more or less than the backer price.
I could get a better experience switching my Vita to my USA account (Been using it for imports).
Last edited by TheGZeus on 19 Oct 2016 at 5:52 pm UTC
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Another thing that bother me are the aesthetics and the layout... it does not seem very comfortable and easy to handle to me... and it generally just looks like a retro device IMO.
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Radeon graphics support is so much more limited on Linux atm.
If Mesa and the drivers catch up I'd switch in a minute, regardless of the crazy stuff I'd have to do get Wine stuff to work with the "steam controller" built into it.
Mesa and RX 480 is working great for me. Replaced GTX 970 and am happier.
If they put the new RX APU inside this I think it'd be a winner but I don't think it's out yet.
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Crowd funding.. or in words as it typically end up .. Pyramid scheme.
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Basically, crowd funding puts 100% of the risk on the customer while the customer gets nothing substantial in return. It's free money for the developer with zero accountability. We've seen this countless times with developers backing out of promises, releasing clearly unfinished games, or simply abandoning a project. It's a bad idea that needs to go away.I won't be backing - I'm against "crowd funding" on general principleI haven't really thought through my position on crowd funding, since I don't have a ton of spare funds to be part of a crowd with. So, genuinely wondering, not snarking--what general principle? And, against its existence or against getting involved?
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I'll load SteamOS on ot anyway.
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Crowd funding.. or in words as it typically end up .. Pyramid scheme.I don't think a pyramid scheme means what you think it means.
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For the kind of games I play, it'll probably be just fine. The price though is a bit steep compared to my current portable system, the PSVita. Though, I don't know if Sony will be releasing another portable console, so this may be my only chance to do pocketable gaming in the future. (Since the NX probably will be too big to pocket.)
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