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Quoting: commodore256Fuck Bernie, he's anti-freedom.

I live in a state dictated by DemocRAT rule [...]

Wow. I'm really suprised what extreme political sides some people here take. But words like "DemocRAT" are quite telling.

If you read the rest of what I said, I don't like Republicans either, I just couldn't think of a good pun for Republicans either. "Republican'ts" and "Republicunts" don't have a good ring to it. If you can think of a good pun, please tell me.


I don't like any political party, they all suck. I want gay farmers to be able to protect their weed crops with fully automatic weapons and pay a 0% tax.

Quoting: commodore256Car Registration fees are $200 and if you're poor and your car is worth $1,000, that's 20% of your car's value in registration. If you're poor and addicted to cigarettes have fun trying to get ahead in life when Cigarettes are $11 per pack.

Taxation on consumer goods & wages reach absurd levels not because taxation AS SUCH is a bad idea; it's because so called 'wealth creators' get away with contributing *nothing*, under the most fantastical and 'utopian' excuses. (We're supposed to believe that tax cuts contribute to the flourishing of society in general -- yeah, right...)

Where I live, under a religious conservative and VERY 'business friendly' administration, taxation on consumer goods is off the roof. Imported electronics, for example, get an approx. 80% markup -- just because. You wouldn't believe the amount they extort over alcoholic beverages. And this is the antithesis of 'democratic socialist' country.

The anti-taxation 'faith' in the US is not *that* deeply rooted; the American Revolution was ignited by resentment against taxation by a colonial MONARCH, not against a democratically controlled taxation regime. At the *very least*, Bernie's movement gives some hope as to the weakening of that faith. That's quite something, after decades of brainwashing.

-- oh, and in response to another person's claim that 'Super Bernie World' is a 'shameless ripoff': Please look up the definition of 'parody' and 'spoof'.

Quoting: commodore256I don't like any political party, they all suck. I want gay farmers to be able to protect their weed crops with fully automatic weapons and pay a 0% tax.

I believe they have that in Somalia.


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Quoting: wvstolzingTaxation on consumer goods & wages reach absurd levels not because taxation AS SUCH is a bad idea; it's because so called 'wealth creators' get away with contributing *nothing*, under the most fantastical and 'utopian' excuses. (We're supposed to believe that tax cuts contribute to the flourishing of society in general -- yeah, right...)

Taxation is theft, it's being taken under threat of kidnapping and if you resist kidnapping via defending yourself instead of running away, they kill you. I don't care who you're stealing from, it's still theft. I think trusting central planners and a monopoly on arbitration not to be corrupt is utopian.

Quoting: wvstolzingWhere I live, under a religious conservative and VERY 'business friendly' administration, taxation on consumer goods is off the roof. Imported electronics, for example, get an approx. 80% markup -- just because. You wouldn't believe the amount they extort over alcoholic beverages.

Like I said, I don't like republicans either. They blame it on RINOs and Neocons, but that's a no true Scotsman. Fuck Republicans too.

Quoting: wvstolzingThe anti-taxation 'faith' in the US is not *that* deeply rooted; the American Revolution was ignited by resentment against taxation by a colonial MONARCH, not against a democratically controlled taxation regime.

Democracy sucks, you're at the mercy of the 51%. What if 51% of people want to ban Dihydrogen Monoxide? Though a more down to earth example is Hollywood, the most "liberal" areas is for idea monopolization. Also, George Washington was a Tyrant, have you ever heard about the Whiskey Rebellion?

Taxation is theft, War is murder and Arrests are kidnapping. The only difference is thugs with guns say it isn't, but ethically, it is.

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Quoting: commodore256I don't like any political party, they all suck. I want gay farmers to be able to protect their weed crops with fully automatic weapons and pay a 0% tax.

I believe they have that in Somalia.

Somalia isn't government-less, Somalia is multiple governments trying force themselves to be the monopolistic government.

Meh, it's a fun retro game and the turtles look a bit like Mitch McConnell, so...

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Quoting: commodore256I don't like any political party, they all suck. I want gay farmers to be able to protect their weed crops with fully automatic weapons and pay a 0% tax.

I believe they have that in Somalia.

Somalia isn't government-less, Somalia is multiple governments trying force themselves to be the monopolistic government.

Well, yes. And what did you think would instantly happen the moment a region was government-less?
The war of each against all will always devolve into the war of warlords against warlords, and ultimately to some form of monopoly on violence, which will harness social resources to maintain itself. This generally improves the situation rather than making it worse, but that's not relevant to the basic fact: It will happen.
The only question is what form. The more popular voice in what is done with those social resources, the better. So representative democracies are better than dictatorships, less-fake representative democracies are better than more-fake ones (the US having about the fakest currently), co-operatives are better than corporations, representative democracies with proportional representation and a wide choice of political parties are better than ones with first-past-the-post or only two political parties, direct democracy is better than representative democracy.

Mind you, just because your dream no-government zero-taxation scenario would instantly disappear if it could somehow be created, doesn't mean it would be a good thing even if it could somehow be maintained. Zero taxation means near-zero social organization, which means savagery. Your weed farmer would never eat a banana again, or post nonsense on the internet, or travel more than 100 miles. No roads, no internet, almost no education or health care, no plumbing, no movies, few books, little electricity, bits of technology might exist in small enclaves but would be unable to spread or combine with the other bits. And, of course, widespread banditry and violence.

Quoting: Purple Library GuyWell, yes. And what did you think would instantly happen the moment a region was government-less?

I don't know, it hasn't happened in a western culture in contemporary age.

Quoting: Purple Library GuyZero taxation means near-zero social organization, which means savagery.

You act like that doesn't happen with cops today. I talked to a guy that was raped by a police chief. I don't expect good service from a monopoly.

Quoting: Purple Library GuyYour weed farmer would never eat a banana again, or post nonsense on the internet, or travel more than 100 miles. No roads, no internet, almost no education or health care, no plumbing, no movies, few books, little electricity, bits of technology might exist in small enclaves but would be unable to spread or combine with the other bits. And, of course, widespread banditry and violence.

You act like demand for those services like roads and internet and medicine and security wouldn't exist in absence of a monopoly on arbitration. We tried big Gooberment in the West, it was called Germany and East-Germany. We also tried direct-democracy in places Sanfran, they have propositions and look at their homeless populations and banning of plastic straws.

Quoting: commodore256Democracy sucks, you're at the mercy of the 51%.[...]

I repeat it's not a democracy, for fuck's sake please stop calling these governments the same name when they have nothing in common. In a democracy you vote for the laws directly, you and evrybody DO the politics, you don't vote for someone to do politics for you.

Quoting: commodore256Taxation is theft, it's being taken under threat of kidnapping and if you resist kidnapping via defending yourself instead of running away, they kill you. I don't care who you're stealing from, it's still theft. I think trusting central planners and a monopoly on arbitration not to be corrupt is utopian.

Awesome, this clarifies everything. Best wishes going forward.