Chiaki, a free and open source PlayStation Remote Play client adds PlayStation 5 support

Whoa that's a good news. When I can find a PS5 in store, I can use it to replace my PS4 pro then (I use it mostly in remote mode). Now, I just wish Sony would add 1440p support ... And with streaming of course, 1080p limit on ps4pro streaming is a bit of a pain (PS4 limit, not chiaki).
Now if we can stream in 4k, maybe can just stream in 4k and downscale at arrival too.

Also houray for dropping github. Now that it is in Evil's hands, I prefer to avoid having to use it ...


Last edited by 3zekiel on 29 December 2020 at 12:52 pm UTC

Nice!

Also houray for dropping github. Now that it is in Evil's hands, I prefer to avoid having to use it ...

But why was GitHub all good and nice and suddenly bad and evil overnight just because it is owned by another company?

Hating something just because it is owned by Microsoft is not very reasonable. And to go even further I find it to be very similar to racism except it's directed at companies instead of "races".

Personally I judge every thing individually, like Windows which I think it's a sh***y OS, and GitHub which I think is still a very good and nice platform (and only got better TBH since they had access to MS funds).
And there's many other good, and bad, products from Microsoft. Just as there are from any other company.

And just as the companies we dislike (e.g. Microsoft) can make good products, also companies that we like (e.g. Valve, Canonical, etc) can make bad products. Judging things based on who made them is *very* inaccurate - kind of like judging a book based on its cover. Sure it might give an initial impression and set some expectations (especially the latter) but that's just about it - which is not much.

While I generally agree with you, I own a portable the mouse/keyboard from Microsoft and use other MS products, I think history tells us that MS is not friendly towards us (The Linux community). Things seem to have changed in recent years, but faith and trust has yet to be recovered, they actually need to gain it, from previous attacks and harm it was caused.

GitHub is a good product, but it isn't FOSS, and it's already too big as well. Having so many FOSS projects, and so much code, in MS hands makes me weary. Honestly, I think FOSS community should relay less on that kind of companies/tools that aren't necessarily open. For example, they could have their repos in places like sourcehut (the ui is horrible btw) or, one that I really like, codeberg.org

Nice!
I used Steam Remote Play quite a lot with Steam Link and I enjoyed it very much. For me it was one of the strong points of Steam.
It will definetely come in helpful when I will eventually join the console gaming peasantry (just joking, no offence intended)... once the scalping overlords deem that they made enough well-deserved and hard-worked-for profits and through their endless generosity deem me worthy enough to bestow upon me the privilege of being able to buy a PS5 at MSRP from a real store.

But a PC is still the priority for me. PS5 is just secondary

Also houray for dropping github. Now that it is in Evil's hands, I prefer to avoid having to use it ...

But why was GitHub all good and nice and suddenly bad and evil overnight just because it is owned by another company?

Hating something just because it is owned by Microsoft is not very reasonable. And to go even further I find it to be very similar to racism except it's directed at companies instead of "races".

Personally I judge every thing individually, like Windows which I think it's a sh***y OS, and GitHub which I think is still a very good and nice platform (and only got better TBH since they had access to MS funds).
And there's many other good, and bad, products from Microsoft. Just as there are from any other company.

And just as the companies we dislike (e.g. Microsoft) can make good products, also companies that we like (e.g. Valve, Canonical, etc) can make bad products. Judging things based on who made them is *very* inaccurate - kind of like judging a book based on its cover. Sure it might give an initial impression and set some expectations (especially the latter) but that's just about it - which is not much.

Sentence was kinda made to be exaggerated ;p
However, you have to remember that Microsoft is a specialist of EEE (Embrace Extend Extinguish) strategy, so avoiding them and having back up plans still makes a lot of sense.
Honestly, I was not so fond of github before either, being an American company and all. Those companies tend to not respect even the bare minimum in term of data privacy, and Microsoft (and their track record concerning that) acquiring them just made my worries that much worst. Boycotting thoses companies as much as possible is a good way to show disapproval to the way our data is handled.
I much prefer that open source projects use self hosted git, or smthg hosted in Europe by a European/Swiss company which are under much more privacy minded jurisdiction. Same reason that I use Qwant as a search engine.

I still use Steam because not much better choices, and since I do pay for it, I tend to think they are probably nicer in that respect ...

Now of course, even a broken clock gives the right time twice a day, and Microsoft can have good products, but I still am overly wary of them.

Wish they would add ps3 support because sonys program doesnt work on windows let alone wine but id imaging that would be to much of a hassle for little reward

Wish they would add ps3 support because sonys program doesnt work on windows let alone wine but id imaging that would be to much of a hassle for little reward

For PS3 I don't remember that there were much games running with remote play? But it would be a nice feature yes.

Otherwise, if your PC is powerful enough, I recommend rpcs3 emulator, it works quite well for me.

Otherwise, if your PC is powerful enough, I recommend rpcs3 emulator, it works quite well for me.

RPCS3 was the reason i got a PS3 played some games and really liked them but preformance was poor with somegames (about Version 0.0.6-7830) at the time and getting games was hard and games i wanted to play didnt work so i bought a ps3 because it was easier. Best thing that happened was when i was buying games from gamestop's website and the system bugged and had to only pay $0.24 i still dont know how this happened


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Wish they would add ps3 support because sonys program doesnt work on windows let alone wine but id imaging that would be to much of a hassle for little reward

Perhaps you've already seen this, but there does seem to be an implementation of the PS3 streaming protocol available. Adding it to Chiaki might be a fun project for someone?

https://github.com/thestr4ng3r/chiaki/issues/162

Does it work with PS4 and no internet? (using only local connection)

A friend of mine want to use his old notebook as a monitor for his ps4, and this program could help him.

Does it work with PS4 and no internet? (using only local connection)

A friend of mine want to use his old notebook as a monitor for his ps4, and this program could help him.

It only needs a local network, so ps4 and pc need to be able to find each other.
Your linux firewall might be an issue (it is on my tumbleweed install).

Hating something just because it is owned by Microsoft is not very reasonable. And to go even further I find it to be very similar to racism except it's directed at companies instead of "races".

No. This is fundamentally wrong on a stack of levels, and indeed a somewhat offensive accusation.

First: Corporations are not persons, whatever their people may have managed to shoehorn into our legal systems. They are not the kind of entities that can bear rights, let alone equal ones. There is nothing wrong with hating them or being prejudiced against them either as a whole category or one by one. It isn't like racism any more than hating Harlequin Romances, or some particular Harlequin Romance, is like racism. People get equal rights, people should not be discriminated against on various bases, corporations do. not. count.

Second: Corporations are led by individual people and have different institutional cultures. It is possible to assess both the individual leaders and tendencies in the institutional cultures. So when it comes to deciding to hate a company, it is much more like deciding to hate an individual; you may hate a company because you assess its leaders as evil people, or you may hate a company because it seems to consistently do lousy things due to general policies and approaches, even if various different people are involved.

Third: Corporations are entities which have in common an objective to suck profits out of the world for their shareholders and top executives while giving as little as possible in return, whether to customers, employees or the countries they are embedded in. There is some wiggle room for style, but if they are publicly traded and large that wiggle room is small--to the extent that a corporation could be said to have a "personality", all of them almost inevitably have a psychopathic one. Technically, corporations can't be "evil", or even "amoral", because that kind of category just doesn't really apply to a legal fiction any more than "rights" or "racism". But to the extent that a corporation's actions can be mapped to anything "likeable" or "hateable", any given one is far more likely to be worthy of hate than liking. Disallowing negative references to things dedicated to institutionalized psychopathy is a bad idea.

Fourth: Microsoft in specific is in my opinion probably not that much more hateworthy than an average giant corporation . . . right now. But it is still maintaining a monopoly, which is inherently a bad thing. And anyone who knows Microsoft's history at all well is aware that it certainly used to be about as evil as they come. In the old days, Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer did masses of things that were treacherous, probably illegal, and very bad for technology all at the same time, in order to gain and maintain their monopoly on desktop computing and office suites and try for the browser. Some argue that Bill has changed, but in those days he was an evil man. And they spread a vile institutional culture through the company, such that you could pretty much count on Microsoft's actions to be sneaky, underhanded, aggressive, and calculated to enhance their monopoly by damaging computing and consumers. Microsoft was about as evil as it is possible for a corporation to be without actually promoting infant mortality (like Nestle with baby formula in the Third World). So I think for those of us who have been around long enough to remember, you should cut us some slack for being slow to forgive. And if you're too young to remember and/or don't know much about their shenanigans from back then, you should just bloody well trust those of us who do know. It's not like they've ever done anything much to make up for those days.

Otherwise, if your PC is powerful enough, I recommend rpcs3 emulator, it works quite well for me.

RPCS3 was the reason i got a PS3 played some games and really liked them but preformance was poor with somegames (about Version 0.0.6-7830) at the time and getting games was hard and games i wanted to play didnt work so i bought a ps3 because it was easier. Best thing that happened was when i was buying games from gamestop's website and the system bugged and had to only pay $0.24 i still dont know how this happened

Ah yes, some games still do not play nice. I do have my PS3 still around for that. I don't know if there is a list somewhere of streamable games on PS3, it's true in those case I would have some use for it too

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There's not much to add, but I'll do it anyway. A sort of "TL;DR", although not reading that post would be a shame:

Judging a person by their actions is fine, and is not discrimination. So even if you buy into the ridiculous idea that corporations are people and should be treated with the same respect, you are definitely allowed (if not morally compelled) to judge them by their actions and act upon them. Usually "act" means "speak out and boycott", but it can also mean things like "report to the authorities" if you suspect their actions to be downright illegal.

Wow, comparing avoiding companies to racism. Just... wow.

What I mean when I say "it's like racism" is that if you hate a product just because it's Microsoft, is just the same as hating a person just because he's black.

No. One is hating a corporation for their actions and the other is hating a person for their skin colour. Surely you can see how this is a false equivalence.

What I mean when I say "it's like racism" is that if you hate a product just because it's Microsoft, is just the same as hating a person just because he's black.

Hating someone based on ethnicity/colour/etc no matter how good-hearted and/or respectable they might be, is psychologically the same process as hating a product no matter how good it is just because it's made by a certain company.
In those cases, the hate starts from the moment the decided factor is known (ethnicity / company) and before futher details (personality / usefullness) even enters the equation.
They both have the same psychological root.

Sure, the effect is not the same. Obviously hating a company is not nearly as bad as hating an individual - and doing it does not mean it's directed at people (or at least not any more than the decision-makers). But that was not my point. My point was the diagnostic, not the symptom.
Maybe I was just not clear with my statement.

Still an error. It's not about the product. Nobody's hating the product, they're just hating (and more importantly, mistrusting) the company. That mistrust is based on a long track record of untrustworthiness. If a con man wants to sell you a bridge and you refuse because they're a con man, it's not because you hate bridges, it's because you think the con man is going to cheat you. And if your enemy is selling perfectly good chocolate cakes and you refuse to buy one, it's not because you hate chocolate cakes, it's because you don't want to give your enemy money.

So clearly, if someone who was OK with Github before is now against Github because Microsoft owns it, it's not because they have changed their feelings about the inherent nature of Github. It is because they distrust Microsoft and so fear that Microsoft will use Github in a baneful way, and so it's better to get out from under any lockin or whatever that they might impose. And it's because they hate Microsoft and want MS to fail to make money or dominate markets.

Your analogy is utterly wrong, and it leads to completely mistaken and counterproductive prescriptions. Taking you seriously means letting companies, political parties and other organizations get away with anything and never calling them to account. It means buying more products from a company after their milk with Malamine poisoned your children.


Last edited by Purple Library Guy on 31 December 2020 at 4:44 pm UTC