NVIDIA have revealed the GeForce RTX 3060 Ti officially today, along with a release date of December 2 and it sounds like quite an awesome card.
Hitting performance levels (and above!) comparable to the RTX 2080 SUPER, which for the price is absolutely amazing at $399 / £369 which is far less than the 2080 SUPER. When it becomes available on December 2 this will be as custom boards including stock-clocked and factory overclocked models from various vendors as well as a Founders Edition direct from NVIDIA.
Want some specs? Here's a comparison between the models of the 3000 series:
| GEFORCE RTX 3090 |
GEFORCE RTX 3080 |
GEFORCE RTX 3070 |
GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti |
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|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| GPU Engine Specs: | NVIDIA CUDA® Cores | 10496 | 8704 | 5888 | 4864 |
| Boost Clock (GHz) | 1.70 | 1.71 | 1.73 | 1.67 | |
| Memory Specs: | Standard Memory Config | 24 GB GDDR6X | 10 GB GDDR6X | 8 GB GDDR6 | 8 GB GDDR6 |
| Memory Interface Width | 384-bit | 320-bit | 256-bit | 256-bit | |
| Technology Support: | Ray Tracing Cores | 2nd Generation | 2nd Generation | 2nd Generation | 2nd Generation |
| Tensor Cores | 3rd Generation | 3rd Generation | 3rd Generation | 3rd Generation | |
| NVIDIA Architecture | Ampere | Ampere | Ampere | Ampere | |
| PCI Express Gen 4 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | |
| NVIDIA G-SYNC | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | |
| Vulkan RT API, OpenGL 4.6 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | |
| HDMI 2.1 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | |
| DisplayPort 1.4a | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | |
| NVIDIA Encoder | 7th Generation | 7th Generation | 7th Generation | 7th Generation | |
| NVIDIA Decoder | 5th Generation | 5th Generation | 5th Generation | 5th Generation | |
| Display Support: | Maximum Digital Resolution | 7680x4320 | 7680x4320 | 7680x4320 | 7680x4320 |
| Standard Display Connectors | HDMI 2.1, 3x DisplayPort 1.4a | HDMI 2.1, 3x DisplayPort 1.4a | HDMI 2.1, 3x DisplayPort 1.4a | HDMI 2.1, 3x DisplayPort 1.4a | |
| Multi Monitor | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | |
| HDCP | 2.3 | 2.3 | 2.3 | 2.3 | |
| Founders Edition Card Dimensions: | Length | 12.3" (313 mm) | 11.2" (285 mm) | 9.5" (242 mm) | 9.5" (242 mm) |
| Width | 5.4" (138 mm) | 4.4" (112 mm) | 4.4" (112 mm) | 4.4" (112 mm) | |
| Slot | 3-Slot | 2-Slot | 2-Slot | 2-Slot | |
| Founders Edition Thermal Power Specs: | Maximum GPU Temperature (in C) | 93 | 93 | 93 | 93 |
| Graphics Card Power (W) | 350 | 320 | 220 | 200 | |
| Required System Power (W) (2) | 750 | 750 | 650 | 600 | |
| Supplementary Power Connectors | 2x PCIe 8-pin (adapter to 1x 12-pin included) |
2x PCIe 8-pin (adapter to 1x 12-pin included) |
1x PCIe 8-pin (adapter to 1x 12-pin included) |
1x PCIe 8-pin (adapter to 1x 12-pin included) |
As long as you're not going for 4K gaming, the GeForce RTS 3060 Ti seems like a winner, and would likely be exactly what I would be going for if I was going to be building a system. At 1440p and 1080p gaming, it seems ideal. NVIDIA drivers generally have good Linux support too, and we expect NVIDIA to have a fresh driver up either today or tomorrow to formally add support for it on Linux - like they always do with a new GPU release. We're never left waiting around.
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Going by Phoronix benchmarks on Linux, it seems like performance winner. I get that technology moves on quickly but even so, it still slightly amazes me just how much performance and price has come along with cards like this.
The real question is: just how fast will stock vanish this time? It may be releasing on December 2, doesn't mean many people will actually be able to get one though like the last few new GPU release.
If you do buy one, NVIDIA are throwing in one whole year of GeForce NOW Founder membership too which is open to both new and existing GFN customers to sweeten the deal. With their plans to actually support Linux with GFN in the browser, that sounds good.
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And the reason is that AMD don't recommend using their PRO package, they recommend using Mesa. So it's not surprising distros don't want to spend time on packaging it. AMD plan to deprecate PRO altogether over time. Percentage of cases where PRO is needed is gradually decreasing and distros focus their efforts on the common cases that users actually need.
So Nvidia doesn't win here. They are only losing because they are stuck with their blob and AMD are moving to fully open driver.
Last edited by Shmerl on 7 December 2020 at 9:29 am UTC
So Nvidia doesn't win here. They are only losing because they are stuck with their blob and AMD are moving to fully open driver.
Last edited by Shmerl on 7 December 2020 at 9:29 am UTC
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Quoting: PJBut I've given you the reason why some people (like me) say that Nvidia is easier to maintain for average Joe.
But at least we've agreeded that for some users AMDGPU-PRO are a must (to get a pro app support , opencl etc).
And here's the deal - while you have repos for Nvidia which make installing drivers a breeze you don't have something along those lines for AMDGPU-PRO.
So steps are really not the same.
Yes, I can do a manual driver installation via command line. Yes, I can do driver uninstall and reinstall after a kernel update. But should I as a desktop user? I don't think so. And I haven't had to mess with it while using Nvindia for years.
And mind I'm not talking for a fanboy perspective. I don't care whether my system has a team red or green gpu. I care about about performance and how hassle free it is. And at this point if you're a creative that does not want to mess with system Nvidia IMO wins. No matter how much I cheers for AMD and for adoption of Wayland.
The discussion is moving more to how "average" is Joe at this point. By experience I can say that an average Joe that requires some specific components (a.k.a. OpenCL) will probably be very used to dealing with the command line as many times he will have to move away from the default package that your distro ships.
Either way, as I have been saying many times already: how easy is one or another to install will completely depend on your distro. And for most of the users and distros, driver management for Nvidia or AMD is pretty much the same. IMO, the easiness of driver installation for one or another GPU doesn't have any weight on the GPU selection with the present driver status.
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slaapliedje Dec 8, 2020
Quoting: x_wingIt isn't so much the install, as you do that once. It is the updates that get more complicated when it is one command (apt update && apt upgrade) vs having to pull in git stuff, compile, etc for new mesa libs or possibly kernel. If they are not packaged (as most distros will not package mesa git) then it becomes more tedious when a feature or bug fix or performance tweaks are added.Quoting: PJBut I've given you the reason why some people (like me) say that Nvidia is easier to maintain for average Joe.
But at least we've agreeded that for some users AMDGPU-PRO are a must (to get a pro app support , opencl etc).
And here's the deal - while you have repos for Nvidia which make installing drivers a breeze you don't have something along those lines for AMDGPU-PRO.
So steps are really not the same.
Yes, I can do a manual driver installation via command line. Yes, I can do driver uninstall and reinstall after a kernel update. But should I as a desktop user? I don't think so. And I haven't had to mess with it while using Nvindia for years.
And mind I'm not talking for a fanboy perspective. I don't care whether my system has a team red or green gpu. I care about about performance and how hassle free it is. And at this point if you're a creative that does not want to mess with system Nvidia IMO wins. No matter how much I cheers for AMD and for adoption of Wayland.
The discussion is moving more to how "average" is Joe at this point. By experience I can say that an average Joe that requires some specific components (a.k.a. OpenCL) will probably be very used to dealing with the command line as many times he will have to move away from the default package that your distro ships.
Either way, as I have been saying many times already: how easy is one or another to install will completely depend on your distro. And for most of the users and distros, driver management for Nvidia or AMD is pretty much the same. IMO, the easiness of driver installation for one or another GPU doesn't have any weight on the GPU selection with the present driver status.
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There are third party repos for Mesa usually depending on the distribution or simply Mesa master packages in the main repo itself. If you are on a distro which doesn't have it, you can figure out how to build things yourself. Because you actually can, unlike with Nvidia. It's not AMD or Nvidia issue at all I think.
Last edited by Shmerl on 8 December 2020 at 11:02 pm UTC
Last edited by Shmerl on 8 December 2020 at 11:02 pm UTC
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slaapliedje Dec 9, 2020
Quoting: ShmerlThere are third party repos for Mesa usually depending on the distribution or simply Mesa master packages in the main repo itself. If you are on a distro which doesn't have it, you can figure out how to build things yourself. Because you actually can, unlike with Nvidia. It's not AMD or Nvidia issue at all I think.Granted nvidia doesn't use mesa, so doesn't need to do that at all. There are pros and cons to this of course.
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