Plague Inc: The Cure DLC coming in early 2021 and free until COVID-19 is under control

the Chinese coronavirus

Parroting this xenophobic name invented by American right-wing politicians really underlines your ignorance.

The term "Chinese coronavirus" is no more xenophobic than any other common term for illnesses based on their point of origin like Spanish flu, West Nile virus, Rocky Mountain spotted fever, Middle East respiratory syndrome, Zika fever, German measles, Ebola, and dozens more.

As for mask use, there is actually no good evidence that it can stop or even slow the spread of influenza like the Chinese coronavirus.

Plenty of studies that show that masks have a significant effect if used correctly. Here's one I read recently. They don't stop the spread completely, but they are useful. Good thing wearing masks isn't much of a problem for most of us.

the Chinese coronavirus

Parroting this xenophobic name invented by American right-wing politicians really underlines your ignorance.

The term "Chinese coronavirus" is no more xenophobic than any other common term for illnesses based on their point of origin like Spanish flu, West Nile virus, Rocky Mountain spotted fever, Middle East respiratory syndrome, Zika fever, German measles, Ebola, and dozens more.

Then why is this term never used by anyone in the medical professions? Or the media, unless they're pushing a certain brand of politics and trying to make a point? This can't be said about any of the other names you mentioned.

Of course you can call it the Chinese virus if you want, but that will result in some of us taking you less seriously.


Last edited by tuubi on 25 December 2020 at 8:30 pm UTC

Agreed. My only point was that China used to be isolationist. https://www.gavinmenzies.net/ has some interesting books about why / when they became that way. But for sure, not now. Don't have any other explanation to why it works that way in the game. Bug?

Ah, fair enough, apologies if I misinterpreted you. I think Plague Inc. actually does have pretty good models when looking at single countries, it's just in the "country to country spread" that I feel like their models are less-than-realistic based on what we've seen over the past year. But maybe I just have bad luck getting my pathogens to spread.

Agreed. My only point was that China used to be isolationist. https://www.gavinmenzies.net/ has some interesting books about why / when they became that way. But for sure, not now. Don't have any other explanation to why it works that way in the game. Bug?

Ah, fair enough, apologies if I misinterpreted you. I think Plague Inc. actually does have pretty good models when looking at single countries, it's just in the "country to country spread" that I feel like their models are less-than-realistic based on what we've seen over the past year. But maybe I just have bad luck getting my pathogens to spread.

Ha, yeah I think the best spread method is to have it infect birds. It definitely is an interesting strategy game, I should play it some more.

For sure China isn't isolationist anymore, they basically make everything for the world at this point, and then copy and sell designs locally to themselves (and others). Crazy how much the world now depends on their factories.

Finally, China. China wiped the disease out within their borders. They eliminated it, before any vaccine arrived. They're already back to economic growth and living normally. Because they didn't fuck around.

China claims they wiped the virus out, but they were also the ones claiming early on that there was no risk of person-to-person transmission despite the fact that they perfectly well knew the truth. They deliberately kept the rest of world in the dark for months about the potential dangers of the Chinese coronavirus, so why are you trusting them now?

Here's a timeline.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/04/28/the-covid-19-chronology-from-hell/
Show me when your months happened.

As for mask use, there is actually no good evidence that it can stop or even slow the spread of influenza like the Chinese coronavirus. There are actually studies going back for years that prove this, but when it came to this latest "emergency", governments operated on the logic of "We must do something" even if that "something" isn't actually effective. Case in point, there has been high mask and social distancing compliance in my state since at least August of this year, and yet things are supposedly worse now than they were before all the draconian measures were instituted. As the saying goes, if masks, then why aren't they working?

They're working pretty well about everywhere else, so I guess your state must be doing something pretty damn incompetent. Or perhaps the people making those claims haven't quite twigged to the incubation period lag, so they think that if they institute a measure it should stop the growth in cases right now, rather than in two weeks. Or, maybe you're just listening to liars.

Side note: You said "influenza like the Chinese coronavirus". This is an ambiguous phrase to parse. Did you mean that masks don't stop the spread of influenza, just as they don't stop the spread of the coronavirus? (In which case you're just wrong)
Or did you mean that masks don't stop the spread of influenza such as the coronavirus, ie is it meant to be a quiet allegation that Covid is a form of influenza? If so you're doubly wrong. 'Cause, like, it isn't you know. Coronaviruses are a different bunch from flu viruses.