For those of you with money to burn who want a new GPU, perhaps the latest from NVIDIA will catch your eye? They've introduced a new model of the GeForce RTX 3080. It's a small but noticeable upgrade to the original, and only available to a select few partners right now
The bump not only ups the memory from 10GB to 12GB but also goes from 8704 to 8960 CUDA Cores, and you're also getting a memory bus jump from 320-bit to 384-bit. You're going to need just a little bit more power for it too, as NVIDIA say it needs 350 watts compared with the 320 on the 10GB model.
While it's nice to see new models - is anyone even going to be able to buy one? Even if you can, will it be a reasonable price? Probably a big no to both. You also wouldn't really know it exists, since NVIDIA for some reason decided to keep this release on the quiet side. It's sad to see yet another ridiculously expensive high-end model being made, when there's such a shortage everywhere on all models.
I'm still rocking a RTX 2080 Ti which is thankfully rather powerful so I don't need to upgrade the main GamingOnLinux machine GPU for some time to come.
however must be use this tool (ukuu fork) for more easily installation process
https://github.com/bkw777/mainline
Last edited by mrdeathjr on 11 January 2022 at 3:04 pm UTC
xpander@archlinux ~ $ nvidia-smi | grep Version
| NVIDIA-SMI 510.39.01 Driver Version: 510.39.01 CUDA Version: 11.6 |
so far seems to work without issues, but im still on X11 cause of my prefered DE.
In other words, I lucked out and did have the money to burn.
For everyone less lucky, I also wouldn't recommend it at the moment.
A friend of mine "reserved" a card 1.5 years ago for an almost normal price and finally got it last week - I think that is the most reasonable approach right now.
thank goodness I'm not in the market for a new GPU
No worry, it made with rare unubtamion, one of the rarest metals on this planet, so chances of finding one in the wild are slim
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But, its not so much a problem lets see where Nvidia stand vs the competition..
AMD = PS5 (probably PS6)
AMD = Xbox one X
AMD = Xbox one s
AMD = Google Stadia
AMD = Valve Steam Deck
AMD = AYA Neo
AMD = GPD WIN MAX
AMD = ONEXPLAYER AMD
The majority rest of gaming devices are Intel iGPU. In fact with Intel XE on the way, and lots of excitement around RDNA2 APU's with 3D-V-cache + DDR5 i don't actually see a reason at all to get excited about Nvidia releases.
And finally, if this market keeps on being stacked towards the ultra high end then lets not forget how value orientated (and compatible) xbox game pass is and how cheap an xbox one S is currently sitting around $250/£250 which can do 1080p/120 , 1440p-60, 4k-30 with a library of hundreds of free AAA games.
edit* i forgot to add to the list the new co-developed AMD-Samsung Gaming Phone / Tablets...
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This shortage stuff has been lasting rather a long time now. I'm finding myself wondering if it's really about all the original causes any more, or if the situation brought it to the attention of certain corporations that they are an oligopoly and constraining supply some is collectively making them gigabucks in windfall profits.As a retailer myself, albeit in a different industry (and not USA), I can confirm the shortages are very real.
Most of the manufacturers have been out-of-stock on their most popular products to the point one set of products we ordered back in april last year, that had an estimated delivery of june. We didn't get those products until december when the manufacturer was finally able to import them.
In addition, what hasn't helped is lots of containers all arriving at the same time - and the way the docks work.
As a brief simplified description, imagine you've got stacks of containers lined up in a row of 10 for example, the docks will ship out container stacks #1 to #4 leaving the rest still sitting there, untouched. The next day they'll replace #1 to #4 with new stacks while unloading stack #5. The following day they'll start back at stack #1, leaving stacks #6 through #10 untouched.
What happens in the remaining stacks end up "sitting" until eventually they clear enough that they can get to it, this process simply loops.
It also depends on when the people who are receiving the containers (the manufacturers) are able to pay the fees on the containers and send a truck to go pick it up, if your container is at the bottom and the guys above you haven't picked theirs up yet, you may not be able to get yours yet either.
Then there's the other issue, COVID restrictions. For example US customs holding all inbound deliveries for 25 days minimum, including personal deliveries at the border before releasing it back to couriers etc under a COVID policy.
It's really annoying and stupid, but it is what is happening and as retailers there's nothing we can do.
As for costs, we've seen all our manufacturers/wholesalers bump their prices and the cost to us as a business increased. For now we're still "taking" the hit before pushing it to customers (losing around 35-40% per sale leaving us with almost no profit) but at some point we will have to increase our prices also unfortunately, but I wanted to get xmas out of the way first.
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This shortage stuff has been lasting rather a long time now. I'm finding myself wondering if it's really about all the original causes any more, or if the situation brought it to the attention of certain corporations that they are an oligopoly and constraining supply some is collectively making them gigabucks in windfall profits.
From what I understand, building new factories is a long process and they'll be only ready by the end of this year to address the disbalance in demand and supply.
I think all of them are building new ones. TSMC, Samsung and Intel. At least the new TSMC one is expected to launch in 2022.
Last edited by Shmerl on 11 January 2022 at 11:02 pm UTC
Do I want a new GPU? Yes. My 1060 is starting to show its age.
Do I want a new GPU that cost more than any of my previous PCs did in total? Nope.
And a third bonus question: Do I want another GPU where I'm relying on proprietary driver support? Nope...
Guess I just have a nasty suspicious mind. I'm pretty sure it is happening in the grocery sector--the big grocery chains say they're jacking prices because of higher expenses and supply chain issues, which do exist--but they're jacking prices more than the increase in costs, which is why those companies are posting record profits. So I figured the same trick would work here, probably better . . . but if they're really working on beefing up supply, I guess not.This shortage stuff has been lasting rather a long time now. I'm finding myself wondering if it's really about all the original causes any more, or if the situation brought it to the attention of certain corporations that they are an oligopoly and constraining supply some is collectively making them gigabucks in windfall profits.
From what I understand, building new factories is a long process and they'll be only ready by the end of this year to address the disbalance in demand and supply.
I think all of them are building new ones. TSMC, Samsung and Intel. At least the new TSMC one is expected to launch in 2022.
Upping the memory is one thing, but this appears to effectively be a different GPU. Why not just change the name? It's only going to cause confusion for people thinking they're buying one thing and ending up with another, especially in aftermarket sales.
That's the idea, this release is just a shady way to officially increase the 3080 MSRP. The original 3080 will cease production for now on.
Guess I just have a nasty suspicious mind. I'm pretty sure it is happening in the grocery sector--the big grocery chains say they're jacking prices because of higher expenses and supply chain issues, which do exist--but they're jacking prices more than the increase in costs, which is why those companies are posting record profits. So I figured the same trick would work here, probably better . . . but if they're really working on beefing up supply, I guess not.This shortage stuff has been lasting rather a long time now. I'm finding myself wondering if it's really about all the original causes any more, or if the situation brought it to the attention of certain corporations that they are an oligopoly and constraining supply some is collectively making them gigabucks in windfall profits.
From what I understand, building new factories is a long process and they'll be only ready by the end of this year to address the disbalance in demand and supply.
I think all of them are building new ones. TSMC, Samsung and Intel. At least the new TSMC one is expected to launch in 2022.
This is where late stage poorly regulated Capitalism brought us in my opinion. The reality is a mockery of the simplistic and illusory Capitalist ideals of supply and demand, competing on quality, and consumer choice. What is that I hear? Is it Kurt Vonnegut laughing maniacally from his grave?
At this point it feels like the closest I'm going to get to a graphics card upgrade is an NFT of a 3070 jpeg.
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