3,500 games now Steam Deck Verified or Playable

Cool, is it just me or isnt there verification 100% correct.
Would be cool if protondb was included somehow, we need Steam addons. Showing prices in sek is something i really want, and implement a protondb rating on every store page.
I dont know how they verify. But doing an automatisation would’t be that hard. Does the game start, does it play, when does it crash and if it crash make the user add a comment and collect the hardware, proton version and so on. This is basicly how proton db works.

Getting of topic here, great to see more titels anyway


Last edited by Zelox on 22 June 2022 at 9:59 am UTC

Brawlhalla makes quite sense to be verified. Why wasn't it already?

Still notice that the unsupported games in my library are full of disappointments.

Who wouldn’t love to play Elite Dangerous on their Steam Deck?

Who wouldn’t love to play Elite Dangerous on their Steam Deck?

Last I heard ED was playable on deck. And no, it would not be my choice for a deck game.

Looking forward to comments about those few games that slipped through the cracks of the verification system and somehow don't work as expected according to their rating. Best, most interesting and original sentiments, and very important to note since by all indications Valve is an evil and greedy company which lies to their customers (for profit!) at every opportunity. /s!

🤣🤣🤣 Sorry, couldn't help myself.

3500 games with console-like experience. Many more with PC-like experience. It's incredible!

When it comes to things working on Proton, I am very pleased to find that Galactic Civilizations III, which I bought ages ago hoping it would work in Wine but could never get to work, turns out to work perfectly with Proton on my new laptop. On my desktop I get the launcher and then when I try to start the game it fails with a weird little launcher error message (bloody launchers), but maybe now that I've experienced that it can work I'll try some fiddling.

This is actually the first game I have ever run on Proton; all my other stuff is native (or, well, DOSBox in a couple of cases)

implement a protondb rating on every store page.

One option:
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/439657-protondb-steamplay-integration

As I continue to wait for my order email, I'm curious: have the ratings shifted to be more in line with peoples' expectations? I.e., Verified being more like ProtonDB's Platinum (stable, no problems, basically bug free), rather than "technically checks off all the boxes Valve laid out on the criteria page".

As I continue to wait for my order email, I'm curious: have the ratings shifted to be more in line with peoples' expectations? I.e., Verified being more like ProtonDB's Platinum (stable, no problems, basically bug free), rather than "technically checks off all the boxes Valve laid out on the criteria page".

So far both the Verified and Playable for me have been equivalent to ProtonDB's Platinum.(Steams drop from Verified to Playable is if you have to use the touchscreen or on-screen keyboard to do anything, or it shows playstation/keyboard prompts instead of steam/xbox prompts). And Unsupported usually means launch it with proton-GE or check protonDB for a tweak(or find out on protonDB that there's no workaround and it's just EAC hell).

I don't understand this number. There are 9800 games on Steam that natively support Linux. I understand the verified status having more to do than just the game being playable, but shouldn't playable include all those 9800 native titles by default?

implement a protondb rating on every store page.

One option:
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/439657-protondb-steamplay-integration

Thanks for this, no idea this was a thing.

I don't understand this number. There are 9800 games on Steam that natively support Linux. I understand the verified status having more to do than just the game being playable, but shouldn't playable include all those 9800 native titles by default?

No, absolutely not. Matter of expectations.
There are quite a lot of games that work perfect on Linux but need fixes for handhelds in general or deck in specific (often the same would apply on windows)

Examples:
Games with very small text.
Games that get confused with any input you throw at them.
Games that have issues after waking up from sleep.
Games that show totally wrong control glyphs while playing.

etc...

One current example for me is Talos principle.
You can absolutely play it on Deck. It's beautiful, there is a great default controller layout defined, even with nice gyro settings. BUT: When I put it to sleep and wake it up, sound has gone and won't come back until I restart the game. And the ingame control glyphs are all just fancy rectangles. For me, it's still enjoyable, but Valve can't seriously call that ready for consumers.
Another example is Psychonauts. I may have to retest at some point, but last time I tried it, it would simply not react on any input.
There were quite a few other native titles that I couldn't get running. Some of them were fixed by forcing windows version with proton, some weren't. Yet, there are so many games that do run great, I just switch games and may come back to these games later...


Last edited by const on 22 June 2022 at 10:26 pm UTC

Looking forward to comments about those few games that slipped through the cracks of the verification system and somehow don't work as expected according to their rating. Best, most interesting and original sentiments, and very important to note since by all indications Valve is an evil and greedy company which lies to their customers (for profit!) at every opportunity. /s!

🤣🤣🤣 Sorry, couldn't help myself.

3500 games with console-like experience. Many more with PC-like experience. It's incredible!

Fantasy Grounds and Fantasy Grounds Unity... FG is Verified and it is completely jacked. FGU works, but only after setting it to native, the windows installer literally cased my Deck to crash.

I'm curious: have the ratings shifted to be more in line with peoples' expectations?

No, they haven't changed their criteria for rating games as Verified.

They outline it here.

Here's some of the text from the above link:

Games that check these four boxes are Deck Verified.

Input
The title should have full controller support, use appropriate controller input icons, and automatically bring up the on-screen keyboard when needed.

Display
The game should support the default resolution of Steam Deck (1280x800 or 1280x720), have good default settings, and text should be legible.

Seamlessness
The title shouldn’t display any compatibility warnings, and if there’s a launcher it should be navigable with a controller.

System Support
If running through Proton, the game and all its middleware should be supported by Proton. This includes anti-cheat support.

EDIT: Further explanation of all the ratings can be found here


Last edited by wit_as_a_riddle on 23 June 2022 at 12:19 pm UTC

I'm curious: have the ratings shifted to be more in line with peoples' expectations?

No, they haven't changed their criteria for rating games as Verified.

Right, I know the criteria, thanks; but I remember there was a big outcry when the Deck first came out that games which were—according to Valve's definitions—Verified or Playable still had issues like crashes, unwatchable cutscenes, etc.. Regardless of what the formal criteria say, people generally expect a Verified game to be basically flawless*. So my question was, whether or not Valve have changed the formal criteria, do they seem to have informally changed the process such that e.g. Verified games are more in line with what people expect rather than just their own criteria. (Ticktok's reply above seems to indicate, informally, that the answer might be "yes.")

*Like, the Verified criteria say nothing about stability, so a Verified game could crash every 10 minutes and still perfectly fit the criteria for being Verified; but most people would expect a Verified game not to do that.

I don't understand this number. There are 9800 games on Steam that natively support Linux. I understand the verified status having more to do than just the game being playable, but shouldn't playable include all those 9800 native titles by default?

No, absolutely not. Matter of expectations.
There are quite a lot of games that work perfect on Linux but need fixes for handhelds in general or deck in specific (often the same would apply on windows)

Examples:
Games with very small text.
Games that get confused with any input you throw at them.
Games that have issues after waking up from sleep.
Games that show totally wrong control glyphs while playing.

etc...

One current example for me is Talos principle.
You can absolutely play it on Deck. It's beautiful, there is a great default controller layout defined, even with nice gyro settings. BUT: When I put it to sleep and wake it up, sound has gone and won't come back until I restart the game. And the ingame control glyphs are all just fancy rectangles. For me, it's still enjoyable, but Valve can't seriously call that ready for consumers.
Another example is Psychonauts. I may have to retest at some point, but last time I tried it, it would simply not react on any input.
There were quite a few other native titles that I couldn't get running. Some of them were fixed by forcing windows version with proton, some weren't. Yet, there are so many games that do run great, I just switch games and may come back to these games later...

You are describing "verified". I was talking about "playable".

I don't understand this number. There are 9800 games on Steam that natively support Linux. I understand the verified status having more to do than just the game being playable, but shouldn't playable include all those 9800 native titles by default?

No, absolutely not. Matter of expectations.
There are quite a lot of games that work perfect on Linux but need fixes for handhelds in general or deck in specific (often the same would apply on windows)

Examples:
Games with very small text.
Games that get confused with any input you throw at them.
Games that have issues after waking up from sleep.
Games that show totally wrong control glyphs while playing.

etc...

One current example for me is Talos principle.
You can absolutely play it on Deck. It's beautiful, there is a great default controller layout defined, even with nice gyro settings. BUT: When I put it to sleep and wake it up, sound has gone and won't come back until I restart the game. And the ingame control glyphs are all just fancy rectangles. For me, it's still enjoyable, but Valve can't seriously call that ready for consumers.
Another example is Psychonauts. I may have to retest at some point, but last time I tried it, it would simply not react on any input.
There were quite a few other native titles that I couldn't get running. Some of them were fixed by forcing windows version with proton, some weren't. Yet, there are so many games that do run great, I just switch games and may come back to these games later...

You are describing "verified". I was talking about "playable".

I don't think missing sound would fall under playable. Missing input neither. There are native games that are clearly not playable. Every game needs to be checked.

I don't understand this number. There are 9800 games on Steam that natively support Linux. I understand the verified status having more to do than just the game being playable, but shouldn't playable include all those 9800 native titles by default?

No, absolutely not. Matter of expectations.
There are quite a lot of games that work perfect on Linux but need fixes for handhelds in general or deck in specific (often the same would apply on windows)

Examples:
Games with very small text.
Games that get confused with any input you throw at them.
Games that have issues after waking up from sleep.
Games that show totally wrong control glyphs while playing.

etc...

One current example for me is Talos principle.
You can absolutely play it on Deck. It's beautiful, there is a great default controller layout defined, even with nice gyro settings. BUT: When I put it to sleep and wake it up, sound has gone and won't come back until I restart the game. And the ingame control glyphs are all just fancy rectangles. For me, it's still enjoyable, but Valve can't seriously call that ready for consumers.
Another example is Psychonauts. I may have to retest at some point, but last time I tried it, it would simply not react on any input.
There were quite a few other native titles that I couldn't get running. Some of them were fixed by forcing windows version with proton, some weren't. Yet, there are so many games that do run great, I just switch games and may come back to these games later...

You are describing "verified". I was talking about "playable".

I don't think missing sound would fall under playable. Missing input neither. There are native games that are clearly not playable. Every game needs to be checked.

I have a great example of a Verified game that I had a bit of specific problems with; Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance.
1) It installs the Windows version; which the Devs apparently have not selected the thing to do cross-platform cloud sync. So while switching between my Linux desktop running the native game and the Steam Deck running Proton, it would not sync. Changing the Deck to the Steam Linux Runtime fixed that issue.
2) but changing to the Linux version made it unplayable... until I changed the vsync / max fps to 60, then it ran BEAUTIFULLY, even better native than it did with Proton. Weirdly enough, if I changed to Desktop mode, it ran perfectly fine without tweaks (I'm assuming at this point the DeckUI has limiters in place that desktop mode does not).

Edit: at this point I think Star Wars: Force Unleashed should be promoted to Verified, that game works flawlessly! Though I think the game itself glitched on the level I got to last night, as it wouldn't let me pull down some bridge I needed to.


Last edited by slaapliedje on 23 June 2022 at 10:51 pm UTC

I'm curious: have the ratings shifted to be more in line with peoples' expectations?

No, they haven't changed their criteria for rating games as Verified.

Right, I know the criteria, thanks; but I remember there was a big outcry when the Deck first came out that games which were—according to Valve's definitions—Verified or Playable still had issues like crashes, unwatchable cutscenes, etc.. Regardless of what the formal criteria say, people generally expect a Verified game to be basically flawless*. So my question was, whether or not Valve have changed the formal criteria, do they seem to have informally changed the process such that e.g. Verified games are more in line with what people expect rather than just their own criteria. (Ticktok's reply above seems to indicate, informally, that the answer might be "yes.")

*Like, the Verified criteria say nothing about stability, so a Verified game could crash every 10 minutes and still perfectly fit the criteria for being Verified; but most people would expect a Verified game not to do that.

So essentially your question is:

Is Valve lying to us?

I doubt it. Maybe some testers are bending the rules? Perhaps. Why wouldn't they just change their criteria? I don't think crashing every 10 minutes is what Valve has in mind for a great experience on Steam Deck lol.

So essentially your question is:

Is Valve lying to us?

I doubt it. Maybe some testers are bending the rules? Perhaps. Why wouldn't they just change their criteria? I don't think crashing every 10 minutes is what Valve has in mind for a great experience on Steam Deck lol.

I wouldn't put it that way, more that Valve have some discretion about when they officially release a rating for a game. If they test two games, and both tick the boxes for Verified, but one would be a bad gameplay experience (crashes, whatever), they could hold off on releasing a rating for that game until Proton improvements or developer action fixes it up to a higher standard. At least, they might be able to do that now when there are 3.5k games rated, in the early days they might've released it anyway just to get the number of quicker (since it was technically Verified). But there wouldn't be any deception involved in any of this, and this is all just idle speculation on my part.