The Last of Us Part I got a juicy patch with Steam Deck improvements

I just gave it a try on desktop and the deck and pretty much zero improvement in any kind of performance from what I can tell, my desktop machine started compiling shaders again after the update but started at 98% and took 15 minutes to get to 100% again. On steam deck still the same 35fps wondering around indoors and any kind of zombies or battle it plunges down to mid-low 20fps range. It is good they are fixing the bugs but seems like any chance of this game working well on the deck is still far off.

On my setup there's nearly no performance difference, although disabling vsync made it noticeably smoother whereas the toggle appeared to make no difference before.

I don't own this, but from what I have read this has to be one of the worst PC ports in a very long time. Which really says something. This is a technical mess that might not be fixed for a very long time.

I don't own this, but from what I have read this has to be one of the worst PC ports in a very long time. Which really says something. This is a technical mess that might not be fixed for a very long time.

Sounds like what happened with Arkham Knight; that got released right after Valve started offering refunds, and it got put to use quite heavily. But if you look at it now, the recent reviews are overwhelmingly positive - so let's hope this game has the same result in the end.

From my point of view: no tux no bux. I have 229 games on steam and I will never buy no native game. If i want play no native game there is torrent + wine.

What does that have to do with the topic? And are people now supposed to be impressed that you pirate stuff?

Sounds like what happened with Arkham Knight; that got released right after Valve started offering refunds, and it got put to use quite heavily. But if you look at it now, the recent reviews are overwhelmingly positive - so let's hope this game has the same result in the end.

On the other hand there are people that claim that Arkham Origins is the best of the Arkham games despite the many unpatched issues like Killercroc becoming invisible/sound stopping, the non-respawning predator rooms which can lock your progress in the Worst Nightmare challenge track (they even promised to fix it) and the copy&paste fight against Deathstroke (obviously re-uses animations from City and turned into a pure QTE).

I seriously wonder why anybody thought it was good game design to change the challenges from the previous game as something that could be done at any point in your play-through to something that can only be done at very specific points in the story. Also to complete the last of the Gotham Protector challenges requires something that the game actively prevents you to do without exploiting a bug (or using new game plus for a second attempt or the one live mode) since the game stops spawning crimes in progress on the bridge after doing it once in the beginning.

From my point of view: no tux no bux. I have 229 games on steam and I will never buy no native game. If i want play no native game there is torrent + wine.

There is simply no need to come along to a post about a Non-Native game and post this. Stop it please.

We really need to start holding the developers to account for low-effort ports. Too many people will buy it anyway.

We really need to start holding the developers to account for low-effort ports. Too many people will buy it anyway.

But how? The Windows users will buy it anyway – most of them even if the game has an additional layer of inconvenience (AKA always online launcher) sprinkled on top.

If a huge percentage of Linux users does not buy the game due to broken promises, the developers/publisher ends up saying that it wouldn't have been worth it to spend more to satisfy such a small percentage of users.

Edit: What I should have included is that with broken promises I'm talking about the “it will run on the Steam Deck” tweet.


Last edited by Klaas on 8 April 2023 at 1:25 pm UTC

We really need to start holding the developers to account for low-effort ports. Too many people will buy it anyway.

But how? The Windows users will buy it anyway – most of them even if the game has an additional layer of inconvenience (AKA always online launcher) sprinkled on top.

If a huge percentage of Linux users does not buy the game due to broken promises, the developers/publisher ends up saying that it wouldn't have been worth it to spend more to satisfy such a small percentage of users.

Edit: What I should have included is that with broken promises I'm talking about the “it will run on the Steam Deck” tweet.

Personally, I feel what Lanz said is correct, that is that gamers (including windows gamers) should stop accepting such low quality ports and avoid buying games that are in such a poor condition as this was until it is either fixed or they simply stop releasing them in such a poor state. Bearing in mind, even Windows gamers are finding this extremely buggy and non-functional.

It's only like any other industry, could you imagine if you purchased a new car, and suddenly you found out it runs poorly because the batteries are underpowered for the motor, the windscreen wipers may cause the onboard speedometer to fail, and now you have to wait for system updates, which may or may not occur to fix these issues?

It would never be acceptable at all in that industry. So why should gamers accept it? At the end of the day, we are paying for a product and that product should meet certain standards.


Last edited by BlackBloodRum on 8 April 2023 at 2:36 pm UTC

Sounds like what happened with Arkham Knight

Wasn't it even the same porting studio? Sounds like they need to stop getting PC business.

Sounds like what happened with Arkham Knight

Wasn't it even the same porting studio? Sounds like they need to stop getting PC business.

Yes, it was the same porting company.

I blame SONY for this disaster, because they own Nixxes, which is a more qualified game porter.

Personally, I feel what Lanz said is correct, (…)

Oh, absolutely. It's definitely correct, but what it needs is solidarity – otherwise there is not chance of things changing. And that's not what I'm seeing.

In this case there is a video by a gaming magazine that makes fun of PC users for a) not being able to run the game because they should have bought a PS5 instead and b) for never washing themselves.

Very often on Steam you see people making fun of other people that have technical difficulties. Common sighting are:
1) Install Windows. Only morons use Linux.
2) It runs on my system so everyone that has trouble is wrong.
3) I don't care if it works or not, I'm buying it to support the developer/publisher/to spite you/something else.

I've never bought a game that uses Denuvo and avoid buying games that require third party launcher (unfortunately some have been added afterwards). Does it change anything? Unfortunately not.

Personally, I feel what Lanz said is correct, (…)

Oh, absolutely. It's definitely correct, but what it needs is solidarity – otherwise there is not chance of things changing. And that's not what I'm seeing.

In this case there is a video by a gaming magazine that makes fun of PC users for a) not being able to run the game because they should have bought a PS5 instead and b) for never washing themselves.

Very often on Steam you see people making fun of other people that have technical difficulties. Common sighting are:
1) Install Windows. Only morons use Linux.
2) It runs on my system so everyone that has trouble is wrong.
3) I don't care if it works or not, I'm buying it to support the developer/publisher/to spite you/something else.

I've never bought a game that uses Denuvo and avoid buying games that require third party launcher (unfortunately some have been added afterwards). Does it change anything? Unfortunately not.

Indeed. There's only one way to truly make a business change their mind: Money.

But to do that needs a "united force" so to speak. That is, all gamers on the same page.

Sadly, getting all of any group on the same page can be near impossible.

As for common steam forum posts.. oh don't get me started!

To many people simply accept being treated like a certain brown substance, and some even wear it as a badge of honour. Until those people take a stand as well, nothing will change.


Last edited by BlackBloodRum on 10 April 2023 at 7:59 am UTC

We really need to start holding the developers to account for low-effort ports. Too many people will buy it anyway.

But how? The Windows users will buy it anyway – most of them even if the game has an additional layer of inconvenience (AKA always online launcher) sprinkled on top.

If a huge percentage of Linux users does not buy the game due to broken promises, the developers/publisher ends up saying that it wouldn't have been worth it to spend more to satisfy such a small percentage of users.

Edit: What I should have included is that with broken promises I'm talking about the “it will run on the Steam Deck” tweet.

You maje an interesting point... i'm left wondering if "buy, try, refund if it doesn't run fine" is better for linux than "don't buy if others have issues"

but then again some devs will say they'll never do linux again because it's not worth the effort with so many open support tickets, etc

We really need to start holding the developers to account for low-effort ports. Too many people will buy it anyway.

But how? The Windows users will buy it anyway – most of them even if the game has an additional layer of inconvenience (AKA always online launcher) sprinkled on top.

If a huge percentage of Linux users does not buy the game due to broken promises, the developers/publisher ends up saying that it wouldn't have been worth it to spend more to satisfy such a small percentage of users.

Edit: What I should have included is that with broken promises I'm talking about the “it will run on the Steam Deck” tweet.

You maje an interesting point... i'm left wondering if "buy, try, refund if it doesn't run fine" is better for linux than "don't buy if others have issues"

but then again some devs will say they'll never do linux again because it's not worth the effort with so many open support tickets, etc

In truth, this is the real problem we have with Linux. If it wasn't for Valve, we'd be in a no-win situation if I'm honest.

If we complain a lot, we'll get "angry devs" and Windows users telling us "you should just use windows", and so people won't switch to Linux and developers won't support us.

If we don't complain, we'll be left with broken games, and Windows users telling us "you should just use windows", and so people won't switch to Linux and developers won't support us.

If we don't buy games, we're left with no games, and Windows users telling us "you should just use windows", and developers won't support us.

If it wasn't for Valve doing a ton of heavy lifting on our behalf, we wouldn't be where we are now.

Well, Microsoft did a ton of heavy lifting with Windows starting with 95 to convince devs to make games for it, including making some, apparently, excellent tools. There was no such push for Linux, and frankly no one to make it, until Valve decided they’d be the ones. Windows had no competition, Linux has a huge entrenched competitor that seems impossible to uproot.

To many people simply accept being treated like a certain brown substance, and some even wear it as a badge of honour. Until those people take a stand as well, nothing will change.

Sad but true. I once knew some gamers who took the view that people had no right to complain about or choose not to buy overpriced DLC that wasn't reflective of what the customer-base actually wanted to see, and insisted that everybody should simply be grateful for its very existence and pay up, just because they'd been suckered in. Quite sad to see.