Nintendo DMCA nukes 8,535 GitHub copies of Switch emulator yuzu

Pictured - The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, Credit: Yuzu

I really don't understand why these people doesn't run their own Gitlab server (or similar) ?

It's not that hard and really should be for folks who can code like that. I administer a Gitlab server and sure it's frequent updates, but other than that it'a piece of cake. Just host it somewhere DMCA does not apply.

This issue is another good indicator why the "cloud" is not a good idea. It's just a fancy name for someone else's server. This goes for most things. Technically competent people should really have their own DNS, email etc. as Internet was originally designed.

Quoting: TeomyrI really don't understand why these people doesn't run their own Gitlab server (or similar) ?

It's not that hard and really should be for folks who can code like that. I administer a Gitlab server and sure it's frequent updates, but other than that it'a piece of cake. Just host it somewhere DMCA does not apply.

This issue is another good indicator why the "cloud" is not a good idea. It's just a fancy name for someone else's server. This goes for most things. Technically competent people should really have their own DNS, email etc. as Internet was originally designed.

not everyone has the time or resources to set up their own server, LET ALONE THEIR OWN DNS AND EMAIL. Edit: It’s easy for you because you administer one. That would be like a doctor wondering why people don’t do their own medical appointments because it’s easy for them


Last edited by Nateman1000 on 4 May 2024 at 1:49 pm UTC

I mean, let's not pretend anyone didn't see this coming. While I do certainly agree that Nintendo's litigious nature is ridiculous, when they settled the lawsuit with Tropic Haze with the requirement that they shut down operations of Yuzu and Citra, the point was to prevent further distribution of Yuzu and Citra. Folks could certainly back up a copy of Yuzu or Citra, but distributing it was only ever going to end one way.

Honestly I wonder how much consideration was put into trying to sue each individual distributor, because it's not like Nintendo's lawyers would hesitate to sue individuals into indentured servitude for the rest of their life.


Last edited by JustinWood on 3 May 2024 at 3:05 pm UTC

Quoting: GuestOh my goodness. My rage at Nintendo has no words. Why are they going after random GitHub repos and not people who are pro emulation like Linus Sebastian? Is it because they only go after people who can't fight back?

there’s a difference between suing an emulator and people who are pro emulation. (Usually) you can’t sue people for their opinions

tbh, GitHub is not safe enymore at all... You beter make owne (site) or somekind.
It seems everone can (Sent DMCA) it seems.. So that site is not really Trustworthy of keeping it.

For Github operators is as easy to track which is/was a fork as you hit the button [fork].
To make it harder for them to find you, you could clone locally, create a new repo and upload it ex-novo.
Clone today, upload in a month or so would be even better.


Last edited by kokoko3k on 3 May 2024 at 5:03 pm UTC

seems nintendo will be prevail above yuzu

reality






Last edited by mrdeathjr on 3 May 2024 at 3:26 pm UTC

8535 forks in the Github, 8535 forks in the Github.
Send DMCA! Nuke them all!

17070 forks in the Github...

Quoting: Nateman1000not everyone has the time or resources to set up their own server, LET ALONE THEIR OWN DNS AND EMAIL.

You make it sound like it's a massive job or really expensive. Yes, it does take a few hours initially setting everything up, but then it's like a few hours a year running a server with DNS, email, web and gitlab. Hosting somewhere sure also cost a little bit if you don't have a permanent IP at home, but for a small server it's maybe 10 € per month. I say it's always worth it to avoid all the problems of using someone else's server. DNS especially is dead simple and there is no reason anyone even slightly technically competent should not run their own server. You can even do it on a dynamically assigned IP. That way you avoid all the spying and censoring.

Of course it's not for everyone and their grandmother but this thread was about people trying to develop an emulator and if you can program on that level you really should be able to set up your own Gitlab server or I am definitely going to question your competence.

Nintendo really doing everything to make sure they will never see a single penny from me. And to ensure i will discourage anyone buying anything from them. Although the last part is harder than you think -.-

Quoting: Teomyr

Quoting: Nateman1000not everyone has the time or resources to set up their own server, LET ALONE THEIR OWN DNS AND EMAIL.

You make it sound like it's a massive job or really expensive. Yes, it does take a few hours initially setting everything up, but then it's like a few hours a year running a server with DNS, email, web and gitlab. Hosting somewhere sure also cost a little bit if you don't have a permanent IP at home, but for a small server it's maybe 10 € per month. I say it's always worth it to avoid all the problems of using someone else's server. DNS especially is dead simple and there is no reason anyone even slightly technically competent should not run their own server. You can even do it on a dynamically assigned IP. That way you avoid all the spying and censoring.

Of course it's not for everyone and their grandmother but this thread was about people trying to develop an emulator and if you can program on that level you really should be able to set up your own Gitlab server or I am definitely going to question your competence.

He just said "not everyone" referring to the same people who forked the main repo, the ones you were talking about, right?

It's clear that if you don't know how to setup a webserver and so on there's quite a time consuming difference between clicking a fork button and learning the skills needed to host your own service.

Oh I see... Nintendo is at war. Let's buy more popcorn then.

Quoting: kokoko3k

Quoting: Teomyr

Quoting: Nateman1000not everyone has the time or resources to set up their own server, LET ALONE THEIR OWN DNS AND EMAIL.

You make it sound like it's a massive job or really expensive. Yes, it does take a few hours initially setting everything up, but then it's like a few hours a year running a server with DNS, email, web and gitlab. Hosting somewhere sure also cost a little bit if you don't have a permanent IP at home, but for a small server it's maybe 10 € per month. I say it's always worth it to avoid all the problems of using someone else's server. DNS especially is dead simple and there is no reason anyone even slightly technically competent should not run their own server. You can even do it on a dynamically assigned IP. That way you avoid all the spying and censoring.

Of course it's not for everyone and their grandmother but this thread was about people trying to develop an emulator and if you can program on that level you really should be able to set up your own Gitlab server or I am definitely going to question your competence.

He just said "not everyone" referring to the same people who forked the main repo, the ones you were talking about, right?

It's clear that if you don't know how to setup a webserver and so on there's quite a time consuming difference between clicking a fork button and learning the skills needed to host your own service.

I really hate how the Linux community attitudes towards any problem for beginners is to tell them to just use their over complicated method and not be beginners. Nobody needs to know how to set up their own email server in the year 2024. You can if you want to. Nobody needs to know how to set up their own DNS. You can if you want to. That is an EXTREMELY UNREASONABLE bar for tech literacy

Liars under perjury. That's Nintendo.

Because "illegally circumvents Nintendo’s technological protection measures" is not the case, and "runs illegal copies of Nintendo Switch games" does not qualify for anything under the DMCA section 1201.

Quoting: JustinWoodI mean, let's not pretend anyone didn't see this coming. While I do certainly agree that Nintendo's litigious nature is ridiculous, when they settled the lawsuit with Tropic Haze with the requirement that they shut down operations of Yuzu and Citra, the point was to prevent further distribution of Yuzu and Citra. Folks could certainly back up a copy of Yuzu or Citra, but distributing it was only ever going to end one way.

Honestly I wonder how much consideration was put into trying to sue each individual distributor, because it's not like Nintendo's lawyers would hesitate to sue individuals into indentured servitude for the rest of their life.

Indeed, I wonder how much this actually does for them though... When presenting to the shareholders what are you going to give them? "We spent millions in legal costs to tackle emulation this year and we saw X return on investment.", in this example, how much is X? My guess is that despite their high horsing, they just lose money for no actual gain.

How many people who only pirate the game is going to go "man, I can't emulate this game anymore, guess I'll just go to the store and buy it."? How many people who emulate these games actually already own a copy and emulate for different reasons? Will they look at this behaviour and say "that's fair, I will still support them in the future with no diminished interest"?

I just don't see how it makes any sense business-wise. Trademark sure, you have to defend it or you'll lose it, but you won't lose your copyright just because you don't sue someone copying your stuff...

It was written in the sky that Yuzu will be caught by Nintendo eventually. I'm sure Ryujinx is next in line.

Yuzu emulates a console that is still being sold by Nintendo. Did you really expect Nintendo to be ok with that? It's already hard for retro-gaming emulators...

How dare Nintendo protect its intellectual property!

Quoting: Mountain ManHow dare Nintendo protect its intellectual property!

But... that's not what they're doing here?

Quoting: Mountain ManHow dare Nintendo protect its intellectual property!

Not whats going on here at ALL.. If anything they are twisting the DMCA laws here. Yuzu and in turn suyu does NOT even provide the keys to play the games you have to provide that yourself... And yuzu showing folks how to get their keys no way in ANY fashion broke any law


Last edited by tohur on 4 May 2024 at 2:30 am UTC