Seems AMD and Intel may be feeling the pressure from Arm? Today both companies announced the forming of a new x86 ecosystem advisory group to help shape the future of the platform.
It's not just them though they've pulled in Linus Torvalds (creator of Linux) and Tim Sweeney (Epic Games), along with companies including: Broadcom, Dell, Google, Hewlett Packard Enterprise, HP Inc., Lenovo, Meta, Microsoft, Oracle, and Red Hat as founding members.
From the press release:
“We are on the cusp of one of the most significant shifts in the x86 architecture and ecosystem in decades – with new levels of customization, compatibility and scalability needed to meet current and future customer needs,” said Pat Gelsinger, Intel CEO. “We proudly stand together with AMD and the founding members of this advisory group, as we ignite the future of compute, and we deeply appreciate the support of so many industry leaders.”
“Establishing the x86 Ecosystem Advisory Group will ensure that the x86 architecture continues evolving as the compute platform of choice for both developers and customers,” said Lisa Su, AMD Chair and CEO. “We are excited to bring the industry together to provide direction on future architectural enhancements and extend the incredible success of x86 for decades to come.”
Their plan is to come together to find new ways to expand the x86 ecosystem with their intended outcomes to be:
- Enhancing customer choice and compatibility across hardware and software, while accelerating their ability to benefit from new, cutting-edge features.
- Simplifying architectural guidelines to enhance software consistency and standardize interfaces across x86 product offerings from Intel and AMD.
- Enabling greater and more efficient integration of new capabilities into operating systems, frameworks and applications.
More in the press releases: AMD / Intel.
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
QuoteThis initiative will enhance compatibility, predictability and consistency across x86 product offerings.
So stuff like AVX-512 and etc. will be expected to appear at the same time on all chips rather than in a spotty fashion?
Last edited by Shmerl on 15 October 2024 at 6:01 pm UTC
Linux_Rocks Oct 15
RandomizedKirbyTree47 Oct 15
Quoting: Linux_RocksMan, you can tell that Intel is in trouble if this is happening. This is like Microsoft with Xbox and them trying to act all friendly towards other platforms. If Intel was beating AMD hand over fist again or if Xbox was doing good still. None of this would be happening and they'd be saying fuck off to everyone else. lol
I think it's less about Intel beating or not beating AMD: in sales for new laptops running Windows, Intel is still winning by a lot. I think it's about Intel fearing ARM.
Last edited by Peak on 16 October 2024 at 12:48 am UTC
Quoting: RandomizedKirbyTree47Quoting: Linux_RocksMan, you can tell that Intel is in trouble if this is happening. This is like Microsoft with Xbox and them trying to act all friendly towards other platforms. If Intel was beating AMD hand over fist again or if Xbox was doing good still. None of this would be happening and they'd be saying fuck off to everyone else. lol
I think it's less about Intel beating or not beating AMD: in sales for new laptops running Windows, Intel is still winning by a lot. I think it's about Intel fearing ARM.
Check networth and how AMD is crushing Intel since 2022. Sales don't mean anything.
PublicNuisance Oct 16
Last edited by PublicNuisance on 16 October 2024 at 3:59 am UTC
Quoting: NibelheimCheck networth and how AMD is crushing Intel since 2022. Sales don't mean anything.I would want to claim that sales do in fact mean something, and indeed that things like stock market valuation can often be deeply misleading, especially these days when it can often reflect cannibalizing the firm by using all the profits for share buybacks instead of investing in the firm. Boeing's net worth was sky-high until certain unfortunate incidents revealed they no longer have the ability to build decent planes.
If a company is in the selling chips business, and it is selling chips, you should have a lot more confidence in it than if it is not selling chips.
This is not to say that I have a ton of faith in Intel right now in particular. Just, in your haste to rubbish them don't create a bad rule of thumb that will mislead you.
Quoting: Linux_RocksMan, you can tell that Intel is in trouble if this is happening. This is like Microsoft with Xbox and them trying to act all friendly towards other platforms. If Intel was beating AMD hand over fist again or if Xbox was doing good still. None of this would be happening and they'd be saying fuck off to everyone else. lol
It's actually more about keeping x86 competitive with ARM and RISC-V not about AMD beating Intel. This x86 Ecosystem Advisory Group should have been started years ago if Intel and AMD have had the foresight. I think it's actually very different to Microsoft/Xbox and Sony/PS5 as they don't share anything other than fancy words. Still it remains to be seen if this group can produce anything more than fancy words.
CyborgZeta Oct 16
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