Seems AMD and Intel may be feeling the pressure from Arm? Today both companies announced the forming of a new x86 ecosystem advisory group to help shape the future of the platform.
It's not just them though they've pulled in Linus Torvalds (creator of Linux) and Tim Sweeney (Epic Games), along with companies including: Broadcom, Dell, Google, Hewlett Packard Enterprise, HP Inc., Lenovo, Meta, Microsoft, Oracle, and Red Hat as founding members.
From the press release:
“We are on the cusp of one of the most significant shifts in the x86 architecture and ecosystem in decades – with new levels of customization, compatibility and scalability needed to meet current and future customer needs,” said Pat Gelsinger, Intel CEO. “We proudly stand together with AMD and the founding members of this advisory group, as we ignite the future of compute, and we deeply appreciate the support of so many industry leaders.”
“Establishing the x86 Ecosystem Advisory Group will ensure that the x86 architecture continues evolving as the compute platform of choice for both developers and customers,” said Lisa Su, AMD Chair and CEO. “We are excited to bring the industry together to provide direction on future architectural enhancements and extend the incredible success of x86 for decades to come.”
Their plan is to come together to find new ways to expand the x86 ecosystem with their intended outcomes to be:
- Enhancing customer choice and compatibility across hardware and software, while accelerating their ability to benefit from new, cutting-edge features.
- Simplifying architectural guidelines to enhance software consistency and standardize interfaces across x86 product offerings from Intel and AMD.
- Enabling greater and more efficient integration of new capabilities into operating systems, frameworks and applications.
More in the press releases: AMD / Intel.
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
Quoting: PeakI understand the rest, but why in the world is Sweeney involved?Sweeney has a bunch of lawsuits on his name that clearly indicate he cares a lot about competing on embedded platforms and since that is what they're trying to achieve his power and experience could actually help.
Quoting: CyborgZetaShould've been done years ago. I, for one, do not want an ARM takeover. Locked bootloaders, and unable to easily install whatever Linux distro I want. No thank you.
It's strange about ARM it's both the absolute pinnacle of software freedom and the absolute worst.
Thanks to getting completely roasted by the DOJ Microsoft enforces the freedom to switch.
The GPL enforces that one technically on ARM too, but it doesn't have as powerful backers, so it's a lot more spotty there.
I really hope the SFC vs Vizio case ends favorably, so non-gpl copyright holders can start suing.
I also hope Google loses its anti-trust fights, so the DOJ can achieve the same for them.
Contrary to x86 there is the option to run an ARM device on completely FOSS firmware, but it requires specific processors.
It doesn't have as much invasive ME firmware.
"Sigh"
Quoting: PublicNuisanceSo the companies that screw me over with Intel ME and AMD PSP are joining forces ? Consider me wanting to get off X86 to RiscV or Power9 even more than before.
yes it is popular to scare people that have no clue on how things work that these are somehow secret spy things when they in reality are nothing but managing devices for enterprise IT departments (just like how we in the server space have full on BMC cards instead).
QuoteIt's not just them though they've pulled in Linus Torvalds (creator of Linux) and Tim Sweeney (Epic Games)
those two on the same board isnt something i expected to see.
QuoteGoogle, Hewlett Packard Enterprise, HP Inc., Lenovoomg, HP name is anoying to write/read in this context...
i mean it include an comma and an dot in the name...
Linux_Rocks about 2 hours ago
Quoting: Linux_RocksMan, you can tell that Intel is in trouble if this is happening. This is like Microsoft with Xbox and them trying to act all friendly towards other platforms. If Intel was beating AMD hand over fist again or if Xbox was doing good still. None of this would be happening and they'd be saying fuck off to everyone else. lolIntel is laying off 1,300 workers in Oregon.
Quoting: RandomizedKirbyTree47Quoting: Linux_RocksMan, you can tell that Intel is in trouble if this is happening. This is like Microsoft with Xbox and them trying to act all friendly towards other platforms. If Intel was beating AMD hand over fist again or if Xbox was doing good still. None of this would be happening and they'd be saying fuck off to everyone else. lol
I think it's less about Intel beating or not beating AMD: in sales for new laptops running Windows, Intel is still winning by a lot. I think it's about Intel fearing ARM.
You can't really go by sales of new laptops. Intel pays their OEM's to not build laptops with AMD processors. If you go to a car dealer and the salesman says, you can have a car with any color you want as long as it's green. Then some economist runs the numbers and determines Green is the most popular color by a wide margin. Intel used to have awesome, Intel Inside, commercials. It was exciting to buy Intel. Now you go to a big box store and buy a laptop, statistically you'll walk out with an Intel processor. Intel was dying a slow death when I was working there. At that time they were signing deals to fabricate chips that had ARM cores and not Intel cores. That would have never been thinkable historically. And of course they eventually split off the foundry business from the chip design part of Intel. Tell me Intel has relied on the power of their purse for too long, without telling me they've relied on the power of their purse for too long.
Don't get me started on the Microsoft Tax.
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