Valve did a bit of a woops here, as they recently accidentally leaked the designs for what looks like their upcoming Steam Controller 2 and a new VR controller that is likely to come with the long leaked Deckard VR headset.
This is all speculation as always from leaks, as what we've seen might not even get released. As we saw from the Steam Deck, Valve go through a lot of iterations on their hardware before release.
Spotted by SteamDB developer Pavel Djundik on Bluesky, the newer Steam Controller 2 looks like everything I wanted. Here's a slightly upscaled version of what they found for what's code-named Ibex.
Looks rather nice, and I'm really happy to see dual thumbsticks and thumbpads, much more like the Steam Deck. Clearly Valve have taken notes about how much people love the inputs on the Steam Deck. My only concern there is how thick it looks, so it will be very interesting to eventually get my hands on it to see how it feels.
According to Djundik on Bluesky, here's how the leak happened:
The way it leaked is funny, [they] put "freetodownload" on the SteamVR app for anonymous accounts to access, which made all the depots accessible, and one of the depots was the contents for deckard/roy.
What do you think? Will you buy one?
I pass: the trackpads do not have prime real estate where your thumbs will naturally rest on the controller.
Why do you rest your fingers anywhere? I have mine on the sticks or the buttons the whole time.
Our thumb's natural rotation is like 70° which normally is where the joysticks are placed. This proves maximum rotation for our thumb down to 0° and up to 90°.
For trackpads to be used optimally, they need to reside in the optimal spot on the controller. Steam Controller 1 does this: trackpads are in the place of prominence for max comfort. Steam Deck pads require we rotate our thumbs and flex them, which is fatiguing and not ideal for accuracy.
It's funny that people are assuming it's big. There's no scale, so we really won't know until we can compare it to something.The main thing I missed with the previous steam controller was the D-pad, so I'm happy this thing has one. The D-pad simulation with the right trackpad just didn't do it for me.
I also love the addition of a D-Pad. Also, two thumbsticks.
Good point on the scale. On the other hand (!), if I can shift my hands up and down the controller in a natural way, it might work ok even if it is larger.
My two Steam Controller 1’s getting a bit old.
Hoping some of the games that dropped Steam Controller support after Valve said the first one was on its last day’s bring it back.
While Steam Input is handy mapping things to the thumb pad. Gets so tedious doing it for every single game.
Call me lazy, but I would just prefer to not have to compile a kernel module and make sure the DKMS aligns with the latest kernel.
I will happily buy one of these when they come out, and then if it passes the test 3-5 more.
I am also considering buying a HORI or set too -- aka: https://amazon.com/Wireless-HORIPAD-Steam-Midnight-Black-Deck/dp/B0DLLKRFG8/
The DS4 Bluetooth always had bad range (Maybe my fault?) and a noticeable delay and the XBONE RF was optimal but still a PITA.
I have 3 steam controllers sitting next to the 8 others, but their problem is that the singular joystick yeets FPS games for me. The 2 joystick will resolve this problem I have complained about for years.
If Valve is listening, I guess I would kindly ask for some visual customization options -- it's nice when each person can distinguish their controllers from the others when beer or food is involved and controllers are scattered across the living room.
I'm really looking forward to seeing how this evolves. Looks kindof chonky like Xbox Y2K BFC (Big Fucking Controller ;P) but to be honest having the trackpads there could be amazingly charming like the Xbox 360 controller + the keyboard pad -- kindof reminds me of that.
I'm really looking foreward to this.
Last edited by WMan22 on 28 November 2024 at 4:34 am UTC
I do think the Deck Controls are better than the Controller. If only there was a way to disable the touch pad while using the sticks, kinda like the way laptops could disable the touchpad while typing to prevent accidental touches. That would be really cool.
I'd probably get one, more because it hopefully is the same as the deck controls, so switching from holding the Deck to the Controller would be effortless.
What do you think? Will you buy one?Probably not.
I generally play games on two devices. On my desktop I use KB/M, PS4 controller or steering wheel, as required by the game; I don't need Deck-style controls there. On the Deck I already have Deck-style controls.
Playing PC games without controller support on the telly (the initial Steam Machines objective) isn't something that I generally do, so I don't need a special controller for that. It's great that this will exist for people that do, of course, and others that don't want to use KB/M for whatever reason.
Maybe as the little one grows split screen PC gaming on the TV will be a thing that happens, and then this kind of controller could find a place here.
Edit to add: gaming on a laptop also isn't something that I do, but is the kind of scenario where Deck-style controls might be handy.
Last edited by CatKiller on 28 November 2024 at 10:56 am UTC
There has no doubt been a compromise to get all the inputs on the controller but I trust that they did enough testing on it.
I doubt they would release something like that if it weren't comfortable for at least 95% of testers. So even if the sticks look quite far away, it's probably going to be fine.
So excited for this. I might've considered the Hori controller when they sell them in Europe (assuming) but now I will wait for whenever this comes out. This has been enough confirmation of its existence for me.
I assure you that this hasn't been tested statisfactory yet.
Had it been we would've seen a release statement instead of a leak.
I do think the Deck Controls are better than the Controller. If only there was a way to disable the touch pad while using the sticks, kinda like the way laptops could disable the touchpad while typing to prevent accidental touches. That would be really cool.You can do this in software now:
-Create a new action later and set the trackpads to empty bindings
-Add a command to Joystick Touch which holds your action layer
Now when you are using the sticks, the trackpads will do nothing.
Last edited by chickenb00 on 28 November 2024 at 4:13 pm UTC
If it supported that feature, I'd practically never need another controller type again.
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