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This one looks kind of cool. To be fair, they seem to be sticking to the things they've learned to do well, so it doesn't look like an unreasonable goal. I assume they got rid of the terrain modification though. A procedural earth is fine as long as you don't need to keep track of all modifications.

The thing that I do wonder about is the networking aspect of it. Having a single environment without clear partitioning.... well, we're getting into Star Citizen ideas of seamless networking here and if you've followed that for a bit you know that this is not exactly off the shelf tech. But maybe they're going to cheat a little by having untraversable areas.

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Quoting: lejimsterI wonder what the hold up is in places like Australia and New Zealand for example? They're in the same region and still nothing, nadda. I don't get it.

Places like Kogan sell them, even OLED edition but you will be paying $300-400AUD to the middle men (currently $1279AUD) and I have no idea how warranty is handled.

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It looks lovely. I'm really pleased with how No Man's Sky turned out, but I've always been more of a fantasy guy than sci fi.

Shame about alt-J though lol. Explosions in the Sky did a wonderful job on the NMS ost.

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Quoting: scaine3.5.10 slightly broke my Steam Deck. After applying the update and doing the reboot, it sat at the "logging in" logo, spinning endlessly. I thought the damn thing was bricked, until I angrily pressed the Steam button and got the Steam "menu" popping up from the left-hand side. From there I only had "Login", "Settings", and "Power" options. Choosing "Login" did nothing, but "Settings" let me exit the Preview version and get my Steam Deck up and running again (after another reboot).

I'll give it another shot at upgrading over the weekend, but in a year of owning the device and participating in either beta or preview releases, this is the first time I've ever had an issue!

I did hear a few had issues, but I updated my OLED just now to no issues :)

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Quoting: CatKiller

QuoteNaturally, thanks to Valve's Steam Play Proton, it's likely all of them will be playable on Linux / Steam Deck on or shortly after release in some form.

Given that a lot of Sega's PC games have been released for Linux already it's not out of the question that they'll work on Linux/Deck without Proton.

I guess we have a different definition of "a lot". Going by their publisher page, it's pretty rare actually. The last was Two Point Campus, 2022. Before that were Total War games from Feral, which they no longer do for Linux, and before that Two Point Hospital in 2018.

The majority of their Linux titles were either Feral, or all those retro emulated games in the SEGA collection. I really don't see any of these titles having Native Linux support.

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3.5.10 slightly broke my Steam Deck. After applying the update and doing the reboot, it sat at the "logging in" logo, spinning endlessly. I thought the damn thing was bricked, until I angrily pressed the Steam button and got the Steam "menu" popping up from the left-hand side. From there I only had "Login", "Settings", and "Power" options. Choosing "Login" did nothing, but "Settings" let me exit the Preview version and get my Steam Deck up and running again (after another reboot).

I'll give it another shot at upgrading over the weekend, but in a year of owning the device and participating in either beta or preview releases, this is the first time I've ever had an issue!

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QuoteNaturally, thanks to Valve's Steam Play Proton, it's likely all of them will be playable on Linux / Steam Deck on or shortly after release in some form.

Given that a lot of Sega's PC games have been released for Linux already it's not out of the question that they'll work on Linux/Deck without Proton.

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Still no word from Valve regarding the audio jack :/

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Quoting: GeamanduraEveryone's happy acting like Godot is getting 15 mil in development funds. But this money is raised by the W4 commercial for profit company plugged into the Godot ecosystem. And they're doubling the headcount at this company who are developing closed source for profit components and services around Godot. There's no guarantee how much if any of the money goes straight to the open source Godot. Now I'm not saying it in a negative way, they earned it and I wish them the best, and they probably will allocate some funds for Godot itself because they sound like good guys. But this is not straight up Godot development money.

Not all money will go into Godot, but it might help Godot indirectly, by people using it more because of the services W4 provides.

They keep things proprietary because of the TOS of the console makers, it's not because they're trying to profit off Godot in some way (they're the original developers after all).

This is not a zero-sum game, the games made with Godot are still proprietary, after all. If you can find a market niche to raise money which helps Godot (and it's in your interest anyways because the more people use Godot, the more potential clients you may have), I see it as a win-win in the current situation, tbh

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Well, I tried, but Gleam just kept telling me that they were doing maintenance and asked me to refresh - for an hour, in the middle of the night, for nothing. Great experience; wouldn't do again!

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Quoting: Mountain ManWhat game currently use Godot?

Here is the full list of Steam games. There's also a graph that shows the increase in popularity.
https://steamdb.info/tech/Engine/Godot/

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Quoting: gradyvuckovicMeanwhile Australians just sitting around waiting for Valve to remember we exist..

Valve knows we exist, and Valve knows our strong refund-focused consumer protections exist...

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Everyone's happy acting like Godot is getting 15 mil in development funds. But this money is raised by the W4 commercial for profit company plugged into the Godot ecosystem. And they're doubling the headcount at this company who are developing closed source for profit components and services around Godot. There's no guarantee how much if any of the money goes straight to the open source Godot. Now I'm not saying it in a negative way, they earned it and I wish them the best, and they probably will allocate some funds for Godot itself because they sound like good guys. But this is not straight up Godot development money.

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Quoting: RonDamonIt seems that the market is worries of the UE5 near-monopoly. This is good.

This is an excellent point. If I was a pushing 100 million in sales with a Unreal 5 game, it would be in my interest to keep Unreal Engine on their toes, and what better way than to sling a tax deduction at their competitor.

That way my money strengthens my interests that business partners (Epic) continue to behave fairly and don't try to pull some mickey mouse Unity BS like -- oof we're gonnna charge you every time your game is downloaded or installed like WTF?

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QuoteFrom 5.8.0, users will instead be directed to choose a game when first starting Minetest. Minetest Game will still be available to download, but the user will see other games as well. This gives greater visibility to the wide range Minetest has to offer.

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What new players will see when they open up Minetest.

That's a super good idea! Thanks for that smart move. I had trouble to explain each time to new people, and specially young ones, how it works. Now that's explicit.
Thank you for your incredible work and for listening the community, especially the new comers.

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Skyrim 2024 edition, anyone?

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Great news, Godot really deserves broader adoption! :D

Quoting: fagnerln(yeah, f*ck me right?),

Indeed - i mean: what the fuck?!

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It seems that the market is worries of the UE5 near-monopoly. This is good.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guyand I definitely hit the actual bookstore for them whenever at all possible

Huh. I had you pegged as more of a library guy.

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Secrecy of console companies is such a total dinosaur of an idea.

It would be nice for Godot to compete with the likes of Unreal Engine.

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Quoting: lejimsterI wonder what the hold up is in places like Australia and New Zealand for example? They're in the same region and still nothing, nadda. I don't get it.

I would think Valve would want to be selling in as many places as possible.

I wonder that every day :(

I am so close to ordering a parallel imported one but I just know as soon as I do Valve will release them in AU/NZ.

Well then go for it! Take one for the team!

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Quoting: lejimsterI wonder what the hold up is in places like Australia and New Zealand for example? They're in the same region and still nothing, nadda. I don't get it.

I would think Valve would want to be selling in as many places as possible.

I wonder that every day :(

I am so close to ordering a parallel imported one but I just know as soon as I do Valve will release them in AU/NZ.

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Quoting: tohur

Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: tohurinput lag from vsync has squat to do with refresh rate honesly

It has a lot to do with that I'd say. If refresh rate is low (60 Hz) and compositor waits for vertial sync, you'll notice lag. Tearing means compositor doesn't wait and draws even if it will result in jagged image, so you'll see updates before the full refresh cycle even happens, which in practice means lower latency (lag). That kind of scenario benefits from enabling tearing.

Scenario when your refresh rate is 144 Hz and more reduces the period of blanks low enough that you don't notice anything even if compositor waits for it. But more importantly, you need to have adaptive sync (VRR) in order to avoid unnecessary waits. That's an improvement of the old style vsync.

There was a thread about it here: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/forum/topic/5185/

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Which is why for me KDE trumps GNOME as Freesync works out the box on wayland. Last time I tried gnome don't think freesync worked thus the bad experience on top of using vsync

Input lag can be caused by a whole host of other things, outside of what software you're using even. There's a spreadsheet out there somewhere detailing all of the input lag of just using specific game pads versus another set of gamepads. I've never had any issues with input lag on gaming myself, though that could be because I'm too old to notice. But then if I don't notice, does it matter if it's there? It's like a fart you don't smell.

Amusingly, the main reason I flip between gnome/kde right now is because File-roller is broken as far as being able to drag / drop files into Nautilus at the moment (something about the transition to a new GTK or something is lagging behind). So when I am attempting to copy software over to a CF card for my DOS/Win9x machines, I flip to KDE. This is where I don't really notice any difference whether I'm using wayland or xorg, gnome or kde. I guess if I were bored stiff, I could run some benchmarks on some games to see if Wayland+KDE or Wayland+Gnome or Xorg+KDE or Xorg+Gnome can inch out a few more FPS here or there, or have less lag... but frankly don't give a crap. I've listed the reasons why Wayland 'doesn't quite work for me yet' and that I still need Xorg for over and over again.

I've said many times over, there should be a DE somewhere in between KDE and Gnome. Gnome seems to go for the simplistic, get out of your way desktop environment, and has some useful little quirks in it. KDE goes for the 'give you all the options you could ever think of, and 10x more that you couldn't, because someone else on the internet thought it up.' approach. Both approaches are valid, but I think there would be a lot to say about a DE that could hit right in the middle of that. Or even if KDE could figure out a 'simplified' way.

I used to prefer Gnome over KDE because GTK had cooler themes / and felt less like Windows. Now Gnome just reminds me of macOS, which I have learned to despise :P

Yes thats true input lag can because by many things but in my case I think its a mixture of being locked to using Vsync and not having proper Freesync support in GNOME on wayland and the games I tend to play I notice the lag thus why KDE is just better in this regard. Honestly haven't liked GNOME since they have started down the path of mimicking Apple/macOS in every way possible.. the good, bad and the ugly.

Also KDE does have it in the plans to make a simplified settings app and just app settings in general for folks that just want the out the box experience and basic customization.. and have the rest the settings toggled on with a advanced toggle or something... Theres an Youtuber thats a KDE dev that talked about it some months back on one of his videos

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Quoting: AdamRHargreavesWhilst the ROG Ally has demo units in nearly every electrical store going..,,

Ah well, I shall just continue loading the steam deck store page on any demo unit I see!

Hahaha! Good man!

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Just bought this game. Gonnaa see if it performs differently on Windows than Linux on my dual-boot

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The thing ive learnt in this thread today is that there seems to be more Aussies on GOL than I first thought.......

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Strange selection of stores.., why not the huge Bic Camera at JR Nagoya… Komodo are a really odd company.

Whilst the ROG Ally has demo units in nearly every electrical store going..,,

Ah well, I shall just continue loading the steam deck store page on any demo unit I see!

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Quoting: tohur

Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: tohurinput lag from vsync has squat to do with refresh rate honesly

It has a lot to do with that I'd say. If refresh rate is low (60 Hz) and compositor waits for vertial sync, you'll notice lag. Tearing means compositor doesn't wait and draws even if it will result in jagged image, so you'll see updates before the full refresh cycle even happens, which in practice means lower latency (lag). That kind of scenario benefits from enabling tearing.

Scenario when your refresh rate is 144 Hz and more reduces the period of blanks low enough that you don't notice anything even if compositor waits for it. But more importantly, you need to have adaptive sync (VRR) in order to avoid unnecessary waits. That's an improvement of the old style vsync.

There was a thread about it here: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/forum/topic/5185/

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Which is why for me KDE trumps GNOME as Freesync works out the box on wayland. Last time I tried gnome don't think freesync worked thus the bad experience on top of using vsync

Input lag can be caused by a whole host of other things, outside of what software you're using even. There's a spreadsheet out there somewhere detailing all of the input lag of just using specific game pads versus another set of gamepads. I've never had any issues with input lag on gaming myself, though that could be because I'm too old to notice. But then if I don't notice, does it matter if it's there? It's like a fart you don't smell.

Amusingly, the main reason I flip between gnome/kde right now is because File-roller is broken as far as being able to drag / drop files into Nautilus at the moment (something about the transition to a new GTK or something is lagging behind). So when I am attempting to copy software over to a CF card for my DOS/Win9x machines, I flip to KDE. This is where I don't really notice any difference whether I'm using wayland or xorg, gnome or kde. I guess if I were bored stiff, I could run some benchmarks on some games to see if Wayland+KDE or Wayland+Gnome or Xorg+KDE or Xorg+Gnome can inch out a few more FPS here or there, or have less lag... but frankly don't give a crap. I've listed the reasons why Wayland 'doesn't quite work for me yet' and that I still need Xorg for over and over again.

I've said many times over, there should be a DE somewhere in between KDE and Gnome. Gnome seems to go for the simplistic, get out of your way desktop environment, and has some useful little quirks in it. KDE goes for the 'give you all the options you could ever think of, and 10x more that you couldn't, because someone else on the internet thought it up.' approach. Both approaches are valid, but I think there would be a lot to say about a DE that could hit right in the middle of that. Or even if KDE could figure out a 'simplified' way.

I used to prefer Gnome over KDE because GTK had cooler themes / and felt less like Windows. Now Gnome just reminds me of macOS, which I have learned to despise :P

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It would be nice if W4 invest in some integration of ads on godot (yeah, f*ck me right?), it's possible to use with plugins, but it's far from what Unity has.

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Quoting: gradyvuckovicMeanwhile Australians just sitting around waiting for Valve to remember we exist..

Steam probably got in discussion with EB Games months ago. And EB Games are deadlocked on terms and conditions that are not acceptable to Valve.

Would not surprise me.

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