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Cautiously hyped for Light No Fire from the No Man's Sky team at Hello Games
By Ehvis, 8 December 2023 at 12:32 pm UTC
By Ehvis, 8 December 2023 at 12:32 pm UTC
This one looks kind of cool. To be fair, they seem to be sticking to the things they've learned to do well, so it doesn't look like an unreasonable goal. I assume they got rid of the terrain modification though. A procedural earth is fine as long as you don't need to keep track of all modifications.
The thing that I do wonder about is the networking aspect of it. Having a single environment without clear partitioning.... well, we're getting into Star Citizen ideas of seamless networking here and if you've followed that for a bit you know that this is not exactly off the shelf tech. But maybe they're going to cheat a little by having untraversable areas.
The thing that I do wonder about is the networking aspect of it. Having a single environment without clear partitioning.... well, we're getting into Star Citizen ideas of seamless networking here and if you've followed that for a bit you know that this is not exactly off the shelf tech. But maybe they're going to cheat a little by having untraversable areas.
Steam Deck OLED hits retail stores on December 12th in Asia
By TheRiddick, 8 December 2023 at 11:45 am UTC
Places like Kogan sell them, even OLED edition but you will be paying $300-400AUD to the middle men (currently $1279AUD) and I have no idea how warranty is handled.
By TheRiddick, 8 December 2023 at 11:45 am UTC
Quoting: lejimsterI wonder what the hold up is in places like Australia and New Zealand for example? They're in the same region and still nothing, nadda. I don't get it.
Places like Kogan sell them, even OLED edition but you will be paying $300-400AUD to the middle men (currently $1279AUD) and I have no idea how warranty is handled.
Cautiously hyped for Light No Fire from the No Man's Sky team at Hello Games
By GetBeaned, 8 December 2023 at 11:44 am UTC
By GetBeaned, 8 December 2023 at 11:44 am UTC
It looks lovely. I'm really pleased with how No Man's Sky turned out, but I've always been more of a fantasy guy than sci fi.
Shame about alt-J though lol. Explosions in the Sky did a wonderful job on the NMS ost.
Shame about alt-J though lol. Explosions in the Sky did a wonderful job on the NMS ost.
Steam Deck Beta and SteamOS Preview fix up some annoying issues
By Liam Dawe, 8 December 2023 at 11:41 am UTC
By Liam Dawe, 8 December 2023 at 11:41 am UTC
Quoting: scaine3.5.10 slightly broke my Steam Deck. After applying the update and doing the reboot, it sat at the "logging in" logo, spinning endlessly. I thought the damn thing was bricked, until I angrily pressed the Steam button and got the Steam "menu" popping up from the left-hand side. From there I only had "Login", "Settings", and "Power" options. Choosing "Login" did nothing, but "Settings" let me exit the Preview version and get my Steam Deck up and running again (after another reboot).I did hear a few had issues, but I updated my OLED just now to no issues :)
I'll give it another shot at upgrading over the weekend, but in a year of owning the device and participating in either beta or preview releases, this is the first time I've ever had an issue!
SEGA tease new Jet Set Radio, Shinobi, Golden Axe, Streets of Rage and Crazy Taxi
By Liam Dawe, 8 December 2023 at 11:24 am UTC
The majority of their Linux titles were either Feral, or all those retro emulated games in the SEGA collection. I really don't see any of these titles having Native Linux support.
By Liam Dawe, 8 December 2023 at 11:24 am UTC
Quoting: CatKillerI guess we have a different definition of "a lot". Going by their publisher page, it's pretty rare actually. The last was Two Point Campus, 2022. Before that were Total War games from Feral, which they no longer do for Linux, and before that Two Point Hospital in 2018.QuoteNaturally, thanks to Valve's Steam Play Proton, it's likely all of them will be playable on Linux / Steam Deck on or shortly after release in some form.
Given that a lot of Sega's PC games have been released for Linux already it's not out of the question that they'll work on Linux/Deck without Proton.
The majority of their Linux titles were either Feral, or all those retro emulated games in the SEGA collection. I really don't see any of these titles having Native Linux support.
Steam Deck Beta and SteamOS Preview fix up some annoying issues
By scaine, 8 December 2023 at 11:23 am UTC
By scaine, 8 December 2023 at 11:23 am UTC
3.5.10 slightly broke my Steam Deck. After applying the update and doing the reboot, it sat at the "logging in" logo, spinning endlessly. I thought the damn thing was bricked, until I angrily pressed the Steam button and got the Steam "menu" popping up from the left-hand side. From there I only had "Login", "Settings", and "Power" options. Choosing "Login" did nothing, but "Settings" let me exit the Preview version and get my Steam Deck up and running again (after another reboot).
I'll give it another shot at upgrading over the weekend, but in a year of owning the device and participating in either beta or preview releases, this is the first time I've ever had an issue!
I'll give it another shot at upgrading over the weekend, but in a year of owning the device and participating in either beta or preview releases, this is the first time I've ever had an issue!
SEGA tease new Jet Set Radio, Shinobi, Golden Axe, Streets of Rage and Crazy Taxi
By CatKiller, 8 December 2023 at 11:21 am UTC Likes: 1
Given that a lot of Sega's PC games have been released for Linux already it's not out of the question that they'll work on Linux/Deck without Proton.
By CatKiller, 8 December 2023 at 11:21 am UTC Likes: 1
QuoteNaturally, thanks to Valve's Steam Play Proton, it's likely all of them will be playable on Linux / Steam Deck on or shortly after release in some form.
Given that a lot of Sega's PC games have been released for Linux already it's not out of the question that they'll work on Linux/Deck without Proton.
Steam Deck Beta and SteamOS Preview fix up some annoying issues
By kuhpunkt, 8 December 2023 at 11:19 am UTC
By kuhpunkt, 8 December 2023 at 11:19 am UTC
Still no word from Valve regarding the audio jack :/
W4 Games raises $15M to help push Godot Engine
By robertosf92, 8 December 2023 at 11:16 am UTC
Not all money will go into Godot, but it might help Godot indirectly, by people using it more because of the services W4 provides.
They keep things proprietary because of the TOS of the console makers, it's not because they're trying to profit off Godot in some way (they're the original developers after all).
This is not a zero-sum game, the games made with Godot are still proprietary, after all. If you can find a market niche to raise money which helps Godot (and it's in your interest anyways because the more people use Godot, the more potential clients you may have), I see it as a win-win in the current situation, tbh
By robertosf92, 8 December 2023 at 11:16 am UTC
Quoting: GeamanduraEveryone's happy acting like Godot is getting 15 mil in development funds. But this money is raised by the W4 commercial for profit company plugged into the Godot ecosystem. And they're doubling the headcount at this company who are developing closed source for profit components and services around Godot. There's no guarantee how much if any of the money goes straight to the open source Godot. Now I'm not saying it in a negative way, they earned it and I wish them the best, and they probably will allocate some funds for Godot itself because they sound like good guys. But this is not straight up Godot development money.
Not all money will go into Godot, but it might help Godot indirectly, by people using it more because of the services W4 provides.
They keep things proprietary because of the TOS of the console makers, it's not because they're trying to profit off Godot in some way (they're the original developers after all).
This is not a zero-sum game, the games made with Godot are still proprietary, after all. If you can find a market niche to raise money which helps Godot (and it's in your interest anyways because the more people use Godot, the more potential clients you may have), I see it as a win-win in the current situation, tbh
100 Steam Deck OLEDs will be given away during The Game Awards 2023
By Cybolic, 8 December 2023 at 10:38 am UTC
By Cybolic, 8 December 2023 at 10:38 am UTC
Well, I tried, but Gleam just kept telling me that they were doing maintenance and asked me to refresh - for an hour, in the middle of the night, for nothing. Great experience; wouldn't do again! 

W4 Games raises $15M to help push Godot Engine
By spacemonkey, 8 December 2023 at 9:56 am UTC
Here is the full list of Steam games. There's also a graph that shows the increase in popularity.
https://steamdb.info/tech/Engine/Godot/
By spacemonkey, 8 December 2023 at 9:56 am UTC
Quoting: Mountain ManWhat game currently use Godot?
Here is the full list of Steam games. There's also a graph that shows the increase in popularity.
https://steamdb.info/tech/Engine/Godot/
Steam Deck OLED hits retail stores on December 12th in Asia
By PoliticsOfStarving, 8 December 2023 at 9:36 am UTC
By PoliticsOfStarving, 8 December 2023 at 9:36 am UTC
Quoting: gradyvuckovicMeanwhile Australians just sitting around waiting for Valve to remember we exist..Valve knows we exist, and Valve knows our strong refund-focused consumer protections exist...
W4 Games raises $15M to help push Godot Engine
By Geamandura, 8 December 2023 at 8:51 am UTC Likes: 1
By Geamandura, 8 December 2023 at 8:51 am UTC Likes: 1
Everyone's happy acting like Godot is getting 15 mil in development funds. But this money is raised by the W4 commercial for profit company plugged into the Godot ecosystem. And they're doubling the headcount at this company who are developing closed source for profit components and services around Godot. There's no guarantee how much if any of the money goes straight to the open source Godot. Now I'm not saying it in a negative way, they earned it and I wish them the best, and they probably will allocate some funds for Godot itself because they sound like good guys. But this is not straight up Godot development money.
W4 Games raises $15M to help push Godot Engine
By ElectricPrism, 8 December 2023 at 8:22 am UTC Likes: 2
This is an excellent point. If I was a pushing 100 million in sales with a Unreal 5 game, it would be in my interest to keep Unreal Engine on their toes, and what better way than to sling a tax deduction at their competitor.
That way my money strengthens my interests that business partners (Epic) continue to behave fairly and don't try to pull some mickey mouse Unity BS like -- oof we're gonnna charge you every time your game is downloaded or installed like WTF?
By ElectricPrism, 8 December 2023 at 8:22 am UTC Likes: 2
Quoting: RonDamonIt seems that the market is worries of the UE5 near-monopoly. This is good.
This is an excellent point. If I was a pushing 100 million in sales with a Unreal 5 game, it would be in my interest to keep Unreal Engine on their toes, and what better way than to sling a tax deduction at their competitor.
That way my money strengthens my interests that business partners (Epic) continue to behave fairly and don't try to pull some mickey mouse Unity BS like -- oof we're gonnna charge you every time your game is downloaded or installed like WTF?
Minetest 5.8.0 is out now with improved settings, Minetest Game no longer default
By Geppeto35, 8 December 2023 at 7:55 am UTC
That's a super good idea! Thanks for that smart move. I had trouble to explain each time to new people, and specially young ones, how it works. Now that's explicit.
Thank you for your incredible work and for listening the community, especially the new comers.
By Geppeto35, 8 December 2023 at 7:55 am UTC
QuoteFrom 5.8.0, users will instead be directed to choose a game when first starting Minetest. Minetest Game will still be available to download, but the user will see other games as well. This gives greater visibility to the wide range Minetest has to offer.
What new players will see when they open up Minetest.
That's a super good idea! Thanks for that smart move. I had trouble to explain each time to new people, and specially young ones, how it works. Now that's explicit.
Thank you for your incredible work and for listening the community, especially the new comers.
Skyrim Special Edition updated with Steam Deck support, ultrawide res, bug fixes
By dvd, 8 December 2023 at 7:49 am UTC
By dvd, 8 December 2023 at 7:49 am UTC
Skyrim 2024 edition, anyone?
W4 Games raises $15M to help push Godot Engine
By Termy, 8 December 2023 at 7:22 am UTC
By Termy, 8 December 2023 at 7:22 am UTC
Great news, Godot really deserves broader adoption! :D
Indeed - i mean: what the fuck?!
Quoting: fagnerln(yeah, f*ck me right?),
Indeed - i mean: what the fuck?!
W4 Games raises $15M to help push Godot Engine
By RonDamon, 8 December 2023 at 8:07 am UTC Likes: 3
By RonDamon, 8 December 2023 at 8:07 am UTC Likes: 3
It seems that the market is worries of the UE5 near-monopoly. This is good.
Steam Deck OLED hits retail stores on December 12th in Asia
By damarrin, 8 December 2023 at 7:16 am UTC Likes: 1
Huh. I had you pegged as more of a library guy.
By damarrin, 8 December 2023 at 7:16 am UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: Purple Library Guyand I definitely hit the actual bookstore for them whenever at all possible
Huh. I had you pegged as more of a library guy.
W4 Games raises $15M to help push Godot Engine
By Shmerl, 8 December 2023 at 6:00 am UTC Likes: 2
By Shmerl, 8 December 2023 at 6:00 am UTC Likes: 2
Secrecy of console companies is such a total dinosaur of an idea.
It would be nice for Godot to compete with the likes of Unreal Engine.
It would be nice for Godot to compete with the likes of Unreal Engine.
Steam Deck OLED hits retail stores on December 12th in Asia
By Purple Library Guy, 8 December 2023 at 4:53 am UTC Likes: 1
By Purple Library Guy, 8 December 2023 at 4:53 am UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: NodWell then go for it! Take one for the team!Quoting: lejimsterI wonder what the hold up is in places like Australia and New Zealand for example? They're in the same region and still nothing, nadda. I don't get it.
I would think Valve would want to be selling in as many places as possible.
I wonder that every day :(
I am so close to ordering a parallel imported one but I just know as soon as I do Valve will release them in AU/NZ.

Steam Deck OLED hits retail stores on December 12th in Asia
By Nod, 8 December 2023 at 4:20 am UTC
I wonder that every day :(
I am so close to ordering a parallel imported one but I just know as soon as I do Valve will release them in AU/NZ.
By Nod, 8 December 2023 at 4:20 am UTC
Quoting: lejimsterI wonder what the hold up is in places like Australia and New Zealand for example? They're in the same region and still nothing, nadda. I don't get it.
I would think Valve would want to be selling in as many places as possible.
I wonder that every day :(
I am so close to ordering a parallel imported one but I just know as soon as I do Valve will release them in AU/NZ.
Xorg is dead, long live Wayland - Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) dropping Xorg
By tohur, 8 December 2023 at 4:17 am UTC
Yes thats true input lag can because by many things but in my case I think its a mixture of being locked to using Vsync and not having proper Freesync support in GNOME on wayland and the games I tend to play I notice the lag thus why KDE is just better in this regard. Honestly haven't liked GNOME since they have started down the path of mimicking Apple/macOS in every way possible.. the good, bad and the ugly.
Also KDE does have it in the plans to make a simplified settings app and just app settings in general for folks that just want the out the box experience and basic customization.. and have the rest the settings toggled on with a advanced toggle or something... Theres an Youtuber thats a KDE dev that talked about it some months back on one of his videos
By tohur, 8 December 2023 at 4:17 am UTC
Quoting: slaapliedjeQuoting: tohurInput lag can be caused by a whole host of other things, outside of what software you're using even. There's a spreadsheet out there somewhere detailing all of the input lag of just using specific game pads versus another set of gamepads. I've never had any issues with input lag on gaming myself, though that could be because I'm too old to notice. But then if I don't notice, does it matter if it's there? It's like a fart you don't smell.Quoting: ShmerlQuoting: tohurinput lag from vsync has squat to do with refresh rate honesly
It has a lot to do with that I'd say. If refresh rate is low (60 Hz) and compositor waits for vertial sync, you'll notice lag. Tearing means compositor doesn't wait and draws even if it will result in jagged image, so you'll see updates before the full refresh cycle even happens, which in practice means lower latency (lag). That kind of scenario benefits from enabling tearing.
Scenario when your refresh rate is 144 Hz and more reduces the period of blanks low enough that you don't notice anything even if compositor waits for it. But more importantly, you need to have adaptive sync (VRR) in order to avoid unnecessary waits. That's an improvement of the old style vsync.
There was a thread about it here: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/forum/topic/5185/
Here is a useful diagram:
Which is why for me KDE trumps GNOME as Freesync works out the box on wayland. Last time I tried gnome don't think freesync worked thus the bad experience on top of using vsync
Amusingly, the main reason I flip between gnome/kde right now is because File-roller is broken as far as being able to drag / drop files into Nautilus at the moment (something about the transition to a new GTK or something is lagging behind). So when I am attempting to copy software over to a CF card for my DOS/Win9x machines, I flip to KDE. This is where I don't really notice any difference whether I'm using wayland or xorg, gnome or kde. I guess if I were bored stiff, I could run some benchmarks on some games to see if Wayland+KDE or Wayland+Gnome or Xorg+KDE or Xorg+Gnome can inch out a few more FPS here or there, or have less lag... but frankly don't give a crap. I've listed the reasons why Wayland 'doesn't quite work for me yet' and that I still need Xorg for over and over again.
I've said many times over, there should be a DE somewhere in between KDE and Gnome. Gnome seems to go for the simplistic, get out of your way desktop environment, and has some useful little quirks in it. KDE goes for the 'give you all the options you could ever think of, and 10x more that you couldn't, because someone else on the internet thought it up.' approach. Both approaches are valid, but I think there would be a lot to say about a DE that could hit right in the middle of that. Or even if KDE could figure out a 'simplified' way.
I used to prefer Gnome over KDE because GTK had cooler themes / and felt less like Windows. Now Gnome just reminds me of macOS, which I have learned to despise :P
Yes thats true input lag can because by many things but in my case I think its a mixture of being locked to using Vsync and not having proper Freesync support in GNOME on wayland and the games I tend to play I notice the lag thus why KDE is just better in this regard. Honestly haven't liked GNOME since they have started down the path of mimicking Apple/macOS in every way possible.. the good, bad and the ugly.
Also KDE does have it in the plans to make a simplified settings app and just app settings in general for folks that just want the out the box experience and basic customization.. and have the rest the settings toggled on with a advanced toggle or something... Theres an Youtuber thats a KDE dev that talked about it some months back on one of his videos
Steam Deck OLED hits retail stores on December 12th in Asia
By Pengling, 8 December 2023 at 4:09 am UTC Likes: 1
By Pengling, 8 December 2023 at 4:09 am UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: AdamRHargreavesWhilst the ROG Ally has demo units in nearly every electrical store going..,,Hahaha! Good man!
Ah well, I shall just continue loading the steam deck store page on any demo unit I see!

Cyberpunk 2077 gets another big upgrade with a Metro System, new Accessibility options
By BigJ, 8 December 2023 at 4:08 am UTC
By BigJ, 8 December 2023 at 4:08 am UTC
Just bought this game. Gonnaa see if it performs differently on Windows than Linux on my dual-boot
Steam Deck OLED hits retail stores on December 12th in Asia
By StoneColdSpider, 8 December 2023 at 4:08 am UTC Likes: 2
By StoneColdSpider, 8 December 2023 at 4:08 am UTC Likes: 2
The thing ive learnt in this thread today is that there seems to be more Aussies on GOL than I first thought.......
Steam Deck OLED hits retail stores on December 12th in Asia
By AdamRHargreaves, 8 December 2023 at 3:33 am UTC Likes: 3
By AdamRHargreaves, 8 December 2023 at 3:33 am UTC Likes: 3
Strange selection of stores.., why not the huge Bic Camera at JR Nagoya… Komodo are a really odd company.
Whilst the ROG Ally has demo units in nearly every electrical store going..,,
Ah well, I shall just continue loading the steam deck store page on any demo unit I see!
Whilst the ROG Ally has demo units in nearly every electrical store going..,,
Ah well, I shall just continue loading the steam deck store page on any demo unit I see!
Xorg is dead, long live Wayland - Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) dropping Xorg
By slaapliedje, 8 December 2023 at 2:24 am UTC
Amusingly, the main reason I flip between gnome/kde right now is because File-roller is broken as far as being able to drag / drop files into Nautilus at the moment (something about the transition to a new GTK or something is lagging behind). So when I am attempting to copy software over to a CF card for my DOS/Win9x machines, I flip to KDE. This is where I don't really notice any difference whether I'm using wayland or xorg, gnome or kde. I guess if I were bored stiff, I could run some benchmarks on some games to see if Wayland+KDE or Wayland+Gnome or Xorg+KDE or Xorg+Gnome can inch out a few more FPS here or there, or have less lag... but frankly don't give a crap. I've listed the reasons why Wayland 'doesn't quite work for me yet' and that I still need Xorg for over and over again.
I've said many times over, there should be a DE somewhere in between KDE and Gnome. Gnome seems to go for the simplistic, get out of your way desktop environment, and has some useful little quirks in it. KDE goes for the 'give you all the options you could ever think of, and 10x more that you couldn't, because someone else on the internet thought it up.' approach. Both approaches are valid, but I think there would be a lot to say about a DE that could hit right in the middle of that. Or even if KDE could figure out a 'simplified' way.
I used to prefer Gnome over KDE because GTK had cooler themes / and felt less like Windows. Now Gnome just reminds me of macOS, which I have learned to despise :P
By slaapliedje, 8 December 2023 at 2:24 am UTC
Quoting: tohurInput lag can be caused by a whole host of other things, outside of what software you're using even. There's a spreadsheet out there somewhere detailing all of the input lag of just using specific game pads versus another set of gamepads. I've never had any issues with input lag on gaming myself, though that could be because I'm too old to notice. But then if I don't notice, does it matter if it's there? It's like a fart you don't smell.Quoting: ShmerlQuoting: tohurinput lag from vsync has squat to do with refresh rate honesly
It has a lot to do with that I'd say. If refresh rate is low (60 Hz) and compositor waits for vertial sync, you'll notice lag. Tearing means compositor doesn't wait and draws even if it will result in jagged image, so you'll see updates before the full refresh cycle even happens, which in practice means lower latency (lag). That kind of scenario benefits from enabling tearing.
Scenario when your refresh rate is 144 Hz and more reduces the period of blanks low enough that you don't notice anything even if compositor waits for it. But more importantly, you need to have adaptive sync (VRR) in order to avoid unnecessary waits. That's an improvement of the old style vsync.
There was a thread about it here: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/forum/topic/5185/
Here is a useful diagram:
Which is why for me KDE trumps GNOME as Freesync works out the box on wayland. Last time I tried gnome don't think freesync worked thus the bad experience on top of using vsync
Amusingly, the main reason I flip between gnome/kde right now is because File-roller is broken as far as being able to drag / drop files into Nautilus at the moment (something about the transition to a new GTK or something is lagging behind). So when I am attempting to copy software over to a CF card for my DOS/Win9x machines, I flip to KDE. This is where I don't really notice any difference whether I'm using wayland or xorg, gnome or kde. I guess if I were bored stiff, I could run some benchmarks on some games to see if Wayland+KDE or Wayland+Gnome or Xorg+KDE or Xorg+Gnome can inch out a few more FPS here or there, or have less lag... but frankly don't give a crap. I've listed the reasons why Wayland 'doesn't quite work for me yet' and that I still need Xorg for over and over again.
I've said many times over, there should be a DE somewhere in between KDE and Gnome. Gnome seems to go for the simplistic, get out of your way desktop environment, and has some useful little quirks in it. KDE goes for the 'give you all the options you could ever think of, and 10x more that you couldn't, because someone else on the internet thought it up.' approach. Both approaches are valid, but I think there would be a lot to say about a DE that could hit right in the middle of that. Or even if KDE could figure out a 'simplified' way.
I used to prefer Gnome over KDE because GTK had cooler themes / and felt less like Windows. Now Gnome just reminds me of macOS, which I have learned to despise :P
W4 Games raises $15M to help push Godot Engine
By fagnerln, 8 December 2023 at 2:08 am UTC
By fagnerln, 8 December 2023 at 2:08 am UTC
It would be nice if W4 invest in some integration of ads on godot (yeah, f*ck me right?), it's possible to use with plugins, but it's far from what Unity has.
Steam Deck OLED hits retail stores on December 12th in Asia
By Craggles086, 8 December 2023 at 1:08 am UTC
Steam probably got in discussion with EB Games months ago. And EB Games are deadlocked on terms and conditions that are not acceptable to Valve.
Would not surprise me.
By Craggles086, 8 December 2023 at 1:08 am UTC
Quoting: gradyvuckovicMeanwhile Australians just sitting around waiting for Valve to remember we exist..
Steam probably got in discussion with EB Games months ago. And EB Games are deadlocked on terms and conditions that are not acceptable to Valve.
Would not surprise me.
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