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Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: CaldathrasInteresting. I was forced to 580 from the 550 series. Wasn't given a choice. Based on the link below, Nvidia no longer supports the 550 series, by the way:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/

To do that I had to drop my kernel to 6.14 (which is now also unsupported I think) and remove one line from the code. But any drive above that messes up my VR (among other things), so it has to be done.

hey man, I'm trying since weeks to get back to 565 from currently 580
It updated automatically and it seems like I have no choice or way back....

I'm on POP OS (No wayland) and kernel 6.17.9-76061709-generic

Is there actually a way to get back to 565.77? Can you please tell me how?

Not exactly and it'll take a bit of doing. But I installed the old packages from the Launchpad PPA. This failed because the glue module wouldn't compile. Then I just went through the compile log and tried to fix the errors. Doing that for a "too old" driver on a "too new" kernel was just too much, so I enabled the older kernel from before my distupgrade. This combo only required commenting out a single line from the driver to make it compile.

There's not exactly a manual for this and if it's still broken after a reboot then you'll have to continue from the console. So if you're not prepared to just do it and deal with whatever happens, it may be easier to just downgrade the whole system.

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This is not the first time he is in a controversy because of how he handles critique (valid or otherwise), and he pretty much react the same way each time.

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Everyone who things he should not reduce his work with using AI: Step in and do this work, or STFU!

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Is there anything like lutris that has installers for old games?

I like heroic but I like to use lutris for old abandonware games because it has community scripts that automatically handle patches, fixes ect

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Quoting: dpanterYou can also elect to not watch the trailer and be better off. Trust me.

I really should've trusted you there...

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Quoting: F.UltraThey actually do (to some extent), if you are a songwriter you have to register each work you create to PRS. Organizations that then pay license to PRS have to also track which song is played so the payouts is actually divided per how much your music was played.

How much of this is "in theory"?

Because that seems like an (in reality) impossible task outside planned organised events like a music festival.

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Quoting: dpanterYou can also elect to not watch the trailer and be better off. Trust me.

Do you have any idea what sentences like "do not push this button!" do to me? 😆
But you're right, not my cup of tea.

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Would running with a rifle be safer than running with scissors? 🤔

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Quoting: dpanterYou can also elect to not watch the trailer and be better off. Trust me.

Each to their own I guess, IMHO it was far more lame than a CoD trailer.

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Quoting: Linux_RocksStill not about to weep for Valve if they lose. lol

This is such a strange attitude to bring to a Linux forum. I don't get it.

I suppose if you only do native gaming, perhaps only buying on GOG and Itch, and so you don't benefit at all from Proton, and don't care about, or for, Valve as a company, that's a valid stance. Even then, you're overlooking the effects of groundswell they've created for Linux by shipping the Steam Deck and promising a Steam Machine, or pushing SteamOS. That groundswell is a big part of why indies still push out Linux builds, from which you benefit.

But I guess if you can overlook all that, AND you don't use Steam ever, then you won't care if Valve are forced to put ID verification in Steam?

But that's a lot of overlooking. And hardly a lol moment.

No, I don't care about Valve as a company. I don't care about any evil corporations. I use their service cause it's usually the best option on PC. Not outta some loyalty to them (for which there is none). I hate Microsoft, but I've still got an Xbox Series X and buy Play Anywhere titles. There's no loyalty to be had with any of them, even if you've got preferences still.

Just cause Valve does a lot for Linux doesn't mean that I owe them shit. I've already spent far more than I ever should've on Steam. The need for evil corporations to fund open source development is an unfortunate symptom of this primitive bourgeois society that we live in. Something that we just gotta deal with.

Furthermore, Valve and their support of Linux isn't just outta the goodness of Gaben's heart or something. It's cause it benefits them and their profits. (Along with them not wanting to bow to Microsoft.) We only just happen to benefit cause of it.

Then as far as ID verification in general is concerned, if the ruling classes want it, it's gonna happen. I think that it's bullshit too, but it's been 1984 for a while now. The irony being that the imperialist propagandists criticize(d) socialist countries for any surveillance.

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Quoting: BladePupperThe cards you get are used to play the actual game whereas the skins from say CS2 are basically only used to cash in and maybe pay for a steam game.

Agree with most of your post except this bit. MtG packs are not "necessary" to play the game. You buy the base pack and you're good to go.

That is . . . true in some sort of technical sense. But it has nothing to do with the actual experience of anyone playing Magic.

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IMHO, this is going to do nothing. There are a lot of parents who will ignore the age rating. What they need to do is ban all loot boxes or, as EA calls them, "surprise mechanics,” and limit in-game real money purchases to 18++, which includes buying in-game currency with real money

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I don't have a problem with people using AI to assist with them building a program. I just take issue with AI being used to generate slop in videogames, movies, entertainment products in general that take away jobs from artists and voice actors/actresses. For instance, I don't have a problem buying a piece of software or using a piece of software that was almost entirely AI written, but I refuse to pay money to go see a movie that was almost entirely designed with AI. I see programming as something that will be drastically improved by AI over time and can put useful tools in peoples hands, whereas AI generated slop that is infiltrating every aspect of the entertainment industry simply hurts most people. I prefer to see humans being human in creative works, not AI pretending to be human in creative works. I know it might seem like I've created a double standard but I genuinely do not feel that way about this. There are real uses for AI and programming is one of them. It is going to take away jobs from talented programmers, but the invention of refrigerators did the same to the ice trade. There's **always** going to be a desire for humans to want to see real humans in movies/tv shows, but hardly anybody cares if AI generated the functions running in the background of their software.

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Quoting: ZlopezI think the lootboxes wouldn't be issue at all if you always get things in value of the price of opening lootbox. This is how plenty of mystery boxes are working (with exception of trading cards, as the amount of some cards is scarce by design). If you just have same amount of all the items of same rarity tier and have set value for them it would not be gambling as you will always get the value you paid for.

Welllll . . . the things in Valve lootboxes, being cosmetic, are all essentially worth nothing. But since they tell you that up front, they are certainly all worth exactly what they told you they were worth, and all worth the same. Nobody really has a complaint coming when they open a Valve lootbox and get something worthless; "worthless thing inside" was effectively what it said on the tin. 😝

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Quoting: EWGEspecially good for books, CDs, DVDs/Blu-Rays if you ask me.

No, nope, definitely not. Clearly asking you would be, in my case, a terrible idea. I'm picky. Random books, CDs, DVDs would almost all be worth zero to me. Less than zero, because they would take up bookshelf space and I'm running out already. So yeah, I wouldn't take mystery random boxes of that kind of thing if you offered them to me for free.

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Quoting: dpanterYou can also elect to not watch the trailer and be better off. Trust me.

Damnit 😳

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Quoting: GustyGhostOne thing I've learned is that the masses will always make the wrong choice. Large populations of humans do not make decisions that collectively help the best interests of themselves or others.

I think that's a very anti-democratic stance to take.
I argue that people do tend to make the right choice, so long as they are informed and not under duress. The problem is that people are subject to a great deal of propaganda and hardship to keep them from making better choices.

I have friends who want to switch to things like Linux who are just so burnt out that they don't have the mental energy to make the change. Even if it turned out to be easy for them, making that choice and starting the process of doing that is not nothing.

The world would be a better place if everyone had access to good journalism, healthcare, and a full night of sleep.

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The big problem here is not so much whether AI was being used for it, but that the AI contributions are being hidden when there's feedback on it.

If it wasn't, then anyone could have forked the project if they didn't want to use the AI contributions.

The forked project could then just weed out the AI contributions in a simple manner without having to go through the code line-by-line to hopefully spot whatever vulnerabilities or bugs the AI might have added.

Start fresh with just the human-made code and fix whatever was wrong with that.

Wherever the rights of AI or projects using AI end up at, it would have secured the potential for a project like Lutris to exist without it.

Lutris' maintainers could have just said "Yep, we're using AI. Fork it if you're not happy with it."

Done.

No knee-jerk reaction. They could have kept up complaining about not having enough contributors as they have for years now.

It's the assholery of it which is egregious and a point of concern for many beyond the use of AI.

Having said that, I vehemetly disagree with the use of AI for any FOSS projects. Please keep it far away from me.

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Honestly, I would have accepted his argument if he didn't decide to hide it.
I definitely get too much secondhand propaganda due to a family member in enterprise software, but the quote (emphasized bit aside) seems broadly correct to me.

I still hate generative AI, it's still seemingly the culprit behind half of every problem I see in the world. I do at least understand the perspective of people who are trying to make the best of it.

And, sort of relevant to all of us is that Linus Torvalds seems to at least selectively approve of AI tools, even though he also condemns slop, etc. Not saying how anyone should feel about that, but I feel it bears acknowledging in this context.

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Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: CaldathrasInteresting. I was forced to 580 from the 550 series. Wasn't given a choice. Based on the link below, Nvidia no longer supports the 550 series, by the way:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/

To do that I had to drop my kernel to 6.14 (which is now also unsupported I think) and remove one line from the code. But any drive above that messes up my VR (among other things), so it has to be done.

hey man, I'm trying since weeks to get back to 565 from currently 580
It updated automatically and it seems like I have no choice or way back....

I'm on POP OS (No wayland) and kernel 6.17.9-76061709-generic

Is there actually a way to get back to 565.77? Can you please tell me how?

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Quoting: ShadowXeldronprobably lead to more age verification rubbish

Not really. Just include a blacklist and report-system in your game and you are fine, otherwise game 18+. What I worry more about: does it apply to all online games, even those which you only play with friends via internet-connection? It would be stupid to make a 7+ game 18+, just for a chat that is meant to communicate with known friends. But I am not entirely sure if such games are included.

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Surprised that I played nearly ten hours of the first one. I remember enjoying it, but it looks like this was back in 2017, and I didn't have much of an online cadre of pals back then, so the lure wasn't really there.

Love the look of this. Definitely going on the wishlist!

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Quoting: BladePupperThe cards you get are used to play the actual game whereas the skins from say CS2 are basically only used to cash in and maybe pay for a steam game.

Agree with most of your post except this bit. MtG packs are not "necessary" to play the game. You buy the base pack and you're good to go. Then every pack you buy afterwards is a lottery. The only difference is that, yes, MtG cards influence play, while Valve's lootboxes tend to focus on cosmetics.

But I don't think that's actually relevant. It's still a loot box at the end of the day, so I think they're right to point it out.

Also, I don't think Valve was entirely positioning it as "they're doing it, so we can too", it was more just pointing out the inconsistency of how gambling laws are applied.

I didn't know about the Chinese law requiring odds to be displayed. That's awesome.

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Every extra person using all these AI tools is only adding to the issue.

The more abstraction exists between the problem and those perpetuating it, the less likely you will be able to get the average person to recognize the problem. Less even to understand it.

It is exactly the same kind of issue we've been fighting in the OS space "Every extra person using [Windows] is only adding to the issue." When people use something, anything, it legitimizes it.

One thing I've learned is that the masses will always make the wrong choice. Large populations of humans do not make decisions that collectively help the best interests of themselves or others.

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The AG makes a bad argument and fills it with two very stupid things. First is that valve needs to do more to verify age even on accounts that buy games which already in needs a form of payment that requires you to be 18 anyway at least in the Midwest in USA. That helps no one and does nothing, if that is to stop kids from gambling then all it does it try to enter more adults into these mass surveillance databases and that can go to hell.
Second is the Jack Thompson tired, brutally beaten, dead horse of "video games cause real world violence" which like what is the strategy here? Sin tax on video games with "too much violence"? I have no idea what else you could have or maybe the Japanese video game censorship of adding a mosaic to anything that is "too violent". Odd and bad idea right from the start. To me, that gives me the impression that this is not in good faith and then sprinkling in some "video games and their platforms need to be part of our mass surveillance network" makes that seems more clear to me.

Valve follows up a sloppy argument with an equally sloppy argument, garbage in garbage out. Mentioning trading cards only further proves that USA needs that law that China has where they require the odds for things like that and lootboxes to be shown to the user such as printing the odds on the card booster packs and boxes. It also follows into the argument of "if they're doing it then I should be allowed to do it too" which is just bad reasoning. The cards you get are used to play the actual game whereas the skins from say CS2 are basically only used to cash in and maybe pay for a steam game. They don't really do anything and could easily be removed without changing game balance or core mechanics unless valve would like to claim that lootboxes are a core component of counter strike. If lootboxes aren't going to go away then yes, they should be showing the odds of them and maybe should require a steam account that has made at least one purchase to verify age.

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It's amusing the vocal virtue signalling by those that barely contribute anything to Lutris :D

Author rebuttal is blunt? possibly bit having tk deal with all this "want want want complain want" must be exhausting AF...

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I tend to be purely pragmatic in open source software. I just take what works and is safe, no emotions, no politics.

The sentiment shared by the developer at the end of his response I find highly concerning and as such I think I'm going to uninstall Lutris. The concept of hiding stuff in what's supposedly an open and transparent environment is making me lose trust in the program.

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Quoting: scaine"I'm doing a thing people hate, so instead of not doing that, I'll continue to do it, but hide it better"

That's a bold position to take in any project, let alone a FOSS project. And just because he can use it in non-slop manner (maybe? hopefully?) it doesn't absolve him of the ethical concerns many of us have about genAI.

You can use in a non-slop way, carefully reviewing the generated code and making adjustments and refactors. Something that he can do as an experienced developer. It would be different if he was blindly accepting the AI generated code.

Here's a counterpoint that I found to be a really interesting read:

https://blog.glyph.im/2026/03/what-is-code-review-for.html

But I do agree with you somewhat. If you're a truly excellent, experienced developer, then you might be able to use genAI in a non-slop way - keep the generated code to snippets and run extensive unit/UI tests on the outputs, etc. But if you're that experienced, you probably rarely need to lean on genAI in the first place.

And running all those unit/UI tests for the generated code will probably mean that, overall, you haven't saved any time anyway. Which is what they found in this study a year ago.

https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/

Maybe (probably even) genAI code is much better than it was a year ago? But still, ethically bereft nonetheless.

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Can you even truly claim it's open source when it's using AI generated code?

That's debatable, open source works because copyright is enforcing the licence. And AI generated content don't have copyright.
So all the AI generated code don't have a licence. That is like having a very permissive licence, like MIT with not even attribution.

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