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Quoting: eggrole

Quoting: LoftyWe want Passion over Profits.

This sounds great, and I agree when it comes to art/games and even life in general, but I don't think this statement stands up to scrutiny. Do you, and/or how many people do you know, that work a job they are passionate for versus a job that pays the most?

I know there is a limit when more money does not matter, but from what I understand that is somewhere around 75-100kUSD/year. Most people (in the whole world) don't make that much. Hell, the median income (individual) in the USA is only ~40k. I don't think people are working these "low" paying jobs because they are passionate. I think they are taking whatever they can get.

As the old saying goes, money talks and bullshit walks.

I'm not saying this is good/right, it simply is the shitty nature of our for profit (and put a price tag on everything) world.

I think you missed my point that as Ai skeptical consumers it's what we want (as literally stated) it's not what the 'company' wants.

And yes i can delineate the difference between the Artist/coding and the management structure of a company. Also I don't think bringing employee salaries is valid considering on of the main objections to the use of Ai is entire workforces are let go because of Ai. It feels like your saying 'they were just doing their job ', they had no other choice. It's an oxymoron.

However if your making excuses for shitty industry behavior & glossing over it with a " money talks and bullshit walks." statement which is akin to saying " the proof is in the pudding " well the proof might be the overwhelming negative consumer reaction to generating games using Ai.

As a side note your statement implies that only those with money or power have valid opinions. You probably think that, but we have seen from some recent news articles that a the collective voice is starting to slowly resonate back to developers that in general gamers don't want game studio's pumping out generic Ai slop.

In the end you may be right about the financial incentive to make cheap Ai slop games but we have the option to state our concerns using our wallets and our voice to explain why.

This is why GOL is a valuable news source, because it alerts us to which companies are trying to go this route and decide how much this means to you as a consumer.

*edit Some people don't care about the use of Ai in game and that's fine too.

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Quoting: LoftyWe want Passion over Profits.

This sounds great, and I agree when it comes to art/games and even life in general, but I don't think this statement stands up to scrutiny. Do you, and/or how many people do you know, that work a job they are passionate for versus a job that pays the most?

I know there is a limit when more money does not matter, but from what I understand that is somewhere around 75-100kUSD/year. Most people (in the whole world) don't make that much. Hell, the median income (individual) in the USA is only ~40k. I don't think people are working these "low" paying jobs because they are passionate. I think they are taking whatever they can get.

As the old saying goes, money talks and bullshit walks.

I'm not saying this is good/right, it simply is the shitty nature of our for profit (and put a price tag on everything) world.

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I don't know about the cross platform app, but Vortex is a buggy and overcomplicated mess. I miss the days of Nexus Mod Manager...

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Quoting: TheSHEEEPThis is the only important part of the corporate blabla:

urthermore, we won't implement generative AI into our products without prior notice.

So the only thing they are saying is that they'll do it anyway, they'll just tell you about it.

... which I'm fine with. Have an informed decision.

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This is the only important part of the corporate blabla:

urthermore, we won't implement generative AI into our products without prior notice.

So the only thing they are saying is that they'll do it anyway, they'll just tell you about it.

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FYI, I tried crossover almost a year ago so my info may have fallen out of date.

Crossover downloads the installer of Office 365, the constantly updating variant of Office. The installer is executed in a 32 bit Wine prefix with Windows version set to Win7. The installer detects this and downloads an old version of Office 365 with fewer components ie. no OneDrive. Using a 64 bit prefix or Windows version Win10 immediately crashes the installer.

There may have been improvements in the last 1 year & few months so don't quote me on this info lol.

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Quoting: foobrewThe comment about Windows was far more shocking to me. I'd like to believe that after 30+ years the tide might be turning...but I'm not holding my breath. Seriously though, how is it possible that young people don't even question that they're running the same OS, just a newer version of course, that their GRANDPARENTS ran? Youth don't do this with any other product that I can think of. The unquestioning fealty to Microsoft is something I suppose I'll never understand.

Well, up until recently they might have not questioned it because they just didn't notice it. I mean, your OS (and where there's a distinction, your desktop environment) are kind of just a substrate you run your software on. And at this point the desktop environment is . . . sure, people innovate, but if you're not getting cute it's a pretty mature thing, so if it's done decently people are barely aware it's there. It's like how people don't rebel against how their grandparents used refrigerators.

On Windows, though, people are no longer barely aware it's there, because MS insists on making it get in the way. Lately it seems there are a ton of "I switched to Linux cuz Win 11 sucks so hard, so should you" videos on the internet. It feels like there's a shift happening.

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Quoting: TheSHEEEPShame, really.
Large amounts of clown awards were a good way to quickly notice idiotic postings without having to read them entirely.

The idea of "purely showing appreciation" sounds like coddling and participation trophy nonsense to me.
Only positive thoughts allowed, no critique please.
Not really my style.

I had no idea that points got transferred that way, though.
Then again, I assign no value to these points whatsoever as they are so plenty I don't think anyone could even spend them all.

Exactly! I used this as an indicator that a post was silly/nonsensical, which (in my experience) when I bothered to read such a post, it usually was. Now there will will be no clear indication, so you'll have to.....ignore all posts that doesn't have massive "thumbs up awards"?

Lol, not exactly an improvement.

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Quoting: 0ttmanpatch works perfectly using Luxtorpeda.

I wish there was some way to flag games in the Steam client and/or the Steam website to indicate Luxtorpeda support.

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Quoting: GoEsrI'd really love to see a git-based or other repository-style mod site. One of the biggest issues in modding is the modder gets bored and their mods eventually break because they don't keep up with dependencies or game updates, but no-one can do anything about it because the mods would need to be disassembled, assuming that's possible, or it's not clear whether anyone else would have permission to fork it.

I have built something similar to that for Audio plugins. A package registry with versioning, an electron app, website and command line tool for installation of packages. It's possible but a lot of work! The registry can be a static site hosted on GitHub Pages.

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Gonna install the new version of Mint this weekend! 🥳

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The seemingly glacial development pace was probably an indicator it wasn't going to last. That's fine for a hobby project, but not for something that people are being paid to work on...

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What a strange change. If clown award farming was such a problem, Valve should have disable point transfer, for that award specifically. And that would be enough.

If Valve's goal was for me to care even less about anything on Steam outside install/launch button then they certainly succeed...

:(.

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but the PC release has a lot of issues on modern platforms

I seem to recall it having a good chunk of issues on PC even back then. Was an impressive game though.

Quoting: GoEsrSam Fisher's a badass!😆

That he is. 😄

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Steam Awards and the Points Shop are some of the worst updates Valve has ever made to Steam IMO, the community discussions were already kinda foul before but they have been borderline unusable since awards were added. Hopefully this solves some of the problem while maintaining the appeal of giving helpful posts awards (until someone finds a way to screw it up again at least).

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Quoting: SzkodnixI hope Umamusume series won't be enshittified too soon.

Brother, Umamusume IS the enshittification game.

I remember the time before Umamusume. When projects were allowed to make a decent profit, and player goodwill was the priority. A lot of free resources, rates were permissive, events weren't excessively monetized.

If you want to look at what post-Uma Cygames looks like, look at Shadowverse: Worlds Beyond. I play that game, and I would rather spend money on the physical Shadowverse Evolve TCG despite them costing more due to how greedy the monetization in SVWB is.

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Change the WINDOWS app to FOSS programming, THEN worry about porting it after that. THIS is the way.

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There is a lot they can do with gog galaxy; if they can make it more like playnite and then put in linux+proton/wine support on top, then they'd be quite set to sale.

However one of the big things steam has going is community features include fully fleshed out mod support!

Oh also VR support would no doubt help. Plus handheld support... Yeah Steam is a HARD nut to compete against, especially when your upper management only want to hoover off profit from selling games but don't want to put any effort into store functionality and compatibility (EGS and everyone else is a good example of this).

They continuously cry about Valve Steam monopoly but ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to ever even attempt to compete! There is more to selling games then just throwing them up on some horrible DRM store app!

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The Linux response just sounds to me like "yeah, if we have some free time and nothing better to do we *might* look at Linux." So, not likely.

The comment about Windows was far more shocking to me. I'd like to believe that after 30+ years the tide might be turning...but I'm not holding my breath. Seriously though, how is it possible that young people don't even question that they're running the same OS, just a newer version of course, that their GRANDPARENTS ran? Youth don't do this with any other product that I can think of. The unquestioning fealty to Microsoft is something I suppose I'll never understand.

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Quoting: CaldathrasWhile I've gotten used to their DRM-free script-based Linux installers, I would love it if they moved the Linux offline installers to AppImage, with all of the dependencies incorporated.

eh, appimage isn't really the 'container format' that it seems to have initially been sold as. In many cases there are system dependencies and linked libraries that as per linux will get updated to a point where by the appimage cannot work at all, which then requires a full appimage refresh & update. it is also not sandboxed without firejail.

( anecdote incoming: i thought i was archiving programs originally, turns out 6 months is a long time in software, my favorite appimage was just a grey empt box with a gtk crash handler message.. and this was on linux mint not exact a rolling release.)


Now flatpak .. That is much more inline with a kind of 'bottled' instance of software, it too also needing to remain somewhat in step with the system but it has some other benefits of better system integration & is sandboxed. Plus flathub / flatpak is becoming the de-facto distro agnostic software distribution method so there is consistency of support via popularity.

imo ofc

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I'd really love to see a git-based or other repository-style mod site. One of the biggest issues in modding is the modder gets bored and their mods eventually break because they don't keep up with dependencies or game updates, but no-one can do anything about it because the mods would need to be disassembled, assuming that's possible, or it's not clear whether anyone else would have permission to fork it.

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Quoting: dindonPeople from Cygames' community that complain about the idea of them using AI are such hypocrite. Cygames is a gacha-making company that exploits gambling addicts for profit.

there are some people who see both things are wrong, just one of then or neither, i dont see the issue here.

afaik , japan has an culture of gacha since the days before gaming was a thing (see gachapon), and they also value artists a lot, with their huge culture for anime, manga and stuff like that so i can see why they would reject ai when(if) they know about the plagiarism involved, but im not sure its the same community that despise it.

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For anyone owning the original Splinter Cell on Steam, I have verified that the new EnhancedSC v1.4a patch works perfectly using Luxtorpeda.

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I used that site for handful of times anyway. ModDB FTW.

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Why not just a simple thumbs up/thumbs down.

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Quoting: scaineI always find the disconnect between enterprise/management and the general public on GenAI absolutely amazing.

It blows me away that no one in the Marketing Department says, “There are people out there that passionately hate GenAI. Maybe we should spin this differently. We will probably get flamed for this.” Instead it’s, “lets run with a press release that says we are cheap, evil and don’t care about our employees.”

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While I subscribe to some of the Steam forums, I've not used any of the awards. The amount of posts about the changes today is getting annoying.

I don't use points and I'm careful about the forums. I find the forums extremely limiting and think they should allow simple emoji icons without having to use Steam points.

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Quoting: Caldathras

Quoting: PenguinFor reference: the Mint team updated their Xfce flavor (from 4.16 to 4.18) in Mint 21.2.

Uhm... I have Mint 21.3 XFCE currently. It ships with Xfce 4.16. The update actually happened with Mint 22.0. We likely won't see Xfce 4.20 until Mint 23 comes out.

As @AsciiWolf pointed out, it has to do with the base version of Ubuntu they rely on. The only exception is Cinnamon, which the Mint Team manages themselves.

Well, I was eagerly waiting for the (back then) new Xfce clock plugin, which was delivered in Mint 21.2 with Xfce 4.18, and I remember it well. Just to be sure I'm not crazy, I did some research, and you can read more about the Mint 21.2 release here:

https://9to5linux.com/linux-mint-21-2-victoria-is-slated-for-release-on-june-2023-heres-what-to-expect

In the article it says:

"Most notably here, the Xfce edition will be based on the latest Xfce 4.18 desktop environment."

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New GOG owner Michał Kiciński also mentioned in regards to Windows how "It's such poor-quality software and product, and I'm so surprised that it's [spent] so many years on the market. I can't believe it!".

that is HUGE!

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I hadn't encountered this particular problem, but if this helps fix it that's a plus.

I just wish it didn't still take five clicks to give an award*. Imagine if you could simply hover over the "Award" button, a palette of options pops up (easier now, since there are fewer), you click the one you want**, then a "Confirm" button, and that's it.

*Click the "Award" button, click the award you want to give, click "Next", click "Give Award", then click the "Close" button.

**Or, even better, select more than one to give concurrently.

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