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Quoting: mr-victory

Quoting: rustynailIf you can do it on normal Fedora just by installing packages (including copr repos), it is also doable on Kinoite and should be doable on Aurora.

So I can just layer the package? That's it, have you done it? Afaik you cannot layer kernel modules on universal blue, they must be bundled with the system image. But I'd love to be proven wrong.

In the meantime, I did actually try it in a VM and it worked. I installed Aurora, then added rpmfusion using their official command for Silverblue, then rebooted and layered broadcom-wl package and rebooted again and then "wl" kernel module is actually available

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but that hasn't stopped one developer.

Sisyphus-ass dev. What a chad.

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Quoting: dpanterBan AI-generated everything.

Amen

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Ban AI-generated everything. Is it optimal? No, but practical and likely the only reasonable option if Godot wants to remain open to new contributors. These AI slop "contributions" aren't contributing to anything positive.

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The latest drivers from Nvidia completely ruined my XFCE experience unfortunately, entirely breaking the compositor, which had to be turned off. Attempting to drop back down to the (known working) 570 drivers left me in "broken computer hell", booting to a black screen, which took a couple of days to fix. Grr. I am loathe to try the new 580 drivers as it's probably still the case that XFCE is broken.

I will probably have to accept that Mint really wants me to use Cinnamon instead, which I suppose is no great hardship.

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Quoting: mr-victory

Quoting: PyrateCould say this about a lot of Linux projects, or just any open source project really, but Plasma is the gift that keeps on giving. No enshittification, just continuous improvements. We can't stop winning.

KDE Plasma updates are the few I look up to. Back in 5.24 I was installing betas to get some features early, I haven't installed a beta in years but dammit the changelogs still have gems.

Quoting: LoftyI have stayed on X11 because of this using the admittedly great application 'onboard'

I use wayland but there is a bug not affecting X11: moonlight and seemingly nothing else can disable vsync so I get higher input latency.

https://discuss.kde.org/t/1-frame-latency-on-moonlight-only-on-wayland-cannot-turn-off-vsync/40157

ohh that's not good because i do use sunshine/moonlight.

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Quoting: mr-victory

Quoting: rustynailIf you can do it on normal Fedora just by installing packages (including copr repos), it is also doable on Kinoite and should be doable on Aurora.

So I can just layer the package? That's it, have you done it? Afaik you cannot layer kernel modules on universal blue, they must be bundled with the system image. But I'd love to be proven wrong.

No, but I did replace entire kernels, and I know people install nvidia drivers on silverblue, as well as that akmods or whatever the module building system is called can actually run when rpm-ostree builds the new image. So yes, I think you should be able to just layer it from rpmfusion or whatever. That being said, can't be sure until you try I guess

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Quoting: rustynailIf you can do it on normal Fedora just by installing packages (including copr repos), it is also doable on Kinoite and should be doable on Aurora.

So I can just layer the package? That's it, have you done it? Afaik you cannot layer kernel modules on universal blue, they must be bundled with the system image. But I'd love to be proven wrong.

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Quoting: mr-victory

Quoting: rustynailAurora is a distro that both includes all you should need ootb

How can I install a kernel module on aurora? It certainly doesn't have the kernel module I need for wifi (Broadcom wl) and I could not figure out how to make a custom image with the wifi driver included.

If you can do it on normal Fedora just by installing packages (including copr repos), it is also doable on Kinoite and should be doable on Aurora.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyBut it doesn't seem to be available in any distros as user friendly as Mint. One of these days I'll give it another look.

Fedora KDE is user friendly. Not having Nvidia drivers pre-installed ≠ not-user friendly. Windows comes without drivers pre-installed as well and people think that OS is user friendly. There's no harm in websearching "install nvidia drivers fedora Linux" and learning a thing or two about package management in the process. It's good practice long term.

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One thing that id really like to see is audio device disconnect to not pause video with the media controls. To have a setting there to either have that enabled or disabled.

I welcome the virtual desktop only on primary monitor. Will take it in use and it will come in handy with games that are troublesome with Alt Tab.

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Quoting: rustynailAurora is a distro that both includes all you should need ootb

How can I install a kernel module on aurora? It certainly doesn't have the kernel module I need for wifi (Broadcom wl) and I could not figure out how to make a custom image with the wifi driver included.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyI'm interested in KDE, it seems really good (I tried it a couple of times long ago and didn't quite click with it, but it wasn't like I fundamentally disliked it, there were just things, little problems that are probably long gone). But it doesn't seem to be available in any distros as user friendly as Mint. One of these days I'll give it another look.

How long ago? Plasma 5 was good but full of paper cuts. With Plasma 6 KDE have really stepped up. They have a huge momentum with lots of devs and funding. You can really feel the bar being raced in every update. I don't know for how long they can keep it up. Most DE's release 1-2 times a year, Plasma does 3 releases a year.

Everyone should use whatever makes them happy and there are plenty of good options, but in my book Plasma is starting to pull away and play in a whole league of their own. Yeah there are lots of options that can be confusing but the defaults are good enough that most don't need to change anything. For most of my time the only customization I did was moving the taskbar to the right and changing wallpaper.

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Quoting: Jarmer... in that nobody has optical drives / players anymore. There just isn't demand for them.

I don't know, those MDISC Blu-Rays are my standard backup media for years. I cannot be trusted with anything else than WORMs (Write Once Read Many), because quite early i had to understand that i was the biggest thread to my data. I have deleted so many things in my life that a friend gave me the name "delet0r", which stuck...
Optical Media is quite easy, really. Its really nothing more than the optical version of a vinyl record, but with additional layers. Once a year i burn everything vital i have from my family (mostly pictures) on two MDISC Blurays and store them seperately. I really hope to keep those pictures safe for my kids, because i know how sad it is when you don´t have a lot to look at from your past.
As for entertainment, i've gone back to buying CDs and DVDs, actually. Sure, i rip the CDs for convenience, but for movie evenings, DVDs and BluRays are actually quite nice.

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I see the Overwhelmingly Positive reviews, the free update, the low price, and I figure why not. Add it to the cart, and to my surprise, Steam actually says: "This item is available at a lower price as part of <bundle>" due to me owning another game it's in a bundle with. Thanks for the surprisingly consumer friendly feature, Valve, now I definitely have to buy it!

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Quoting: suchHDDs are getting up there as well. I can only assume FDD is next in line, and punch card users should probably start getting ready.

That's not even going into raw materials.

I bought 3 WD Red Plus 12TB HDDs for my NAS project two months ago. I paid $229 each. Now the cheapest I can find that model in stock is $369. TWO MONTHS LATER. It's absolute madness out there.

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It doesn't have the Save Sync function yet, but it's great to see a lot of updates. There has been a LOT of changes to the way we're doing non-Steam games in the past 1-2 years since they had a release. The changes were probably tough to get done, but hopefully everything is cleaner from here on out.

I for one have been very happy with the way they preserved my play time and list of non-Steam games.

Heroic will still be my default of GOG & EGS, but Lutris is now back as default for anything that isn't on those platforms (with Faugus for running games from the file explorer).

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Can't wait for the day when there will be landfills of memory/gpus and what not because all the Data centers failed to milk everyone for money for AI slop.

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Quoting: Leopard

Quoting: hardpenguinThis game has kinda fallen into obscurity since they moved to Epic 🤷

Lol, not correct at all.

For years, average monthly player counts were in the 30-40K range. In early 2020 that number climbed to the 40-50K range.

Then in late September 2020, Rocket League went free to play and player counts skyrocketed to 70K+ but only for one month. The influx of new players left and the game has slowly fallen to average player count of 15-20K per month.

So yes, that is correct. This is the lowest player counts have been since 2015.

Source: https://playercount.gg/rocket-league

Your confidence outmatches your knowledge.

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I'm interested in KDE, it seems really good (I tried it a couple of times long ago and didn't quite click with it, but it wasn't like I fundamentally disliked it, there were just things, little problems that are probably long gone). But it doesn't seem to be available in any distros as user friendly as Mint. One of these days I'll give it another look.

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Quoting: rustynail

Quoting: Lofty

Quoting: Stella

Quoting: LoftyFinally! We have an integrated onscreen keyboard under Wayland which has been a much needed accessibility feature for me. I have stayed on X11 because of this using the admittedly great application 'onboard' which has meant missing out on other gaming features & HDR. Now i will have to move from my older existing plasma install to a newer distro that supports 6.6

Not sure which one to choose , needs to be more upto date than mint/debian though but a 'YOLO Update' distro 🤔

Great work 👍

Fedora 44 will get KDE 6.6. Worth noting that there are also immutable variants of Fedora like Kionite or Bazzite/Aurora from Universalblue. The advantage is integrated rollback functionality and the assurance of always having a working system, while staying relatively up to date

I have considered Fedora, never really got into it so far and I've been using Linux for a good long while. I read there are some things missing OOTB that make it not as complete as a distro such as Mint, Ubuntu or even Manjaro.

Fedora is definitely a distro that doesn't really go out of its way to be extra user friendly and it's very vanilla, so it's kinda like Debian with newer packages or Arch without sudden breaking changes, but also the state of vanilla Linux has been so good that people have been calling Fedora a new Ubuntu for a while. Especially if you prefer flatpak apps because Fedora packaged apps have some legal issues with stuff like codecs and hardware video decoding. Also previously mentioned Fedora-based Aurora is a distro that both includes all you should need ootb and is immutable/atomic which means that no matter what you do and how long you use your system, it's guaranteed to always be in the correct state to the point that there is never any difference between an update and a fresh install.

thx for the reply i will check out Aurora Linux reviews to see what it's like. I do tend to lean heavily towards flatpak usage.

im wondering if aurora offers btrfs + Snapper snapshots like cachyos 🤔

Aurora has bootable snapshots and rollbacks out of the box, yes, but it's not really btrfs snapshots, it's sort of implemented at the level of the "package manager" roughly speaking, when you install any system updates, the new version is created as a new system snapshot which you then reboot into, and the previous version is also kept. And before you reboot, your currently running system isn't touched at all, which makes safe auto updates possible, and they are actually enabled by default iirc. I didn't really daily drive Aurora but I did daily drive Fedora Kinoite which it's based on and it has the same system

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Quoting: rustynail

Quoting: Lofty

Quoting: Stella

Quoting: LoftyFinally! We have an integrated onscreen keyboard under Wayland which has been a much needed accessibility feature for me. I have stayed on X11 because of this using the admittedly great application 'onboard' which has meant missing out on other gaming features & HDR. Now i will have to move from my older existing plasma install to a newer distro that supports 6.6

Not sure which one to choose , needs to be more upto date than mint/debian though but a 'YOLO Update' distro 🤔

Great work 👍

Fedora 44 will get KDE 6.6. Worth noting that there are also immutable variants of Fedora like Kionite or Bazzite/Aurora from Universalblue. The advantage is integrated rollback functionality and the assurance of always having a working system, while staying relatively up to date

I have considered Fedora, never really got into it so far and I've been using Linux for a good long while. I read there are some things missing OOTB that make it not as complete as a distro such as Mint, Ubuntu or even Manjaro.

Fedora is definitely a distro that doesn't really go out of its way to be extra user friendly and it's very vanilla, so it's kinda like Debian with newer packages or Arch without sudden breaking changes, but also the state of vanilla Linux has been so good that people have been calling Fedora a new Ubuntu for a while. Especially if you prefer flatpak apps because Fedora packaged apps have some legal issues with stuff like codecs and hardware video decoding. Also previously mentioned Fedora-based Aurora is a distro that both includes all you should need ootb and is immutable/atomic which means that no matter what you do and how long you use your system, it's guaranteed to always be in the correct state to the point that there is never any difference between an update and a fresh install.

thx for the reply i will check out Aurora Linux reviews to see what it's like. I do tend to lean heavily towards flatpak usage.

im wondering if aurora offers btrfs + Snapper snapshots like cachyos 🤔

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Quoting: Jarmer^ I mean, with all the fuckery going on left and right nowadays, this is so low on the scale. I would say this is actually the work of normal market forces ... in that nobody has optical drives / players anymore. There just isn't demand for them. For my 85 yr old father who just upgraded his home theater I asked him if he wanted a blu ray player for his new tv and he just said "no thanks, youtube tv for locals, and the other normal streaming apps are all we need, we don't know how to control our blu ray machine anyway"

There's decades of discs sold, so once the big players exit someone who can make those numbers work can snatch up the enthusiasts, I think. Sort like what happened to music players, perhaps, so acceptable to good, and maybe even premium quality Chinese hardware. And those are arguably easier to replace since everyone has a DAP replacement in their hand or pocket right now. Another half a dozen in the drawer, not to mention the laptop, probably the smart TV and so on.

We'll see. The current market contraction is bound to leave a vacuum in any event. It'd be anomalous if literally no one tried to step in.

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now the same for fortnite !

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Quoting: Lofty

Quoting: Stella

Quoting: LoftyFinally! We have an integrated onscreen keyboard under Wayland which has been a much needed accessibility feature for me. I have stayed on X11 because of this using the admittedly great application 'onboard' which has meant missing out on other gaming features & HDR. Now i will have to move from my older existing plasma install to a newer distro that supports 6.6

Not sure which one to choose , needs to be more upto date than mint/debian though but a 'YOLO Update' distro 🤔

Great work 👍

Fedora 44 will get KDE 6.6. Worth noting that there are also immutable variants of Fedora like Kionite or Bazzite/Aurora from Universalblue. The advantage is integrated rollback functionality and the assurance of always having a working system, while staying relatively up to date

I have considered Fedora, never really got into it so far and I've been using Linux for a good long while. I read there are some things missing OOTB that make it not as complete as a distro such as Mint, Ubuntu or even Manjaro.

Fedora is definitely a distro that doesn't really go out of its way to be extra user friendly and it's very vanilla, so it's kinda like Debian with newer packages or Arch without sudden breaking changes, but also the state of vanilla Linux has been so good that people have been calling Fedora a new Ubuntu for a while. Especially if you prefer flatpak apps because Fedora packaged apps have some legal issues with stuff like codecs and hardware video decoding. Also previously mentioned Fedora-based Aurora is a distro that both includes all you should need ootb and is immutable/atomic which means that no matter what you do and how long you use your system, it's guaranteed to always be in the correct state to the point that there is never any difference between an update and a fresh install.

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^ man alive.

if you put together that quote with the 14 fundamental goals of fascism, well ......... OUCH. I mean. Dudes and Dudettes: we're there. Like ....... right now.

When does the next episode of The Running Man come on?

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Quoting: fabertaweThe greed of those who already have more wealth than you or I could imagine is insatiable. And it's you and I that will suffer. It's both sad and maddening at the same time.

Here's to the big bang...

It feels this is the build-up to these huge cooperations you see in the sci-fi movies or games that have become so huge, control everything and no governments controls them anymore

Wasn't that the whole point of the dystopian futures depicted in the cyberpunk genre in novels? The huge megacorporations dominating society. I'm thinking of William Gibson (whom I've sadly never read), Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, etc. And then there are all the films too. A lot of these authors had the imagination to foresee what seems to be coming about now.

Wikipedia sums it up nicely: to"Themes typical of a dystopian society include: complete control over the people in a society through the use of propaganda and police state tactics, heavy censorship of information or denial of free thought, worship of an unattainable goal, the complete loss of individuality, and heavy enforcement of conformity."

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^ I mean, with all the fuckery going on left and right nowadays, this is so low on the scale. I would say this is actually the work of normal market forces ... in that nobody has optical drives / players anymore. There just isn't demand for them. For my 85 yr old father who just upgraded his home theater I asked him if he wanted a blu ray player for his new tv and he just said "no thanks, youtube tv for locals, and the other normal streaming apps are all we need, we don't know how to control our blu ray machine anyway"

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Quoting: mr-victory

Quoting: suchHDDs are getting up there as well. I can only assume FDD is next in line, and punch card users should probably start getting ready.

That's not even going into raw materials.

Imagine Blu-Ray & archival disks go out of stock before CPUs or GPUs.

It'll happen in due time since Sony is already starting to discontinue making Blu-ray machines and others will eventually follow. Before you know it, Blu-Ray & archival disks sill start to go away.

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Quoting: fabertaweThe greed of those who already have more wealth than you or I could imagine is insatiable. And it's you and I that will suffer. It's both sad and maddening at the same time.

Here's to the big bang...

It feels this is the build-up to these huge cooperations you see in the sci-fi movies or games that have become so huge, control everything and no governments controls them anymore

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