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It seems quite solid: minimal id information for the service provider and no way for an attestation provider to track which sites you are showing the attestation to.

How they're doing it right at least once... ;)

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Heroic has Amazon Game support. It isn't a store where you can buy specific games but subscribers of amazon prime get new games every month.
Still should be mentioned more obvious in the title

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If they figure out how to make Kernel-based anticheat to run on Linux (and be effective), it could be a real game changer, because they'll show it can be done.

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I hope they enable age verification with the German government ID card. It allows you to prove you're above 18 without revealing your age or any other personal details.

EU regulations are likely to require compliant verification methods --so: yes.

From what I gather, your German digital id is required to function EU-wide starting at the end of 2026. Until then, age verifications are going to be handled by a (compatible) digital attestation system if needed.

Source: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/eu-age-verification

It seems quite solid: minimal id information for the service provider and no way for an attestation provider to track which sites you are showing the attestation to.

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Okay it seems you may have misunderstood something along the lines here. Let me clear things up:

Well then that's really not a solution. So first of all, it involves massive duplication of effort. If every individual app is individually re-doing the work, then the maintenance the Fedora people don't want to do once would have to be done hundreds or thousands of times. That's insanely stupid.

There is no duplicate effort. Maybe I was a bit unspecific here: The 32bit runtimes are there. As an application developer all you have to do is to tell which runtimes are required for your app to function so flatpak can link them at runtime for your application to be used. Just as if you would install any given set of libraries on a native Linux distribution in order to run the application. Additionally runtimes are shared across flatpaks. No duplicate installation no additional space no need for self packaging them either.

Actually there is duplicate effort as things are right now as every single Linux distribution has to repackage libraries themselves. Defaulting to Flatpak would massively reduce duplicate effort here. Not increase it. That one of it's key features after all.

But wait, it gets worse! Much of the point here is precisely about apps, such as old games, that people want to use but which are not maintained and furthermore are not open source. There is nobody to package them, let alone each do all this individual compiling of libraries.

I don't understand how this argument supports your point of view at all. There is nobody to package these applications for any Linux distribution as well if they are closed source. What is the point here?

However most devs of proprietary software bundle required libraries with their application anyway. Looking at any random Linux native game here for example. If they work on a native Linux distribution with 32bit support. So they will work with flatpak too.

An application does not need to be open source to be packaged as a flatpak. You can think of flatpak as it's own mini distribution running atop your distribution of choice if you will.

If the game is on Steam, simply run it from flatpak Steam and it will keep working. If they are not on Steam, then run them via Lutris, Heroic Games Launcher, Minigalaxy, Faugus Launcher, Cartridges, Bottles the choices are endless they all have the 32bit runtimes made available to them. This way nobody needs to package said application as a flatpak.

Mark my words: "There is not a single application I can not run on my 64bit (immutable and rolling release) distribution. As long as it is technically possible to run said software on Linux at all obviously."

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I will now end the discussion with you at this point as it seems to me you lack vital knowledge here to take this discussion any further. I wish you all the best and thank you for your time.

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I used GeForce NOW for a month on my Linux computer to play Rainbow Six: Siege. There was subtly too much input delay, and the 3 hour session limit was annoying, plus the inability to make use of Steam Recording was annoying. I gave up and just kept dual-booting Windows, which is a better experience for free.

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Steam, Moonlight, Greenlight, and Chiaki-ng (Chiaki4deck) all stream really well from home PCs, Xbox, PS4/PS5. The battery life is awesome and it works much better than I expected.

The Steam Deck might as well be the Stream Deck it works so well.

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hi
I think I am going to stick with ProtonUp-Qt. I tried the Flatpak version, but there was no option to switch the theme to the dark theme. I am running Linux Mint Cinnamon with a dark theme. If or when I get the time, I am going to look into building from source

IMHO, if I were going to develop an application for Linux, I would never touch libadwaita or any new ui libraries from GNOME

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even the higher-ups are part of the team that made that game happen. It's THEIR baby, too

Exactly. And they are the ones who know for a fact that, in twenty years' time, nostalgia will kick in (if it even takes that long), and peopleconsumers will be ready for the second round. And who is to say there can be only one remaster/-vival/-imagined/-make cashgrab.

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Well then that's really not a solution. So first of all, it involves massive duplication of effort. If every individual app is individually re-doing the work, then the maintenance the Fedora people don't want to do once would have to be done hundreds or thousands of times. That's insanely stupid.

But wait, it gets worse! Much of the point here is precisely about apps, such as old games, that people want to use but which are not maintained and furthermore are not open source. There is nobody to package them, let alone each do all this individual compiling of libraries. And it would probably be illegal for anybody to try. I suppose someone could make a Flatpak for a game without the actual game files, with instructions for people who own the game on how to stick the actual game files into the Flatpak. Sounds like just a marvelous approach! Not.

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Nice!!!! I recently finished the story and this is a pleasant surprise. More FSR 4 titles are always welcome

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Flatpaks have to get the libraries somewhere, why are so many people ignoring this?

Huh? I don't see this getting ignored. Flathub is not reliant on Fedora to have 32bit support. It has it's own runtimes compiled from sources. Which are maintained by the respective upstream or the community itself.

Edit: As for individual apps, often times it's the developers or who ever takes care of the faltpak. If a developers/maintainer know they require 32bit than they can do it. There is full guide on how to get this setup if distributing on flathub: https://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/multiarch.html

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wow they are working directly with wine developers!
quite nice to see, that is the direction that all companies should do, but they dont. (that or working with valve)

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You're aware that something along these lines is already in place?!?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECall

Thank you for the link. I had never heard of it (I also do not own a car).

Not only is there no easy way to disable it, the system is also encumbered by patents allowing some patent troll to milk cash for free. Great design.

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I think you're a bit confused here. People who put their heart and soul in making the game, and people who shut it down, are rarely the same people.

I know what you're trying to say here, but even the higher-ups are part of the team that made that game happen. It's THEIR baby, too.

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> Why are people so happy to destroy their work they (used to) put their heart and soul in, instead of allowing it to live on?

I think you're a bit confused here. People who put their heart and soul in making the game, and people who shut it down, are rarely the same people.

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Has anyone tried setting SteamDeck=1 as a launch var? This is needed to make Space Marine 2's EAC implementation play along, so I wonder if it would work for this. That said, I have no interest in playing it, and am more so just curious to see if its anti-cheat is as asinine as I think it is.

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There is also a possible chance that large social platforms will start become less engaging by the masses with Age Verification (AV). This could push content creators that rely on Nexus for discussion and distribution towards more self-hosted or community forums and servers. Nexus might not like the fragmentation. Does Facebook and X-Twitter have AV? This might a be an indirect way to reduce consumer consumption of these CEO baddies.

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The game SourceCode is nice, but raw assets and tools for servers, level editors and documentation is also worth saving and publishing so you don't have to reverse engineer the game.

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Still no Flatpak packaging of their client and still no desktop Linux support?

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I do worry that in much of the world Linux is gaining traction but not in the country of our future overlords.

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Just don't trash it.

This is the part about the discussion that always baffled me. If a company demonstrates to be commercially done with a game by pulling the server plug and/or delisting it from shops... there is no sane reason not to release the files to the community. Not a single one. Nobody asks them put any maintenance work into it, other than dumping the files on a website for download, and move on.

Why are people so happy to destroy their work they (used to) put their heart and soul in, instead of allowing it to live on?

Same as with the recent wave of games that got stopped mid-production. Like the Sims clone "Life by You" that got dropped when it was almost completed? There would have been no harm done in releasing the project files and let the community have some fun with the code. Much better than just dumping years of hard work into the trash.

I don't get it.

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It's pretty good to have that tool into the steamdeck arsenal. Many AAA title are demanding hardware speaking. It's also more and more rare that it have good replay value, so it's definitly great option to play it with good quality settings on this device.

Steamdeck is already able to do so many things just like a pc with a well thought console interface and versatility. (Emulation of your old consoles, small linux tools accessible, convertible into a small pc you can plug on tv for movies or office work...).

I'm not into streaming services especially with with slow internet, but I'd say the more the better.

I guess this way of playing is also good for battery life.

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It really is impressive. For me, less impressive than Stadia, which felt like a more streamlined experience, but nevertheless, still mind blowing if you think about it.
You lay on your couch or bed playing Destiny 2 on your Steam Deck, no wires no nothing, and you don't feel like your game is actually running on a system (in my case) hundreds of km away. You know it, but it doesn't feel that way. Yes, there is an amount of lag that prohibits competitive type of games, but for casuals like me is like magic. Whatever technical trickery they're employing, it feels like is running on your device.
I mean, there is less lag that on PS3 for example (where I got hooked on Destiny 1, go figure).

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1M reached!

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Thanks for the updates. I doubt Linux OS' will ever overthrow Windows, but it's nice to be taken seriously for once.

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Good detail on how to proton things directly in Steam; I follow the exact same procedure for regular windows games too and just skip Heroic/Lutris/Similar entirely.

Personally I can't stand the UIs of either Heroic or Lutris, and the vast majority of the time it's simple enough to just add them to Steam with most of my other games anyway.

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i use moonlight often on my Steamdeck.

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I guess if there'd really be legislation mandating the preservation of 'old' games, all we'll really get is a faster transition to streaming services. No "buying" (licensing) of the game any more, just a couple more subscriptions to libraries of ever-changing content.

Also solves cheating in multiplayer games. Win-win for the industry.

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If it happens you get redirected to their server inaccessibility site, re-open the original link. A refresh will stay on that sorry page.

I just hope this is real interaction, and not some kind of botting. The topic itself is worth being addressed, no matter if we pay for a game license or not. It's something worth preserving. If the publisher doesn't see any more value in their game, okay... let the community take over. Just don't trash it.

This is even a chance for a new market field, a software or plugin that allows for micro transactions, paid servers etc... and when coming to an end, flip a switch and allow for community hosted servers.

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