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Rich Geldreich Who Worked On The VOGL OpenGL Debugger Has Left Valve
By , 10 June 2014 at 9:47 am UTC
You should drop the first part of the blog quote and just leave the part where he says he left Valve.

Any reasonable person is going to be unable to discern what Geldreich said versus what St. John said. The way it's pasted above, it actually looks like you're quoting Geldreich quoting St. John quoting Geldreich badmouthing OpenGL, which doesn't seem to be the case when you follow the links.
Alienware's Steam Machine Fully Announced, They Aren't Using SteamOS
By , 10 June 2014 at 9:42 am UTC
f%$*#ck off, alienware. stick with your microsoft plans and burn in hell for all eternity. stupid ass .dll freaks
Alienware's Steam Machine Fully Announced, They Aren't Using SteamOS
By , 10 June 2014 at 9:41 am UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: entropyIMHO this is a huge setback for (us) Linux enthusiasts.

If SteamOS isn't ready yet - mostly because of the lacking games (in contrast, the controller is a symmetric issue) - why didn't they just wait?

How about this theory: Those manufacturers don't feel comfortable with SteamOS and use this kind of head start with Windows-based systems to take focus away from a Linux-based system which they probably see as more problematic in terms of user experience and support.

I might be totally off track, though. :D

while that might be in valve interests, it is not in alienwares. they put R&D into this machine and if they wait 6 months, their hw solution is more or less obsolete. alienware is just salvaging their investment
Alienware's Steam Machine Fully Announced, They Aren't Using SteamOS
By , 10 June 2014 at 9:19 am UTC
Alienware can go to hell :(
Rich Geldreich Who Worked On The VOGL OpenGL Debugger Has Left Valve
By lave, 10 June 2014 at 9:18 am UTC Likes: 2
lol that name :D "Geldreich" is german and means hes got lots of money and then his parents decided to name him Rich.
Alienware's Steam Machine Fully Announced, They Aren't Using SteamOS
By , 10 June 2014 at 9:17 am UTC
As much as I love linux, Dell probably made a smart move business wise. I am suprised it took this long for someone to do it. It might not technically be a Proper steam machine, it's probably better atm because of the huge catalog for windows on steam. AND...
At least it will play Witcher 2 without a craptastic wrapper.
Alienware's Steam Machine Fully Announced, They Aren't Using SteamOS
By loggfreak, 10 June 2014 at 9:10 am UTC
Quoting: GuestSomeone say Dell?
my dad still uses one of these with a pentium 4 and 1gb ram, 40gb storage
Alienware's Steam Machine Fully Announced, They Aren't Using SteamOS
By , 10 June 2014 at 9:06 am UTC
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OpenRA New Release, An Open Source Engine For Early Westwood RTS Games
By , 10 June 2014 at 8:58 am UTC
I would've really liked to see a port like this for Red Alert 2 and Yuri's Revenge :'(
Alienware's Steam Machine Fully Announced, They Aren't Using SteamOS
By MaxPower, 10 June 2014 at 8:58 am UTC
Quoting: BillNyeTheBlackGuyBut I'm not worry; Valve always takes things slow and builds things up overtime. That's how steam became popular in the first place.
Exaclty!

Anyway I am not surprised coming from DELL
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/press/2014/mar14/03-26dellpatentlicensingpr.aspx
Alienware's Steam Machine Fully Announced, They Aren't Using SteamOS
By , 10 June 2014 at 8:57 am UTC
Or make a dualboot ...
Alienware's Steam Machine Fully Announced, They Aren't Using SteamOS
By , 10 June 2014 at 8:55 am UTC
Valve are falling behind dramatically, this isn't very good.

One of the really good things about Steam Machines (to begin with) is that they would be cheaper as you don't have to pay premium for having Windows installed, this negates that bonus. They should have just shipped it with ubuntu or something instead (or better yet, allow the buyer to choose)
Alienware's Steam Machine Fully Announced, They Aren't Using SteamOS
By , 10 June 2014 at 8:49 am UTC Likes: 2
I saw this coming when Valve pushed back the release date for the OS and controller.

But I'm not worry; Valve always takes things slow and builds things up overtime. That's how steam became popular in the first place.
Alienware's Steam Machine Fully Announced, They Aren't Using SteamOS
By abelthorne, 10 June 2014 at 8:34 am UTC
Yeah, I guess that they wouldn't report them to 2015 because of the delay for the OS & controller. And it's probable that other manufacturers will do the same. It's not a big surprise, they have to sell their hardware.

But there's a question nagging me: wasn't the point of the Valve partnership to have machines sold with SteamOS and the Steam pad? What about this "official Valve seal" if they change the specs? Is there a list of Steam Machines partners somewhere on Valve's website and is Alienware still listed there if so?
Alienware's Steam Machine Fully Announced, They Aren't Using SteamOS
By , 10 June 2014 at 8:33 am UTC Likes: 1
IMHO this is a huge setback for (us) Linux enthusiasts.

If SteamOS isn't ready yet - mostly because of the lacking games (in contrast, the controller is a symmetric issue) - why didn't they just wait?

How about this theory: Those manufacturers don't feel comfortable with SteamOS and use this kind of head start with Windows-based systems to take focus away from a Linux-based system which they probably see as more problematic in terms of user experience and support.

I might be totally off track, though. :D
Alienware's Steam Machine Fully Announced, They Aren't Using SteamOS
By jdub, 10 June 2014 at 8:31 am UTC
If they rush it and release early, history shows it will be disastrous....Valve knows exactly what they are doing
Alienware's Steam Machine Fully Announced, They Aren't Using SteamOS
By , 10 June 2014 at 8:30 am UTC Likes: 1
I would imagine that Alienware would have to stop calling them "steam machines" or "steam boxes" and would have to get rid of the Valve steam logo. There is no way Valve would let Alienware still market their system as a steam box, and the steam boxes haven't been released yet so Valve may talk them back into supporting the Steam OS (Linux) platform.

I still think valve should have either handled manufacturing the steam boxes themselves or at least try for a partnership with one manufacturer to make steam machines to Valve's specifications. After all, consoles are all about being a one size fits all kind of deal.
Alienware's Steam Machine Fully Announced, They Aren't Using SteamOS
By Sslaxx, 10 June 2014 at 8:30 am UTC
At this stage, I'm beginning to wonder if we'll ever see any actual Steam Machine, or even the controller. Valve's weaknesses as a software developer ("Valve Time", anyone?) really don't help hardware development.
Alienware's Steam Machine Fully Announced, They Aren't Using SteamOS
By , 10 June 2014 at 8:28 am UTC Likes: 1
Yep, quite logicless.

How it can be so long to make a "mantle"(not taking about the API) for Debian that work ?
They already got the Steam client ready, and the interface "big picture", and there new graphic manager already support Intel, nVidia and AMD chip(and it's great). So, why it take them so long to release SteamOS ?
Are working on something else ?
It is because of the controller ?

I'm quite disapointed having to wait more than half a year.
Alienware's Steam Machine Fully Announced, They Aren't Using SteamOS
By Beamboom, 10 June 2014 at 8:17 am UTC
I'm thinking perhaps this is a consequence of the delay of the controller and launch of the OS, could it be that Alienware had long planned this unveil and now rather frenetically changed this bundle to be able to deliver it on the market as planned?

I know, it's a rather thin theory but damn... You can't call a Windows PC a Steam Machine!
Pixel Boy And The Ever Expanding Dungeon Video & Thoughts, Plus A Free Key Give-away
By RuStAk, 10 June 2014 at 8:16 am UTC
I want to win.
Eador. Masters of the Broken World Strategy Game Releases Long Awaited Linux Version + DLC
By jdub, 10 June 2014 at 7:55 am UTC
Quoting: ImantsjdubHow did you get past this?

http://imgur.com/W9DMh20

http://imgur.com/S6FCKaGDo you have gforce ore radeon. I had same problem with my radeon video card but with gforce it plays fine.

I have a GTX 650 ti Boost with 331.79 drivers
Valve Are Funding A Big Change To Mesa, Should Improve Linux Graphical Performance
By berarma, 10 June 2014 at 7:39 am UTC
Quoting: GuestI'm still brushing up on everything Mesa (only got into properly once GL 3.3 was fully supported), but it seems this is an attempted replacement for current parsers & Mesa shader stack. Well, LunarGLASS has been around a little bit, but for Valve to fund them over "generic" Mesa, I do wonder at something else.
They're doing this for business motivations, and I do recall some mentions from the Steam Dev Days about wanting to provide shaders without full sources. That's not a part of the OpenGL spec, so perhaps this is an attempt to side-step the issue. Or that could just be me and a tin foil hat.

If that's true then shame on Valve. Of all the things they could help improve, closing the shaders source code is the most shameful one. I'm sure they're doing this for their profit, but I hoped it was something that would benefit us all.

We should be concerned that Valve's getting a lot of praise lately while other companies that have been constantly pushing GNU/Linux forward aren't recognized enough (someone rightly mentioned RedHat but not the only one).
Neon Struct Stealth Game Coming To Linux From The Developers Of Eldritch
By scaine, 10 June 2014 at 6:41 am UTC
Looks like there's a film (1920) by the same name. Any idea if there's a relation?
Pixel Boy And The Ever Expanding Dungeon Video & Thoughts, Plus A Free Key Give-away
By Beamboom, 10 June 2014 at 6:39 am UTC
Looks cool!
I'd love to win it, of course. :)
Pixel Boy And The Ever Expanding Dungeon Video & Thoughts, Plus A Free Key Give-away
By Alzarath, 10 June 2014 at 6:05 am UTC
'I want to win it'. Think I have this on my wishlist. Love this genre of game, could always use another.
Pixel Boy And The Ever Expanding Dungeon Video & Thoughts, Plus A Free Key Give-away
By Attila2099, 10 June 2014 at 5:33 am UTC
I'd love a key :)
Pixel Boy And The Ever Expanding Dungeon Video & Thoughts, Plus A Free Key Give-away
By minj, 10 June 2014 at 5:13 am UTC
Looks cool, I'd like one too
Pixel Boy And The Ever Expanding Dungeon Video & Thoughts, Plus A Free Key Give-away
By Hyeron, 10 June 2014 at 5:10 am UTC
I want it too. It's a nice change from typical dungeon crawlers.
Pixel Boy And The Ever Expanding Dungeon Video & Thoughts, Plus A Free Key Give-away
By Havoqq, 10 June 2014 at 5:10 am UTC
Yay, I want to win this! Looks awesome. Also, I like being able to play on an HD4000.
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