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I never really played any civ game, but it looks quiet nice. Fall 2014 is the release date, that is really no long wait :)

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I have had an eye on this game for a while now, ever since I started playing Mike singletons Lords of Midnight,on Android.

Good times...

For now, the hud seems a bit complicated, but I will need to play the game a little to understand the mechanics...

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Quoting: Alan ShawbridgeIt was treated like a third world citizen because it WAS. I was WAY behind D3D in terms of functionality and developer support.

I think you're mixing up cause and effect here. It started to lose ground in certain ways because it was treated like a third world citizen rather than being treated like a third world citizen because it was losing ground.

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The main page of Steam's store has changed ... I hope that it was not a prank ...

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For some reason I get terrible performance on my humble Intel HD4600. If it wasn't for that I would have bought it a long long time ago. Had so much fun with the demo last year.

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I just bought a Nvidia GTX 760 Ti SC last month.

All my previous cards have been nVidia for the last 10 years because of their Linux support.

I nearly bought a new AMD R9 270X but the YouTube videos of AMD on Linux put me off for 2014. The wife & little brothers Linux Gaming PCs need a upgrade soon so if AMD has a 95% open source drive in about a Year I'll totally buy in.

You hear that AMD? I want to buy stuff - but you need to make it superior to nVidia by pushing your Open Source Linux Driver first! Then, my next PC will be a AMD CPU, AMD Motherboard & NorthBridge Chipset and AMD Video Card. You want my money? Cuz this is how you get my money.

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May be some Steam users can contact Valve and ask whether the recent ad about Witcher 3 on SteamOS was legit or it was a prank?

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Quoting: berarmaI think the same but I'm concerned that the games I buy may stop working next year or when I decide to move my gaming to a new GNU/Linux box I build myself. The complexity added by middleware wrappers like eON can make it difficult for me to run the game anywhere and when I want.

I hadn't considered that, to be honest. Fair point. I'm not sure if the linux version of UT2004 can be considered native, but that won't even work for me anymore, whereas it works perfectly under wine.

QuoteWine seems a better solution for me since it's opensource. This removes dependence from any company. Not saying Wine is perfect, I don't like it, still adds an unwanted layer of complexity and has its own quirks and problems, but I could get my hands in it.

I do use wine for most of my linux gaming, but I'm constantly frustrated by how much they're held back. Not only is dx9 support STILL incomplete, but it seems like they don't really care about dx10/11 support. Where does that leave us? Some sort of wine wrapper might be an option, if the game dev works with the wine team to make sure it works acceptably, and all the wine improvements got shared, of course.

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I've been having a lot of fun with this; I hope the developer brings it to mobile, I'd certainly buy it :)

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Except for Steam integration for achievements.

Which are currently broken on Linux, at least for me: http://steamcommunity.com/app/302950/discussions/0/540743757481750153/

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That thing was written on Ren'Py if I'm not wrong (meaning porting this from windows to linux should have been no harder than just packaging it lol)

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This is an interesting development for open source drivers. Good thing for people with Intel and intergrated AMD cards (You shouldn't use a dedicated AMD card on Linux as is, that's just bad luck)

Speaking of which I have two laptops which can both benefit from this. Cool :)

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Quoting: omer666

Quoting: AnonymousAt the same time, I still don't really care if Nvidia (or anyone else) sticks to proprietary drivers, I just care about the result, if it works well then I'm happy.

Well, I am an nVidia customer, I run Arch Linux, and as such, I would REALLY want them to go open source, to the extent that I even consider going AMD in a few years if things keep on going that way. There are several open source improvements as of lately that really need vendors to clarify their position. For example, it is important for nVidia to do something about KMS and Wayland. We just CAN'T do without Wayland in the future (or MIR, whatever...). As time goes by, Flash slowly disappears, Mozilla's Shumway continues to improve towards its final state, Intel and AMD will soon work better than ever on open source only systems. We finally have the opportunity to run fully open source OS, nVidia needs to do something about this, because if they don't, I'll switch to something else. I don't expect games to be open source because they are works of art and include a part of intellectual propriety, which makes the whole thing much harder to sort out. But for a damn driver... come on ! New versions still break things badly, on GNOME desktop as well as KDE, things that could have been prevented by publishing the damn source code.

Well, so far their Linux drivers been really good, when it comes to performance, on Valve games they are mostly on pair with the Windows ones for me. However if that changes in the future or AMD simply gets ahead of the game, I will most likely switch. I don't understand the Wayland reference, I though there was a problem with Mir (lack of support).
My guess is the reason why their drivers are not open source is because they include some of Nvidia's technology, which they want to keep for them self.

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Quoting: AnonymousAt the same time, I still don't really care if Nvidia (or anyone else) sticks to proprietary drivers, I just care about the result, if it works well then I'm happy.

Well, I am an nVidia customer, I run Arch Linux, and as such, I would REALLY want them to go open source, to the extent that I even consider going AMD in a few years if things keep on going that way. There are several open source improvements as of lately that really need vendors to clarify their position. For example, it is important for nVidia to do something about KMS and Wayland. We just CAN'T do without Wayland in the future (or MIR, whatever...). As time goes by, Flash slowly disappears, Mozilla's Shumway continues to improve towards its final state, Intel and AMD will soon work better than ever on open source only systems. We finally have the opportunity to run fully open source OS, nVidia needs to do something about this, because if they don't, I'll switch to something else. I don't expect games to be open source because they are works of art and include a part of intellectual propriety, which makes the whole thing much harder to sort out. But for a damn driver... come on ! New versions still break things badly, on GNOME desktop as well as KDE, things that could have been prevented by publishing the damn source code.

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They could rename it Black Mesa while they're at it :)

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Quoting: Stephen MurcottYes I will buy it if it comes out for Linux. Only after I finish Witcher 2 though, have not had such fun with an RPG for years. The issues on the Linux version of Witcher 2 for me were addressed really quickly and I felt like the devs at CDprojekt were really paying attention to the Linux community and willing to fix the issues as a priority. Really great to have a AAA title on my favorite OS.

Play also Witcher 1 if you didn't yet. It's also a lot of fun (it works nicely in Wine).

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Yes I will buy it if it comes out for Linux. Only after I finish Witcher 2 though, have not had such fun with an RPG for years. The issues on the Linux version of Witcher 2 for me were addressed really quickly and I felt like the devs at CDprojekt were really paying attention to the Linux community and willing to fix the issues as a priority. Really great to have a AAA title on my favorite OS.

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Quoting: GNUzel

Quoting: ShmerlI also start wondering whether the whole thing was a prank of someone who hacked Steam's front page :) Since there was no official announcement from either Valve or CD Projket Red. And actual Steam preorder page doesn't list Linux at all.

Oddly enough, the ad isn't there anymore. I couldn't imagine someone doing it as a joke though.

Why not? Pranksters can come up with weird ideas. Valve would have commented on such prank however. The whole thing looks somewhat weird.

I don't know. The fact that the ad went down is really weird. I see multiple websites supporting the fact that they saw the ad, and if Valve removed it for being a prank than we would know. Maybe CD Red decided they weren't ready for a Linux port yet? Or something else is going on. I've seen games for sale without Linux versions before. (Metro Last Light in the beginning) so I am not sure what to make of this. I'll wait for a more definite word from one of the two although that seemed pretty definite to me.

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Quoting: GNUzel

Quoting: ShmerlI also start wondering whether the whole thing was a prank of someone who hacked Steam's front page :) Since there was no official announcement from either Valve or CD Projket Red. And actual Steam preorder page doesn't list Linux at all.

Oddly enough, the ad isn't there anymore. I couldn't imagine someone doing it as a joke though.

Why not? Pranksters can come up with weird ideas. Valve would have commented on such prank however. The whole thing looks somewhat weird.

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Quoting: ShmerlI also start wondering whether the whole thing was a prank of someone who hacked Steam's front page :) Since there was no official announcement from either Valve or CD Projket Red. And actual Steam preorder page doesn't list Linux at all.

Oddly enough, the ad isn't there anymore. I couldn't imagine someone doing it as a joke though.

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Quoting: FutureSuture

Quoting: FTW

Quoting: Anonymous

Quoting: FTW

Quoting: FutureSutureAnother reason for me to feel safe with switching to an AMD GPU soon. Thanks, Valve!

How does that fix AMD's crappy drivers? :/

It doesn't we are on the Linux because we prefer open source software, and AMD leads there. I don't care how crappy their proprietary drivers they understand the power of open source.

So their excuse for providing crappy drivers is because you should use open source drivers? Sound like you just made that up in an attempt to defend their lack of love for Linux, also aren't open source drivers by by their community and not them? I heard they are making some progress though in terms of the propriety drivers, have they changed their mind?

For now I rather stay with Nvidia and Intel, I couldn’t care less if the driver is open source or not, I will just pick whatever has the best performance, compatibility and stability.

Where exactly did he say that that is AMD's excuse for poor proprietary drivers? AMD employs at least 6 full time developers who work on its open source driver and who have made tremendous strides over the past year, making the open source driver close in performance to and far, far more stable than AMD's proprietary driver. The proprietary driver is improving, but the open source driver is improving faster. AMD has even detailed its plan to drop the proprietary driver and go with the open source driver (likely because the proprietary driver is such a mess), instead offering proprietary bits to use on top of the open source driver for game optimisations. When it comes to AMD, performance, compatibility and stability dictate that one should use the open source driver.

Oh in that case that's quite awesome I have to admit. I didn't know they actually hired people to work on them, my bad. Well if they actually drop the proprietary drivers in general and use open source ones as their officials ones, that's great. One of my friends is planning on buying one of the cheaper Steam machines, which is apparently going to have an AMD card. I was worried about their drivers because SteamOS would probably use the proprietary ones by default, however if they are going fully open source then that's no longer a problem.

At the same time, I still don't really care if Nvidia (or anyone else) sticks to proprietary drivers, I just care about the result, if it works well then I'm happy.

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Quoting: ubuntumanThey need to do 2 things for me to want to buy it:
1. Make a real Linux port
2. Make Triss more attractive :D

The game also has Yennefer.

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They need to do 2 things for me to want to buy it:
1. Make a real Linux port
2. Make Triss more attractive :D

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In my opinion, Cryengine is the best looking engine out there. I can't wait to get this!!

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Quoting: FTW

Quoting: Anonymous

Quoting: FTW

Quoting: FutureSutureAnother reason for me to feel safe with switching to an AMD GPU soon. Thanks, Valve!

How does that fix AMD's crappy drivers? :/

It doesn't we are on the Linux because we prefer open source software, and AMD leads there. I don't care how crappy their proprietary drivers they understand the power of open source.

So their excuse for providing crappy drivers is because you should use open source drivers? Sound like you just made that up in an attempt to defend their lack of love for Linux, also aren't open source drivers by by their community and not them? I heard they are making some progress though in terms of the propriety drivers, have they changed their mind?

For now I rather stay with Nvidia and Intel, I couldn’t care less if the driver is open source or not, I will just pick whatever has the best performance, compatibility and stability.

Where exactly did he say that that is AMD's excuse for poor proprietary drivers? AMD employs at least 6 full time developers who work on its open source driver and who have made tremendous strides over the past year, making the open source driver close in performance to and far, far more stable than AMD's proprietary driver. The proprietary driver is improving, but the open source driver is improving faster. AMD has even detailed its plan to drop the proprietary driver and go with the open source driver (likely because the proprietary driver is such a mess), instead offering proprietary bits to use on top of the open source driver for game optimisations. When it comes to AMD, performance, compatibility and stability dictate that one should use the open source driver.

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I also start wondering whether the whole thing was a prank of someone who hacked Steam's front page :) Since there was no official announcement from either Valve or CD Projket Red. And actual Steam preorder page doesn't list Linux at all.

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Quoting: Anonymous

Quoting: FTW

Quoting: FutureSutureAnother reason for me to feel safe with switching to an AMD GPU soon. Thanks, Valve!

How does that fix AMD's crappy drivers? :/

It doesn't we are on the Linux because we prefer open source software, and AMD leads there. I don't care how crappy their proprietary drivers they understand the power of open source.

So their excuse for providing crappy drivers is because you should use open source drivers? Sound like you just made that up in an attempt to defend their lack of love for Linux, also aren't open source drivers by by their community and not them? I heard they are making some progress though in terms of the propriety drivers, have they changed their mind?

For now I rather stay with Nvidia and Intel, I couldn’t care less if the driver is open source or not, I will just pick whatever has the best performance, compatibility and stability.

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Quoting: FutureSuture

Quoting: berarmaI think Mesa improvements are good for EVERYONE. I'd like Mesa made propietary OpenGL drivers irrelevant and that manufacturers like AMD, Nvidia and Intel just distributed Mesa drivers.

AMD and Intel are on that path, but Nvidia? ;)

Even Nvidia to an extent :P

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Quoting: SslaxxLLVM, yet again proving itself to be a wonder tech.

A wondererous awesome piece of software my brain cannot understand :P. But it is cool.

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