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Quoting: berarmamaybe it's just VP trying to demo and sell their product

Well if it's the case they won't sell loads of it :p

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In what way do you mean "crappy 8bit era game"?

1) You lambast a few specific crappy games
or
2) All 8bit era games are crappy

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Porting TW2 to GNU/Linux using eON doesn't say much about any commitment. Any game ported using these new wrapper technologies are most probably experiments and maybe it's just VP trying to demo and sell their product.

Reading some say that anything is better than no port at all about TW2 makes me wish TW3 turns out to be like a crappy 8bit era game that you can waste your time on while you repeat the mantra "anything is better than nothing". :D

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To me it seems we'e entering a phase of seperating the wheat from the chaff.
Game companies will start test-baloons to see with which shortcuts they'll get away.
For us that means that what we accept now, we'll never get rid of for a long time.

For Witcher 3 we have at this point a not too detailed promise, while recent history teaches not not fork over full price or even more for just a promise.
How the Linux version will look like is pure speculation. That's exactly why, from a Linux gamer perspective, it is a super dumb idea to pre-order this game or even buy it untested.
For all I know they might do a proper native version or try to pull some Wine cooperation or whatnot to get this running.

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When CDPR shares information on what kind of port it will be only then I will click the preorder button. But Witcher 3 on Linux is really good news nevertheless.

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Quoting: GNUzelI need to play the Witcher 2 before I can buy this one but I am kind of excited to see it. I am considering the collector's edition but I am not sure how that'll fit in with buying it for Linux. Would I be able to use the game assets from the DVD with a Linux binary or something? ... Hmm.

I'm pretty sure you'll be able to register the game in your GOG library and download the digital version (Windows + Mac + Linux) from there when it's available. You won't get a Steam key, though.

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Well, we will see, I guess. Just remember what I predict; I intend to be a smug asshole about it afterwards. You're free to do the same in the unlikely case I'm wrong. :P

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No fallback mode there. Their engine requires features like tessellation and they aren't optional. So DX9 didn't work for them at all.

Since engine is intended not for them only, we should expect high performance on all platforms.

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Quoting: Anonymous"if you're lucky it will run nice, if not... you're screwed"

For what it's worth, I never expected my old Athlon 64 X2 6000+ with 4GB RAM and a GeForce GT 630 to run Witcher 2 smoothly.

With all options dialed down, it is barely playable, though, at least the tutorial. I seem to be getting about 20 FPS (maybe a bit lower, I have high tolerance for low FPS). It dips down to annoyingly low during the Geralt close-up while speaking to the soldier/knight person. And when the mage appeared during the final arena battle, I died because my system needed several seconds per frame. Interestingly enough, the mage before the final battle didn't provoke that.

Quoting: ShmerlI'm not aware of any wrappers which can translate DX11 into OpenGL 4 at the moment.

I expect they will have a fallback renderer based on an older DirectX version, and that one will be used when wrapped through eON.

Quoting: Shmerlmaking an inferior support for Linux is not in their interest at all.

I think they made quite clear that having proper Linux support is not in their interest at all. Not "financially feasible" and all that jazz. Which was uttered by both GOG and CD Projekt RED people alike.

One of the reasons I'm still sceptical about GOG's Linux plans. I still half expected them to even do stupid things like wrapping a Windows build of ScummVM in Wine or something like that.

Yes, I am that cynical, thank you very much.

Quoting: SirBubblesperhaps restrain their emotions just a tad where Eon is concerned

I reject the whole idea of eON, out of principle. Even if all games would run smoothly and rainbows would fart out of my monitor, I'd still reject it. I only barely tolerate Unity's Mono stuff or games using Adobe AIR.

Quoting: SirBubblesAt lease CDProjekt did a better job with porting Witcher 2 to linux

They didn't. The eON people did.

CD Projekt RED don't give a rat's arse. They didn't even have a community person in the Steam forums. No, instead someone from Virtual Programming came in there on his own time. That alone tells you a lot.

CD Projekt RED don't get credit from me for throwing the game at Virtual Programming and then running away.

Quoting: earthmoverW3 comes out on PS4 so they already have OpenGL version.

I may be talking more bullshit than usual here, but weren't there news reports about how the PS4 does DirectX? Not that I have any idea about consoles at all.

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Quoting: earthmoverW3 comes out on PS4 so they already have OpenGL version.

Not necessarily. On PS4 it can be using PSSL.

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W3 comes out on PS4 so they already have OpenGL version.

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Just want to give a warning to anyone thinking about buying the game, it doesnt start for many of us on 64-bit as of now. Here's a thread about it: http://steamcommunity.com/app/280540/discussions/0/522729358724607663/

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Well, if they do a proper port then yes.

But I doubt that very much after all the crap they have fed us about Linux Support on GOG and this W2 Wrapping Disaster. CDPR has no experience or much knowledge about supporting Linux.

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Been waiting for this release. The game takes heavy inspiration from the late Mike Singleton's Lords of Midnight, which is by far the most "Tolkien" game ever made, even though it's set in its own world. I got the LoM remake on Android not so long ago, but this is a more updated take on the formula.

Anyhoo, activating purchasetron!

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Lots of hyperbole coming from a lot of people on this. :( Makes me sad. I don't really understand why Witcher 2 runs well on my machine and not others, but the fact is that it does, aside from slow level loading due to running on only one cpu core. I do wish that people could perhaps restrain their emotions just a tad where Eon is concerned and wait and see if things improve.
At lease CDProjekt did a better job with porting Witcher 2 to linux than From Software did of porting Dark Souls to PC. Give them some credit.

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It was treated like a third world citizen because it WAS. I was WAY behind D3D in terms of functionality and developer support.

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Have you seen the games? About 90% of them are simply awful.

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Quoting: DrMcCoyNo way this is going to be a proper port. And, like I said, I'm willing to bet 10€.

In either case, I'm not really that much into the Witcher series. I just can't stand Geralt. Cyberpunk 2077, however...

I'm not aware of any wrappers which can translate DX11 into OpenGL 4 at the moment. Unless it's some WIP which wasn't published yet. So chances are high that it's a native port of their engine. Also, don't forget that unlike with the engine from the Witcher 2, CD Projekt Red plan to release their newest engine for other developers to use, so making an inferior support for Linux is not in their interest at all.

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These are really breaking news. I'll buy it on GOG as soon as CD Projekt Red will confirm the news officially.

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Quoting: Anonymous

Quoting: GoCorinthiansPre-ordered it! Dont care if it will be a wrapper.

Buy a decent PC, Im running at maxsettings(ubber of).

that unfortunately doesn't fly in w2 case. i read how people with much beefier machines can't pass 10fps.

i'm running it on 9800gt at 720p (my tv) without single problem and no frame drops whatsoever. and to make it even worse, friend is running it without problems on old amd and nvidia 520. then 3rd friend has 780gtx and i7, while his game is completely unplayable even at same settings as me. go figure

it can help if you try reading the git issues users posted, but if you're unlucky probably all you can do is wait for update. still, at least developers are pretty active in communication in that git

beefier machines = GT 210 lol. pff

"3rd friend has 780gtx and i7" pff, GTX 770 4GB(Windforce) can run it at 40FPS maxsettings/1080p under Eon. In windows I can even surpass 51FPS(ubber on)

Kubuntu User!

wonder what the point of your comment was, since it makes 0 sense. there is no "this hw runs and this one doesn't" in w2 case, it is just "if you're lucky it will run nice, if not... you're screwed"

doesn't matter if you went into the future with McCoys time machine and use i9 with 880GTX.

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Quoting: ZikzakOh sh... Steam only.
Do they plan a DRM-free version of their game?

Anybody have any idea if this ACTUALLY has DRM instead of just being misinformed that all Steam games have DRM. Plenty of Steam games have none and run just fine without Steam running or even installed. Steam just keeps them up to date for you if you happen to run it before launching.

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The fact is, I'm going to be a damn stupid consumer on this one, and as I fear that it may run like the 2nd instalment on my Linux rig, I won't buy it until problems are actually fixed.

Oh and the "buy a decent PC" is the very reason why I'm upset about this : I've actually got one. And performance is definitely horrible.

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We appreciate the attention :)

Just for the sake of clarity:
1) not all the tools can be (cross-)compiled for Linux (yet)
2) there are still a lot of bugs/rough edges even in ones that can be.

Realistically, it will take several more releases to get to the point where Linux can be used for developing UE4 games, so don't hold your breath.

However, shipping UE Linux games/demos is possible even now (developing and packaging them from Windows), and we encourage trying that for the sake of better testing.

P.S. Here are a few screenshots of UFE running on Linux (scroll down), contributed by Amigo: https://wiki.unrealengine.com/Building_On_Linux.

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There are people playing now, 2 populated servers actually

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Looks pretty interesting. I'd like to have a demo to try.

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Quoting: Berillions@FutureSuture : Trine and TW2 are not the same thing ...
It's more difficult to port natively TW2 than Trine. TW2 = AAA, Trine = Indies.

I already tackled that.

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Quoting: MikeAlso, the use of dubstep in their trailer. It was crap 5 years ago, just because it's crossed the pond now doesn't mean it should be used in every trailer, let's play video and review - it still sounds like a robot vomiting into my ears. I'm seriously hoping the in-game music isn't like that...

Normally, just from these two things I wouldn't buy the game out of principle, but given the serious lack of racing games on Linux and my love for the Wipeout games, I will let them off the hook.

I must say the in-game music is totally not like the trailers music, i find the in-game music tracks personally one of the best (non dub step fan here) :-).

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Also, the use of dubstep in their trailer. It was crap 5 years ago, just because it's crossed the pond now doesn't mean it should be used in every trailer, let's play video and review - it still sounds like a robot vomiting into my ears. I'm seriously hoping the in-game music isn't like that...

Normally, just from these two things I wouldn't buy the game out of principle, but given the serious lack of racing games on Linux and my love for the Wipeout games, I will let them off the hook.

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Quoting: Anonymous

Quoting: GoCorinthiansPre-ordered it! Dont care if it will be a wrapper.

Buy a decent PC, Im running at maxsettings(ubber of).

that unfortunately doesn't fly in w2 case. i read how people with much beefier machines can't pass 10fps.

i'm running it on 9800gt at 720p (my tv) without single problem and no frame drops whatsoever. and to make it even worse, friend is running it without problems on old amd and nvidia 520. then 3rd friend has 780gtx and i7, while his game is completely unplayable even at same settings as me. go figure

it can help if you try reading the git issues users posted, but if you're unlucky probably all you can do is wait for update. still, at least developers are pretty active in communication in that git

beefier machines = GT 210 lol. pff

"3rd friend has 780gtx and i7" pff, GTX 770 4GB(Windforce) can run it at 40FPS maxsettings/1080p under Eon. In windows I can even surpass 51FPS(ubber on)

Kubuntu User!

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Quoting: DeformalStrange thing. People hope to get on Linux better port, than on Mac.
Nobody don`t want to know about Mac ports. But Linux get port from Metro last ligth of same quality as Mac port. Witcher 2 get equal ports for Mac and Linux.
So if game get bad port on Mac, don`t expect to get good port on Linux because games get Mac os port first.

Metro: Last Light Redux, however, is only coming out for Linux and Windows so the Linux version will not be held back by the Mac OS version this time. Metro 2033 Redux is only coming out for Linux and Windows as well.

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