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Quoting: dpanterWhy. 🤮

I think the idea is fine: stop giving your data to "AI" companies that keep promising magical capabilities with no real-world data to back it up, and host it yourself.
However, when "AI" is self-hosted, I think the generally negative cost-to-benefit ratio of the whole thing becomes even more apparent, and there's no social media pressure to "just use this model instead, bro, I swear it's better, pinky-promise you're missing out / falling behind / won't get to hang with the cool kids".

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I mean... yeah, this is probably how this madness should have started a couple of years ago, instead of dumping everything into 3rd party "AI" companies, it should have been on-premise and openly developed, but I also think this is too little, too late now.
This won't have a marketing hype machine behind it - which is largely what's still driving the bubble - so I don't know how far this will get.

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Quoting: LoudTechie- also applies to IOT and servers.

This is the funniest part. Whose age should I set on the fridge? Mine, or the yogurt's? 😆

Anyway it's nothing particularly new. When I set up gmail accounts for my kids, I just added 10 years or whatever, so they don't get blocked from accessing stuff and I don't get pestered with requests for permission or whatever. If I installed such age-requiring OS today, I would do the same.

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Why. 🤮

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No. No more.

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Quoting: ScottCarammelllike I said with the california bill, would *love* to see how this would be enforced with open-source software redistributed through a billion different services with no personal ownership by any person or entity

Now I've read the law I know and understand.
It lies in the "let parents decide" part of the "let parents decide" act.
Devices without it can't be sold in the USA.
Also the big maintainers(Linus, KDE, FSF, RHEL, etc) will face pressure to add the feature.
In the end it will become a build option to add and not add this.

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Quoting: GerarderloperThat'll stop those Operating Systems exploiting young children...........................................................................................................................................................🤔

Ahem Windows, but also its a central function of the OS to actively protect against outside threats, so stopping child exploitation prevention is a lot easier to market as an OS feature than for most other things.

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Quoting: Chinstrap Well that's good. The moment I heard the developer went to jail I thought the game had little chance to survive.

Glad I'm wrong.

In jail one has all the time to work on their design and out of jail many opportunities that might've once distracted one from completing the game disappear.
Both, because of parole rules and because of background requirements.

Edit:
This also works in dating.

non-criminal dev: I'm going to slow down my development, because I just started a relationship that deserves my time.
criminal dev: Most potential partners avoid me, because I've been proven to be violent in court, but I still have as much time as in the past, so I'll focus on the activities where people don't have to avoid violent people, since they're unreachable to them.

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Well that's good. The moment I heard the developer went to jail I thought the game had little chance to survive.

Glad I'm wrong.

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Quoting: LoudTechieThere's one thing I hope AI'll bring the ability for non-technical people to check source code for backdoors.

This just results in low quality / incorrect bug reports, wasting the time of whoever has to review them.

You don't report backdoors to reviewers.
They already approved them and thus presumably stand behind them.
You publish them on social media(as demonstrated by the xz-backdoor)
What it can result in is dumb social media discussions about when something is a backdoor.

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My review.
+ Totally implementable.
+ not a giant big tech boon.
+ simple law
- easy to circumvent.
- I don't trust them to not turn this in something problematic.
- also applies to IOT and servers.

This will mostly result in the automation of these cookie banner like age gates.

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Quoting: grigiIt doesn't make sense to have this kind of data attached to a device like a computer. My kids will just as happily use Grans computer (or ours) as the school computer to fiddle around on Scratch for example.

None of the computers are "theirs", they are not the primary users.

In what world do they expect even well off people like us to provision a separate computer for each person? The kids don't need their own thing, they also shouldn't have unfettered access to screens, so they won't get their own system until they can acquire one themselves.

It's not attached to the computer it's attached to the user account(poor FreeBSD doesn't have accounts)

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Quoting: Savor592What if I want to use my device offline? Never connect it to the internet. Old game consoles?

Just this single requirement has already so many problems attached to it.

The law actually doesn't seem to specify being online.
It puts limits on how this data when shared online should be used, but not that it must be shared online.

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Nice thing about these games is that they’re pickup and go.

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This is the "foot in the door". Once the opening is established then we all know what will follow.

Very, very sad and frustrating times lay ahead.

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Big tech will have nigh universal, preemptive permission to assume indemnity because said user claimed to be an adult via operating system attestation. It's for the chiwwwdrin! 🙄

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The case about licenses is a valid one. As the AI generated code license could really conflict with the project license as you don't really know from where it was taken.

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Saw the post on Steam. Glad they're out of prison.

The game has a lot going for it, so I'm looking forward to seeing what comes next.

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What if I want to use my device offline? Never connect it to the internet. Old game consoles?

Just this single requirement has already so many problems attached to it.

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It doesn't make sense to have this kind of data attached to a device like a computer. My kids will just as happily use Grans computer (or ours) as the school computer to fiddle around on Scratch for example.

None of the computers are "theirs", they are not the primary users.

In what world do they expect even well off people like us to provision a separate computer for each person? The kids don't need their own thing, they also shouldn't have unfettered access to screens, so they won't get their own system until they can acquire one themselves.

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LLAP

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If you want to give them the benefit of the doubt: it may be fixing some not yet public CVEs.

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I was waffling on the recent sale; now I'm glad I went for it.

Neither the developer or publisher have anything else listed on Steam, so with this game being removed, they surely won't survive (if they haven't already folded).

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Quoting: JarmerI guess there's reasons for it, but ... I suppose this is a perfect example of "don't buy ea games yall".

It really depends. Some games are absolutely safe to purchase in early access.
Factorio was a blast way before it fully released and would have been "fine" even if development had stopped the moment you purchased it back when.
Same for Caves Of Qud, same for DRG: Survivors, same for Palworld, and many more.

What all of this is really an example of is: "Don't purchase blindly. Do your research."

This game in particular had quite a few red flags when looking into it (most of all a clearly unsustainable vision unless it would've been a mass success, which seems impossible given the lack of mass appeal), long before this announcement.
Then a VERY lengthy stay in early access (this can go well, but is definitely a flag).
Then the issues they kept dancing around through their updates.
Then the update pace.
I'm sure there would be more.

And it's not like purchasing games that are not in early access is safe from purchasing an unfinished game in any way, I'm sure I don't need to give examples here...

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Quoting: LoudTechieThere's one thing I hope AI'll bring the ability for non-technical people to check source code for backdoors.

This just results in low quality / incorrect bug reports, wasting the time of whoever has to review them.

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Boy, that sure is Dramatic.... 😅

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One of the biggest issues with modding Windows games under Linux is related to RETRO games, or OLD GAMES which have OLD windows tools that don't like wine for whatever reason.

A good example of this is the modding tools for Dragon Age Inquisition, and I think DA2 as well. But there are many other examples where the modding tools straight up have a fit under wine! resulting in almost all mods being unusable!

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That'll stop those Operating Systems exploiting young children...........................................................................................................................................................🤔

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Like many, I didn't even know it existed until now. And it looks like a decent Star Trek Flick game.

Is it a complete game or kind of broken development title?

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i can't wait for the multitudes of legislators supporting this nonsense to get hacked and their infomation changed to deny them acces to anything because they're too young.

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