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I honestly can't comprehend why people keep bothering with 'Native Linux'

PC ports used to be broken as hell in the 2000's, should they have stopped porting games to PC and instead relied on Valve to make an Xbox 360 emulator for their storefront? It'd give better compatibility after all and put less strain on the developers.

It's a shame they've chosen to do that. The desktop Linux market is significantly bigger than the Deck market.

I agree, hope this is temporary. Baldur's Gate 3 runs like complete garbage through Proton to me. Like a third of the game's total CPU usage is just Wine services, and it has all kinds of extremely distracting visual bugs I imagine are brought about by Proton as well. Every time I talk to NPCs their hair and background leaves start flickering with black boxes for no apparent reason.

Honestly if anything, the Steam Deck is the one device that DOESN'T need a native port.

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This looks so much fun for the Deck! Very much looking forward to leaving ea.

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pb: Will it work with only resource packs and without roms, something like freedoom?

It needs the NES ROM, but that file is not difficult to find.

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Just because they did some additional restauration with other titles doesn't mean they would or even can rework every game. They just make sure it runs on the current Windows (!) release.

That is correct, and I don't think this is wrong on its own, but you should still never take them at their word when they say it's "the best version of this game you can buy on any PC platform" to mean that you're gonna have an ideal experience with the game if it's one that got multiple releases. As I already mentioned, these games exist in way better forms in many other places and even back then, this collection was not considered high quality. That's the marketing stunt that's not very clear to many.

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This game does not include the actual Nintendo game data and requires you to provide your ROM so it's as clean as all the decompilation/recompilation ports we've been getting for N64 games recently. Unlikely Nintendo can do much unless you actually try sending over the game with the ROM.

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Already bought it, really liked that they were adding Steam Deck rating to each game :-)

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Oh! Wow! A Steam Deck only version?

A native Linux version or a Windows stripped down one?

Anyway, looking forward to compare the download sizes of both versions. It will probably take much less space and have better performances on the Steam Deck once every useless "assets" and options are removed.

If so, I like that!

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FWIW, the introduction of Proton didn't decrease the proportion of games on Steam that have native builds - that was on the decline since the failure of the Steam Machines. It did kill the third-party porting market, though.

... and with it the bigger games.

The thing that will bring the proportion back up is a bigger more lucrative market

... unless Linux gamers were saying for years and years that companies shouldn't port, maybe. Would be happy to be wrong on this one, but I'd prefer us to welcome ports. Well running ports, obviously.

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However, porting a game to Linux comes at a cost and unfortunately some publishers, only thinking about profits, give up on offering us native games under Linux to increase their profit margins which are already extremely high ;-(

The reason I buy native Linux games at full price but only buy Windows games at a steep discount is to pay for that support. My one wallet won't make a huge difference in the grand scheme of things, but it is putting my money where my mouth is.

FWIW, the introduction of Proton didn't decrease the proportion of games on Steam that have native builds - that was on the decline since the failure of the Steam Machines. It did kill the third-party porting market, though. The thing that will bring the proportion back up is a bigger more lucrative market, so developers won't want to risk offloading support of their game to Valve.

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go to discuss.kde.org, give your feedback on this feature. maybe devs will consider improving it, maybe they will tell you about some way to configure it you don't know about. just keep cool attitude, kde devs are very open minded.

Just when they changed that I did go there and found some other users are complaining already. The responsible for HDR on KDE is just one person. He declared that this issue is a "feature" and pointed that we all are wrong. Even when people say that when people relly on a certain wrongly behavior that "wrongly behavior" is not a problem but a feature the guy give the middle finger to everyone and closed the request saying that everyone in the thread doen't know what HDR really are and every other platform implemented HDR wrong and KDE will not behave like that (in a nutshell).

That guy is an idiot. EVERYONE controls SDR detached of pure HDR but KDE. It'll fix SDR to your paper white setting and THERE'S NOTHING one can do. BECAUSE THAT GUY IS AN IDIOT!

If you want to read the original thread it's here:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499934

Other people opened other threads about the same thing again and again only to be dismissed.

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I guess there's a workaround for this restriction, for the time the native version is ready?

Probably steamdeck=1.

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However, it seems like the developer Larian Studios are working on a Native Linux version specifically for the Steam Deck, which you can see in the depots on SteamDB with a Native Linux version set for Steam Deck only (if a depot is set for Steam Deck it's not available on Desktop Linux).

I guess there's a workaround for this restriction, for the time the native version is ready?

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@Stella

Buying games that are natively compatible with Linux means supporting our favorite OS and ensuring better compatibility than with Proton.

However, porting a game to Linux comes at a cost and unfortunately some publishers, only thinking about profits, give up on offering us native games under Linux to increase their profit margins which are already extremely high ;-(

Valve offers Linux game compatibility via Proton to all publishers who want it, however this is a cost to Valve and it would be normal for publishers to co-fund this development.

It must also be said that even though many games developed for Windows now run on Linux, they are not without bugs and / or graphical display issues. Sometimes you have to tinker a bit to get a game to work, and that's not necessarily within everyone's reach...

In short, Proton is great, but games natively supported on Linux are clearly better !!

PS

- Shadow of the Tomb Raider works great on Linux for me.

- ARK Survival Evolved was developed primarily for Windows, the Linux version has unfortunately never been so well optimized ;-(

- Portal 1 always worked perfectly on Linux until a recent update that caused it to crash when loading old saves ;-(

It's a shame that you only mention games that don't work well on Linux and not the ones that are top notch...

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"Cease And Desist" in 3-2-1…

Well, it does make sense here, doesn't it?

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​This wine version in my case dont show ntsync on mangohud like wine-git past week


Everybodys Golf HotShots

https://i.imgur.com/8JfKPKK.png

https://i.imgur.com/VYL9vGf.png


With this title need remove black bars but HxD work ok in my case


Cronos The New Dawn

https://i.imgur.com/3ffGyPo.png


on Dirt 3 benchmark results seems have very similar performance than 10.14

also this wine come with this:

Jacek Caban (8):
opengl32/tests: Add memory mapping tests.
opengl32: Simplify wow64 memory mapping error handling.
opengl32: Implement wrap_wglCreateContext on top of wrap_wglCreateContextAttribsARB.
opengl32: Factor out free_context.
opengl32: Introduce a wow64 buffer wrapper.
opengl32: Move copy buffer allocation to Unix lib.
opengl32: Use generated PE thunks for memory mapping functions.
opengl32: Use generated PE thunks for memory unmapping functions.

but in practice dx7 games using wined3d still have very bad performance like resident evil 3 classic in my case

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"Cease And Desist" in 3-2-1…

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If Proton is already so much better, why does Steam not reflect that in its auto-selection of compatibility tools? The average person doesn't care about Native Linux vs Proton or about age of games, they just want to play games. And if Linux experience is worse than Windows because of a broken Native port, they'll be quick to blame Linux for this fault

Auto-selecting Proton is a thing on Steam deck - for the games not running fine natively. The other thousands of ports are using the Linux binary instead of the .EXE and a translation layer. Of course.

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I've already played the three before moving on to Stalker 2. I enjoyed some great nostalgia revisiting SoC especially, as that had the greatest impact originally. CoP is pretty good as well.

I believe there's another patch out later this week-ish for Stalker 2, so looking forward to continual improvements there, as that game really needs them, although it's immense fun as it is already (I started from patch 1.5). Long term, with dev improvements and mods, that game's going to have longterm future. A-life needs the most work and I don't think the engine update is in the next patch.

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Improved physics / level design

But i thought Mario was the perfection already ?

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Can someone tell me why I should bother with an inferior, more buggy version of games?

Of course you shouldn't. But equating ports to buggy software is nothing else but FUD.

I could name you some hundred native Linux games working all fine from my library alone. (No, I will not actually test hundreds of games for you, but I would have returned them if they wouldn't have been working.)

We used to have a time when Windows users complained about Linux ports. Nowadays, this job has been taken by Linux users.

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WOW! 🤩

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Will it work with only resource packs and without roms, something like freedoom?

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Maybe it will last when they only publish the repository at Japan night time xD

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I love Fanatical, their bundles are a constant source of new quality games for me ❤️

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Easier to target a specific device though.

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However, it seems like the developer Larian Studios are working on a Native Linux version specifically for the Steam Deck, which you can see in the depots on SteamDB with a Native Linux version set for Steam Deck only (if a depot is set for Steam Deck it's not available on Desktop Linux).

It's a shame they've chosen to do that. The desktop Linux market is significantly bigger than the Deck market.

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I've today given the feedback to Fanatical, suggesting they add the game name below each thumbnail on bundle pages. I agree it would make it better.

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If Proton is already so much better, why does Steam not reflect that in its auto-selection of compatibility tools?

For Steam Deck, it already does in a way, with Deck Verified picking what version runs best between Native and Proton. Over time I would expect Valve to allow developers to specifically tag they support Proton, but I guess they're just not there yet. Perhaps when we get a new Steam Machine console we may see a bigger push?

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I honestly can't comprehend why people keep bothering with 'Native Linux'

Yes, people should definitely stop developing software for Linux!

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If Proton is already so much better, why does Steam not reflect that in its auto-selection of compatibility tools? The average person doesn't care about Native Linux vs Proton or about age of games, they just want to play games. And if Linux experience is worse than Windows because of a broken Native port, they'll be quick to blame Linux for this fault

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