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Quoting: princecThe latest drivers from Nvidia completely ruined my XFCE experience unfortunately, entirely breaking the compositor, which had to be turned off.

You have to turn the inbuilt v_blank off inside of xfwm to fix the screen flickering, after installing the newish 590.48.01 driver.
Here is the fix, unless you already know then ignore.
xfconf-query -c xfwm4 -p /general/vblank_mode -s off
Then reboot your system. Switch on Pipeline Composition in NVIDIA-Settings and you won't have any more problems.

Have you give any source for this fix?

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Quoting: elmapulone solution that i saw that WILL cause backslash... was to charge to submit an issue, and refund if the issue was legitimate.

that would limit how much the "ai bros" can flood the repo with bad submissions, and help pay the costs of reviewing the submissions

Now this could work.

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Quoting: mindedieBan is simple and simple things are practical.

“There is always an easy solution to every human problem–neat, plausible, and wrong.”

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Quoting: poiuz

Quoting: F.UltraThey could take 0% and still violate the DMA so no (IE was included for free in Windows, this still violated their monopoly situation in EU). This is about abusing your position as a gatekeeper and not about some specific cut. Funnily enough you have now changed your tune from 30% to (or some other amount) so it seems like you are in agreement that this is not about the 30%.

No, you just have it backwards: It's not like the commission conceived rules & then checked which companies are violating them. No, there were complaints by (European) companies (like Spotify) that Apple is hurting their businesses. It was recognised that some big players are abusing their market power & then constructed rules to counter said effects - like taking 30%. All other concessions by Apple (taking less) became effective after the DMA was already in progress (but nowhere near being passed) or after being in effect (to conform with the DMA).

So yes, the DMA has parts specifically about Apple's (& Google's) cut which was 30% when it was initially conceived.

I think the Internet Explorer was never in dispute for the DMA because it was already dying/dead but yes, there are other provisions to counter different effects, too (like bundling software). Obviously the DMA is not all about Apple.

IE was never part of the DMA because that happened years before DMA was a thing plus that the IE case never needed something like the DMA since Microsoft have a monopoly so the ordinary monopoly laws was applied. The DMA is a way to address market related issues in the technology domain even though each individual company might not have a monopoly as such, hence the new definition of being gatekeepers.

Like monopoly laws the DMA is all about not allowing people with monopoly (or near monopoly) position to abuse their status as monopoly in one area to gain advantages in another area, for Microsoft this was them using their monopoly among Operating Systems to try and get an advantage when it came to Internet Browsers.

Likewise with the DMA this is about gatekeepers not being allowed to use their position, like Apple being gatekeepers of their Appstore, to get advantages in the payment sector. Which have ZERO to do with a specific cut.

That Apple cut back its cut was not part of them being compliant with the DMA, them allowing other payment providers for in-app purchases for apps in their Appstore was what made them compliant. So the single reason that Apple cut back on their cut was to keep people using their payment option instead of moving so some of the 3d parties that they just allowed.

And it is you that have it backwards, Spotify complained about Apple in 2019 but the initial plans for the DMA was made in 2014 during the Juncker Commission, the same commission that gave us the GDPR and that removed the cell phone roaming charges within the EU. It was never about Apples, Google or anyone else:s cut, it was always about regulating the behaviour of the Big Tech firms.

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Something else... someone knocks out "their" game at the click of a button, tries to sell it and then the consumer comes back with a bug report - "crickets/tumbleweed".

Unless I'm being silly and don't realise these games will be created perfectly coded 🤔

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Quoting: dpanterBan AI-generated everything.

This would be a fine idea if they knew what was AI-generated without taking the time to go through and figure it out. But apparently nobody's saying their stuff is AI-generated.

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Quoting: princecI will probably have to accept that Mint really wants me to use Cinnamon instead, which I suppose is no great hardship.

What it says to me is that NVidia really want you to use AMD instead, but in this era of sky-high prices that's probably a significant hardship.

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Quoting: princecThe latest drivers from Nvidia completely ruined my XFCE experience unfortunately, entirely breaking the compositor, which had to be turned off.

You have to turn the inbuilt v_blank off inside of xfwm to fix the screen flickering, after installing the newish 590.48.01 driver.
Here is the fix, unless you already know then ignore.
xfconf-query -c xfwm4 -p /general/vblank_mode -s off
Then reboot your system. Switch on Pipeline Composition in NVIDIA-Settings and you won't have any more problems.

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Quoting: dpanter

Quoting: Kimyrielleyou wrongly assume

I find your assumptions about my assumptions presumptuous.

Don't give me that "AI code can be good too" nonsense, that's not what is happening here. Legitimate developers wouldn't need to vibecode slop, nor PR untested/unknown code willy-nilly.

'Banning a lot of solid code contributions because their authors included a vibecoded function or two' sounds absolutely reasonable in this catastrophic AI slop onslaught on Godot.

I haven't got the faintest idea how you would want to find out.

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Quoting: LinasBuilt-in asset flip generator.

Before Ai.

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Yeah, this was worth the wait. The improvements to animation smoothness were immediately noticeable on my 144Mhz monitor, even before I'd rebooted. That alone has made a big difference: it can hold it's head up high with the likes of Hyprland now.

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Quoting: CatKiller

Quoting: Loftyersonally i think Displayport should be included on all TV's aswell but i would imagine the HDMI group leans hard on Samsung, Sony against using an alternative connector ?

It's the TV manufacturers who are in charge of HDMI. They don't need leaning on.

ahh fair enough. So there all in a big group together got it.

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Quoting: dpanter

Quoting: Kimyrielleyou wrongly assume

I find your assumptions about my assumptions presumptuous.

Don't give me that "AI code can be good too" nonsense, that's not what is happening here. Legitimate developers wouldn't need to vibecode slop, nor PR untested/unknown code willy-nilly.

'Banning a lot of solid code contributions because their authors included a vibecoded function or two' sounds absolutely reasonable in this catastrophic AI slop onslaught on Godot.

Well, if that's the best you can do to defend your knee-jerk "solution" to the problem, I am glad you don't have any say in the matter, so cooler heads than yours can look for one. *shrug*

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Welcome to the Age of Slop.

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Nobody wants to use crap generated by AI. I just hope that marketplaces will filter out AI stuff, so normal people will be able to find normal products quicker. In the end, you still have to sell that crap to clients if you want to exist on the market - but why should anyone buy it from you if they can generate the same stuff themselves with much lower costs using the same AI? You can just write a prompt: "generate a title 100% the same as product X" ;) Robbing a thief isn't theft. After all, when creating their product, they relied entirely on other people's stolen work anyway.

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Quoting: Kimyrielleyou wrongly assume

I find your assumptions about my assumptions presumptuous.

Don't give me that "AI code can be good too" nonsense, that's not what is happening here. Legitimate developers wouldn't need to vibecode slop, nor PR untested/unknown code willy-nilly.

'Banning a lot of solid code contributions because their authors included a vibecoded function or two' sounds absolutely reasonable in this catastrophic AI slop onslaught on Godot.

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Odd thing to say. To me it's very obvious that a reasonably deep turn-based roguelike with some whimsy and personality, AND cats is more popular than the thematic downer that is The Binding of Isaac or the tough as nails meat grinder of a precision platformer.

I guess it's possible to spend years dedicating your life to something unaware of what it is that you're actually doing?

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if they can stop us from storing data locally, they can stop us from preserving content (eg: piracy) as well.
its much easier to take down an company like they did with the mega upload or force then to remove some content, and much easier to force then to comply to scam their machines for infringing content then take it down, then do that in billions of end users machines.

not to mention they are using ai to scan the internet for piracy websites, to take then down, and arresting some of the biggest distributors.

hell, laws like the UK that force people to identify thenselves before they go to any social media website have even convinced some piracy websites to take down some types of content to "obey the law" ... yeah piracy websites following the laws...

purchase as many hdd/ssd as you can, hell even blurays/dvds if they are cheaper , backup as much thing as possible, split efforts with friends to backup as many different things as possible, companies like netflix will love to see us not being able to download and store stuff anymore, not to mention services like geforce now with the rest of the components.

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I've found that on some servers I need to be running minecraft with zink to get acceptable performance. So Vulkan really is the future for Minecraft for me either way. Glad to see that it will become a main feature and not just a "workaround". Though it does kinda stink for anyone on any very old computer.

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Quoting: Expalphalog

Quoting: Leopard

Quoting: hardpenguinThis game has kinda fallen into obscurity since they moved to Epic 🤷

Lol, not correct at all.

For years, average monthly player counts were in the 30-40K range. In early 2020 that number climbed to the 40-50K range.

Then in late September 2020, Rocket League went free to play and player counts skyrocketed to 70K+ but only for one month. The influx of new players left and the game has slowly fallen to average player count of 15-20K per month.

So yes, that is correct. This is the lowest player counts have been since 2015.

Source: https://playercount.gg/rocket-league

Your confidence outmatches your knowledge.

Clearly takes data from only Steam.

https://steamdb.info/app/252950/charts/

Which game is not available there for nearly 5 years, not to obtain from there anymore. It is available in EGS and EGS doesnt have a way to get "current player count" data.

I never ever wait more than 10 secs in lobby despite i restricted my search regions to Europe only.

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Quoting: Bumadar

Quoting: fabertaweThe greed of those who already have more wealth than you or I could imagine is insatiable. And it's you and I that will suffer. It's both sad and maddening at the same time.

Here's to the big bang...

It feels this is the build-up to these huge cooperations you see in the sci-fi movies or games that have become so huge, control everything and no governments controls them anymore

Wasn't that the whole point of the dystopian futures depicted in the cyberpunk genre in novels? The huge megacorporations dominating society. I'm thinking of William Gibson (whom I've sadly never read), Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, etc. And then there are all the films too. A lot of these authors had the imagination to foresee what seems to be coming about now.

Wikipedia sums it up nicely: to"Themes typical of a dystopian society include: complete control over the people in a society through the use of propaganda and police state tactics, heavy censorship of information or denial of free thought, worship of an unattainable goal, the complete loss of individuality, and heavy enforcement of conformity."

Yup, this just feels like the build up to it, the big corps are almost free to do as they please under the current US administration, and in case of crossing the line a donation here or there helps. Still think ai will go the way of hyperion as I posted here but those mega cooperations I think that will happen don't fit in there.....

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I find everything relating with AI so bloody aggravating.. I will definitely watch unity in a sceptical light or rather a further sceptical light concerning their dealings..

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That's a great move. The absolutely unsaturated video game market is ready to rewards peoples able to move fast and propose hundred of abysmal quality games.

Irony aside, it is funny to see the lesson of the great video game crash of 1983 being forgotten.

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Quoting: whizseHow matplotlib's attempt at moderating AI submissions went:
https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-me/

Oh brave new world, that has such LLMs in it!

Thank you for sharing, that was a hell of a read.

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Quoting: dpanterBan AI-generated everything. Is it optimal? No, but practical and likely the only reasonable option if Godot wants to remain open to new contributors. These AI slop "contributions" aren't contributing to anything positive.

Your "solution" is naive at best, because you wrongly assume that people would care about such a ban any more than they care about speed limits. And in contrast to what you're probably assuming, it's often not very obvious that code was AI generated, particularly if some telltale signs are removed (e.g. overly verbose comments that LLMs love so much).

Also, legitimate developers use AI tools too, so you'd technically ban a lot of solid code contributions because their authors included a vibecoded function or two. Not sure if that's the intended effect, but hey.

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Quoting: Cley_Faye

Quoting: dpanterBan AI-generated everything. Is it optimal? No, but practical and likely the only reasonable option if Godot wants to remain open to new contributors. These AI slop "contributions" aren't contributing to anything positive.

I'm tempted to agree, but this is both impractical and would throw the small percentage of valid cases.

A better approach would to be require all PR to be hand-reviewed *before* submission, and vetted by a human. It's equally impractical, but if we look at the cURL project as an example, it is possible for competent devs to use LLM and similar as tools to raise appropriate issues, fixes, and formulate them properly. Key element is, a human used a tool vs. a tool used a human.

A small percentage of false positives is better than the several times of increased effort spent on reviewing.

Often the best rule is not so much "is it LLM-generated" but rather "does it look LLM-generated", because if you reviewed and cleaned-up your partially-LLM-generated submission well, it shouldn't at all be "obvious" that it was LLM-generated.

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If you generated the whole thing with AI, what made you think the maintainers couldn't have done this themselves?

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My optimist take is that the next few years will see such a glut of a million slop games with all their focus being on iap garbage, that people will just tire of it and stop paying attention. Then the drooling suits will release games that get like 4 installs and zero profits, and will just give up and go have their diaper changed.

Unity will slowly tank over time because it'll turn into a garbage slop gen and nothing more.

Also going along with this is that Godot gets a ton of attention and funding, figures out how to remove the code submission slop, and becomes an anti-ai powerhouse.

Of course, that's my optimist take. Will any of that happen? I don't know. What I do know is that the next 2 / 3 years are going to be ROUGH with all this ai shit. I hate it so much.

I really want a filter on steam itself, or any other stores, that have a "no ai used in this game" button because that'll make it a LOT easier to purchase stuff going forward.

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Eh, while I am a lot more open to AI than many here, I cannot see a "prompt to finished game" pipeline happening anytime soon. We're not there yet. At best it will be a glorified games construction kit with an AI label slapped on, because every modern hype product needs one.

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Guys, stick to meaningful and info rich messages on the GOL forum from now on; don't waste precious server storage space on worthless messages.

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