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Quoting: LinuxwarperDevs of software like Mangohud, GoOverlay, vkVasalt, DXVK, Proton GE and the many whose dedication and work (may) have gone unnoticed. Linux simply got better one line of code at a time until it culminated in good usability.

Very much so. And it's hard to find Windows equivalents of these tools that work just as well as the Linux-based ones. I'm thinking of Mangohud in particular.

Quoting: Linuxwarperpeople would still be using Windows, EOL or not.

I manage the tech for the small business where I work. My employer has no intention of tossing out perfectly good hardware just to meet the requirements for Win11. I did the research and offered the option of transitioning to Linux. My employer was quite prepared to remain on Win10, EOL or not. When I discovered that the extended support program existed, and could be had for free simply by registering a Microsoft Account, my employer jumped on that rather than switching to Linux. The $30 USD a year option to extend that support to 3 years will likely be embraced if there is no free option to continue. I still hold out hopes of convincing my employer to eventually move to Linux. We'll see.

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Quoting: scainePerhaps the DLC was simply out of their hands - a literal deal breaker, and this compromise at least gives anti-DRM folk the option to play at last.

There's also the remote possibility that it's a technological limitation. That something in the way the DLC is installed by the main program can't be done with an offline installer. Unlikely, but you never know ...

Quoting: Avehicle7887I wouldn't accept it even at that.

The way I see it - GOG the DRM Free store now selling a game with almost €83 worth of DLC and they require a client to access. Galaxy should ever be mandatory for multiplayer and achievements, not game content.

Purely cosmetic DLC is worth €83? 😲

I get your point. I only install GOG games using the offline installer so this means that the DLC would technically be unavailable to me. But, for those that like to use the GOG Galaxy tool, this would be a reasonable solution. Since they use Galaxy anyway, there would be no perception of DRM.

And, actually, if you think about it, this could even be a way of encouraging the use of the Galaxy client ...

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Quoting: r2rXI wonder if unlocking the Cosmetic Pack DLC by launching via Heroic Games Launcher would suffice, as an alternative to GOG Galaxy.

If Heroic's Galaxy implementation supports ownership checks, maybe™.

I wouldn't accept it even at that.

The way I see it - GOG the DRM Free store now selling a game with almost €83 worth of DLC and they require a client to access. Galaxy should ever be mandatory for multiplayer and achievements, not game content.

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Quoting: Linux_RocksI remember when I had a big chunk of my huge ass Steam library installed. So many updates when I'd boot up the computer. lol

(Yes, I usually shutdown my computer when I'm done and shut the monitors and speakers off too. The only difference from back in the day is no static covers to put on afterwards. Even in standby, it's still probably electricity pumping CO² into the atmosphere.)

I feel you!

About five years ago, I moved from a rural village with gigabit+ FTTH internet to the center of a picturesque Dutch fortified town. Surprisingly, despite moving to a much livelier area, I was stuck with an ancient 8Mbit DSL connection.

When my friends got back into gaming during COVID, I constantly needed to download new games. Since those downloads took hours on that slow line, I usually had to run them while I was away at work. However, I also try to conserve energy, especially after the war in Ukraine caused electricity prices to spike. To avoid leaving my computer running all day, I used my OpenWrt router or Home Assistant to wake my PC via LAN and handle the downloads on SteamCMD through SSH or Cockpit. It was the perfect way to get my games ready without wasting power. After the downloading was done, a simple shutdown command would make the PC go off again.

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Quoting: NarvarthBe careful with HB : there are several ways you could lose your keys if you don't use them right away: the keys have an expiration date, and they can go out of stock overnight. It also appears that HB transfers keys from Steam to the Epic Store without warning anyone.

There's nothing shady about it, HB makes it quite clear imo. Game devs simply don't want the keys to end up on reseller sites.

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Be careful with HB : there are several ways you could lose your keys if you don't use them right away: the keys have an expiration date, and they can go out of stock overnight. It also appears that HB transfers keys from Steam to the Epic Store without warning anyone.

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I really dont think W10 EOL had as much to do with this. At its core it was WINE and all contributors big and small improving Linux desktop. Devs of software like Mangohud, GoOverlay, vkVasalt, DXVK, Proton GE and the many whose dedication and work (may) have gone unnoticed. Linux simply got better one line of code at a time until it culminated in good usability. Valve was the catalyst and funder who made alot happen. If these things did not, people would still be using Windows, EOL or not.

Other considerations are memory shortage, old hardware (tpm or RX 580), and social media creators promoting Linux. We saw LTT, Jay, GamersNexus among other cover Linux.

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No, it's meant for getting Windows games to run on Android. It uses FEX for ARM compatibility.

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I remember when I had a big chunk of my huge ass Steam library installed. So many updates when I'd boot up the computer. lol

(Yes, I usually shutdown my computer when I'm done and shut the monitors and speakers off too. The only difference from back in the day is no static covers to put on afterwards. Even in standby, it's still probably electricity pumping CO² into the atmosphere.)

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Is this Android Driver meant as a alternative to Valves FEX layer?

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​This wine version in my case up 500mb (4.7gb) compared 11.5 (4.2gb) compiled





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AFAICT GameNative et al seems to use proot to run x86 builds of Wine using Box64.

I have no idea of doing it slightly more native will be easier/faster?

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Quoting: ROllerozxaImproving the loading of game mod DLLs sounds interesting but what got my attention was the firstmost line, Wine running on Android? 👀

Yep, it was (somewhat) supported starting with the 3.0 release but ending with 7.0. I think the arm build was only able to run WinRT binaries (Windows apps for arm) so usefulness was pretty much limited to Android on x86. That will probably change now with FEX that emulates x86 on arm64.

I guess it already has changed. I saw so many Youtube Videos popping up on how to run Steam on Android on Ayn Odin and other devices. GameNative and other apps are mentioned.

afaik they arent using wine but an fork of it, that might not even give credits or source code, im not sure if it does....

in any case now we will have support on the wine itself it seems

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Quoting: ROllerozxaImproving the loading of game mod DLLs sounds interesting but what got my attention was the firstmost line, Wine running on Android? 👀

Yep, it was (somewhat) supported starting with the 3.0 release but ending with 7.0. I think the arm build was only able to run WinRT binaries (Windows apps for arm) so usefulness was pretty much limited to Android on x86. That will probably change now with FEX that emulates x86 on arm64.

I guess it already has changed. I saw so many Youtube Videos popping up on how to run Steam on Android on Ayn Odin and other devices. GameNative and other apps are mentioned.

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Quoting: CloversheenI played the GOG version through Heroic and I just installed it and had it work, perhaps the DRM is causing issues?

Try using this launch command "PROTON_LOG=1 %command%" and check the log file (should appear in your Home folder). You can upload it to a pastebin such as https://paste.opensuse.org/ and we can have a look as well.

Thank you, I appreciate the interest. The generated log was too big so I had to remove a chunk in the middle: https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/f23c0d6e2c99

I'm a developer so I thought I would find something out with the log but I couldn't identify the important parts. Any clues are welcome.

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Quoting: ROllerozxaImproving the loading of game mod DLLs sounds interesting but what got my attention was the firstmost line, Wine running on Android? 👀

Yep, it was (somewhat) supported starting with the 3.0 release but ending with 7.0. I think the arm build was only able to run WinRT binaries (Windows apps for arm) so usefulness was pretty much limited to Android on x86. That will probably change now with FEX that emulates x86 on arm64.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: CaldathrasAnybody with a Microsoft Account can easily access the program.

AFAIK, that's EU only? Others need to jump through additional hoops?

Quoting: PlayingOnLinuxphoneYes, it was just for EU.

Quoting: CaldathrasWith the free year of extended support, Win10 EOL is really a bit of a fiction.

And not having a MS account (which was one of the many reasons not to use W11) still makes W10 EOL for EU citizens, too.

Yes, enrollment is automatic in the EU. In North America, it is essentially opt-in. You can enroll in ESU at no additional cost if you are syncing your PC Settings. These settings are enabled by default. The only hoop is that you have to register your Microsoft Account to enable the support. You can go back to an offline account for logins right after registering.

Quoting: PlayingOnLinuxphoneWhen I speak "because of W10 EOL" I include all the reasons people may don't want to switch to W11 as online account, Copilot, broken features, advertisement on desktop, bloatware, trackers, "feature" updates and so on. To me the EOL is the term that indirectly speaks about all these problems.

To me, those are separate and distinct issues from EOL but all good reasons to drop Windows in favor of Linux.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy11% for English speaking . . . that's insane. But, once again says to me that something needs to be done about China not doing Linux.

I still don't understand why asian countries and china especially adopt Linux slower then the rest of the world. One would think they would be happy not relying on US closed source Software.

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Quoting: WORMI got asked to submit my specs 3 times this last month lmao

All different devices but all Linux

Whenever I get asked, I get asked on all the devices I have. To me it looks like they select random users, not random pcs.

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Been following the dev since an artist I support on Patreon brought them to my attention, and I'm interested to see how the game goes, but I will say that the demo didn't wow me like I was hoping it would. From what I recall, it suffered from being a solo dev project that could really have done with more hands. But even with that said I'm willing to wait and see what the full release looks like.

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Quoting: saturnoyoHas anyone made BoF IV work on Linux? It won't start for me, even when using ProtonGE 10-34 + the launch command "WINEDLLOVERRIDES=ddraw=n,b;dinput=n,b %command%".

I have seen comments saying that it works in steam deck so there must be a way.

It boils my blood that Capcom finally decided to release so many great old games on Steam at a quite fair price, like Dino Crisis 1-2 and the original Resident Evil games, and all of them are so broken on Linux.

I played the GOG version through Heroic and I just installed it and had it work, perhaps the DRM is causing issues?

Try using this launch command "PROTON_LOG=1 %command%" and check the log file (should appear in your Home folder). You can upload it to a pastebin such as https://paste.opensuse.org/ and we can have a look as well.

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Quoting: r2rXI wonder if unlocking the Cosmetic Pack DLC by launching via Heroic Games Launcher would suffice, as an alternative to GOG Galaxy.

If Heroic's Galaxy implementation supports ownership checks, maybe™.

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I was intrigued by the concept, the option to cut your other team members loose, but they sold me on it with the unknowable cosmic horrors at the end. Very interested to see what this one has in store!

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Improving the loading of game mod DLLs sounds interesting but what got my attention was the firstmost line, Wine running on Android? 👀

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Marathon still not being available on that service is such a let down. I play it on Boosteroid for now.

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That is amazing!
I hope that helps to normalize/fix/improve prices. Here in Brazil prices are out of anybody reality.

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Quoting: spacemonkeyOr could this be people joining Linus' (LTT Linus) Linux Challenge?

That was last year was it not?

Which failed IIRC.

They are doing another one now. As we speak.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyI guess the patent office isn't allowed to just say "No, this is stupid!"

They kind of are? Besides prior art, they can also reject it for being "obvious".

They can also, you know, not grant the patent. Because it's obvious. But they don't do they. They hand them out like sweeties, and then monsters like Nintendo or Apple are born.

Here's Apple's patent for a rectangle with rounded corners. Seriously.

https://patents.google.com/patent/USD670286

Or as Apple describe it:

The ornamental design for a portable display device, as shown and described.

Incredibly frustrating.

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The anti-DRM stance here resonates with me, since I have strong views on Denuvo. But I think we can take it too far as well. I do buy games that have had Denuvo removed, for example.

The view that you wouldn't buy Doom Eternal because you wanted the DLC - that's fine. But the view that you're now disappointed in GOG for releasing the game, but without DLC... that feels like an odd position. GOG are giving you an option to buy a game you didn't have the option of playing. No, it's not ALL the game, but it's still a game.

Perhaps the DLC was simply out of their hands - a literal deal breaker, and this compromise at least gives anti-DRM folk the option to play at last.

What does really get my goat though is that as a Linux-only gamer, I literally can't access this DLC, since I can't run Galaxy. I may as well just buy it on Steam.

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Agree with Dpanter's comment, but that said, you can pay as little as £9 and still get all six games, so if you have a cohort of in-real-life pals that you can use to play these titles, it's still a steal. But if you're expecting lobbies to fill your team out as you play... buyer beware.

Also, there are probably better co-op games generally - Dpanter's favourite is Deep Rock Galactic (hmmm, or is it Dying Light??) while my tastes are more geared towards traditional roguelites: Deadzone Rogue, Abyssus, Gunfire Reborn, and Jump Space, for example.

Or there's Orcs Must Die: Deathtrap, Remnant 2, Returnal, or Warhammer 40K: Darktide. Or if you fancy some top-down action RPGs, there Ravenswatch, Shape of Dreams, Emberknights, or of course Path of Exile 1/2.

Can't believe it's nearly three years since I wrote this - I need to do an update!
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/12/festive-co-op-games/

Or, you know, there's always Helldivers 2.

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