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Having played for a while now i think that maybe the problem it's not GPU performance but CPU.
There is a huge different in frame rate in some areas, and according to this test:



The MT performance of the engine it's very important. In linux the game use only 1 core, if the developer could share the calculation in more cores maybe the game will run more fluent.

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It's not quite the same as a LAN party when the people in question practice insane hours per day for years to get there. :P

I love watching pro Starcraft, but have had a really hard time getting anything out of watching MOBAs for whatever reason... I'll probably check TI4 out a little bit though, it's just big enough to generate interest even in people not interested in the game.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoteit took years before the game found its way to the platform — and gamers using the operating system should be thankful they have something at all.

My god that comment from the editor at the end of the article is just...and having to bite my tongue here....terrible.

In any case, I'd be willing to argue that this port is not actually anything at all. It might even be claimed that it is less than nothing. After all, the game apparently runs on Wine faster than the "Linux" version runs natively. So what Linux has been given is something less than what Linux can already do without a Linux version at all . . .

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Problem with a WWI first-person shooter is it would have to be either extremely unrealistic or very boring and depressing.
"Your mission: Charge the enemy lines"
You do. You die in no-man's-land.
Oh well, try again. You die in no-man's-land.
Lather, rinse, repeat. With some cheerful interludes of drowning in mud, trench foot etc.

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Quoting: fedsoAccording to jaycee1980 from the Steam forum: "Actually, we've had plenty of help and feedback from Valve...". So it would seems Valve does consider eON a valid solution.

Valve would definitely help VP or CDPR with porting their game to Linux because they're pushing their SteamOS. If you bought a SteamBox, fired up Witcher 2 and instantly crashed, how crappy and damaging to Valve/SteamOS/Linux would that be?
That doesn't mean Valve endorses eON or the implementation of eON for The Witcher 2. Because ultimately CDPR had the power to chose to go with VP and eON.

With toolkit not being the culprit - yeah, VP could have had eON perfected and screwed up big time with their implementation with eON on Witcher 2, but you don't have their source code so you don't know if eON is perfect or not; they might cause the usage of high-resource OGL calls when low-resource ones would suffice. With the apparent fails of their previous Mac OS X ports, either their toolkit or their implementing devs aren't up to par, or both. So you can't say for certain it's not eON/the toolkit, especially without a test case of eON running perfectly on Linux (as pointed out by Liam).

Edit: The assumption here was that you knew many players had reported Witcher 2 working better in WINE than through the eON wrapper. http://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/why-we-shouldnt-accept-bad-linux-ports.3765/page=6#r17675

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It seems to be very graphics card dependent. On my GTX 580 it's only playable in the lowest stettings, and at some scenes I still have performance below 20 FPS. My CPU seems to idle, even though, one thread seems to take always 100 % of a core, which could be the issue as well.
Considering you do have a stronger graphics card and a smaller processor than I do, I guess it's a lot graphics card dependant.

Even though, it is enjoyable enough, even on low settings. Still 25 achievements to go :).

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I play on Linux, and while it's gotten better than the WINE version, it's still buggy and lags at times (like when Spectre ulti's, anyone else on Linux get that?).
This means Valve has already earnt ~18 million from 2014 Compendiums alone ... go Valve =P

I suck at playing, but would rather play than watch (with anything, sport, games, etc.).
However, e-sports is fun to watch, just like sports, because you're watching the best players of their respective disciplines be it football or Dota 2. Tbh though, I think Tribes (1 and 2) is a lot more fun to watch than MOBAs like Dota. Those intense e-grabs and caps!
Check these intense skill footage:
View video on youtube.com
And teamwork:
View video on youtube.com

Edit: Now if CIG at Star Citizen uses this model for Arena Commander every year and there was a good team/player base ...

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<sigh> .. i want more single player games, sadly this one does not seem to feature a campaign. Though, the game looks amazing.

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Quoting: JestI think that bigger problem is bad PC ports of console games.
If game is bad port from console, it will run badly on all platforms.
I think this is problem that should be dealt with first.
Didn't dudes on Windows also cry about bad Witcher 2 performance?
Or is it even worse on Linux?

Thing is, that Steam is going to be a "console for PC", so we'll probably even see worse ports to linux ;-).

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I will state it again: the toolkit does NOT matter.
The quality of the port DOES.

In the case of eON, they have a set of functions wrapping the D3D API, making OGL calls out of it. The question is, how TW2 / CDPR engine uses the D3D API, since there are several ways to do it (especially considering shaders / lightning), and not every implementation in OGL will give you the same performance depending on the implementation chosen in D3D. That's what was obviously missed out in some parts. You can see that perfectly well in Vergen in the inn, there you can clearly see the performance drop by the lightning.

This is about the same as an engine ported badly. Nothing more or less. It's nice they did and tried, even if the result is unpleasent. This is to judge like a bad engine port, it's not about choosing eON, since they DID change their code to work for TW2. They did not change enough for pleasent performance though.

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No worries folks. =) As a platform proliferates and matures there is this almost 'self correcting' element to its software. As titles multiply in numbers as well as quality, it is not unusual for a developer to feel embarrassed and release new compilations, re-masters, and outright remakes.

As proof that this is already happening on Linux (which is ridiculous as it took Windows 10 years to hit saturation) many of you are already seeing games with 'like this title' or 'like that title' descriptions. This usually starts an in-feeding process that always leads to improvement or replacement.

My advice to everyone is; sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. =)
BTW. If gamers are incensed enough, never underestimate their ability to take advantage of parody law to the fullest (hence improvement or replacement). lol

Just please don't interfere socially, vote with your dollars. The system works this I can promise you.

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I watch some of the qualifier matches and for sure I'll watch whole event in July. Dota 2 is the best game ever (I have about 2200 hours spent in it) and if it wasn't available on linux I would still use my previous os (now using linux mint, dota works perfectly here).

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By the way, those who want to import saves from the Witcher 1 (which brings some items as well as carries over your choices from the first game affecting some things in the second), they need to be placed in:

$HOME/.local/cdprojektred/witcher2/GameDocuments/The Witcher/saves

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meh dota 2... TF2 is much better xD

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Quoting: Jestis it even worse on Linux?

Yes it is.

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this game looks pretty damn awesome though have to pickup a copy!

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Sadly it doesn't work in Wine so as usual that's not an option, the launcher works, but once in-game the buttons on the menu-bar do nothing. Links in to why I always say Wine isn't a solution, it's just a pain.

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The other day I purchased "Cards City Nights" in a sale on Humble Store.

Looks a bit naive because the graphics and the characters (Ittle Dew).

But the card game itself is addictive.



As for this "Scrolls", I'll stay tuned for more news.

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Whilst I agree with the article. I don't necessarily believe that such emphasis should be put on porting old games, as long as they work with good performance, a wrapper should suffice. As far as newer games and going forward, wrappers are unacceptable. Newer games should be made with cross platform in mind. If they aren't, then we don't want them. But say if i wanted to play red faction 2 (random example from my steam library), it would be good to have it work with a wine wrapper so I don't have to run steam in WINE (I always get the stupid survey when i do this).

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I think that bigger problem is bad PC ports of console games.
If game is bad port from console, it will run badly on all platforms.
I think this is problem that should be dealt with first.
Didn't dudes on Windows also cry about bad Witcher 2 performance?
Or is it even worse on Linux?

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Quoting: WorMzyHonestly, this looks like a minigame you'd expect to see stuffed into a bigger game. I don't get all the fuss about it.

You can say the same thing for all Card Games (physical or digital). They’re MUCH deeper than they appear to be.

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"reputation for having low quality games. Think about that big picture for a moment, seriously."

I never though about it this way, I always though 'It's better than nothing" but you're right, it can cause a lot more damage to Linux in the big picture!

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What exactly is the fiasco? I purchased Witcher2 on Friday on sale, and I've played it all weekend on Fedora 21 with no trouble. What have been the issues?

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Yeah, I still have the resolution problem as well. I found that if I change my resolution (to anything from default, since this game doesn't seem to save your settings under 'nix yet), the lock up doesn't happen.

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I have some weird problems with the game under Linux, though. I need to press escape for the game to start after the loading screen, and sometimes the screen goes black, and I have to press escape to get sight back. Other than that it's a really fun game, not much features right now though.

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It's a pretty deep strategy game. It's like playing out a board game with cards in a PC game and watch your units come alive on the screen.

There are multiple types of decks, a deck builder to choose exactly what cards you take into battle with you and more.

It's really good.

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Honestly, this looks like a minigame you'd expect to see stuffed into a bigger game. I don't get all the fuss about it.

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I like to think i'm a good Dota2 player, but I probably wouldn't stand a chance in hell against any of the teams players haha.

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That's an insane amount of money.

No, I won't be watching. My younger brother probably will though, he loves watching people play games for hours at a time. I'd rather play a game than watch someone else play it.

The term "e-sport" really makes me chuckle though. Are the people competing "e-athletes"? That's an interesting description of someone who sits at a desk for a couple of hours, playing a video game. When I was younger, we just called it a LAN party. ^_^

Maybe I'm bitter because I know that I'd never win! :D

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QuoteWhat about Valve's ToGL? Considering all of Valve's games that are on Linux now and run pretty damn fine, using ToGL sounds like a much better approach than eON.

They didn't run fine at the beginning and actually some still have game breaking bugs, I've never been able to complete HL: OF because of this bug: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/halflife/issues/917

According to jaycee1980 from the Steam forum: "Actually, we've had plenty of help and feedback from Valve...". So it would seems Valve does consider eON a valid solution.

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