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Reporting for duty at the testing facilities!
(Ubuntu / Arch)

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Ok, I can test the game in manjaro x64... :)

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I'll have a key please, thanks for supporting the Linux community guys!

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If I had spare cash I would build myself an AMD box that was using FOSS graphics drivers only, so that way I could keep up with how they are.

It is always interesting to see people say how good the FOSS drivers are now, as when I tried them on my old APU (when I say old, not age but as in I just got an intel processor) they utterly fell over and crashed everything constantly, was a shame.

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I am Ready for testing ....

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Liam, I'll take one!

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Can I have a key please? I can test this on Arch. The game looks cool to me!

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Quoting: killx_denI didn't like the MX Black Switches from the Ryos Glow. I really prefer MX Red or MX Brown, but these are only available in the 169€ version.
Apart from that it was a nice keyboard :)

thats probably a matter of personal taste i guess.. i feel like black and red are the best... rest of them i dont like that much... spacebar and enter have different switches however.. i think green ones.. they feel quite different... but they fit exactly for those keys

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Quoting: Anonymousi don't really see wwhy people would hate on amd's processors, their 8350 is an extremely good value for only 10$ more than the i3's, ofc they don't perform as well as the i5's and i7's in single threaded applications, but in stuff like sony vegas with high multicore support it beats the i5's and some i7's, i think everone here, even the haters, know that without amd, and intel and nvidia basically having a monopoly, we would pay at least twice the ammount we pay now, and not getting any speed improvements from both intel and nvidia

It boils down to historical reasons. nVidia got there first ...
(snip comparison of GPUs instead of CPUs)

Read the question again... it's more about Intel vs. AMD on processors, than nVidia vs. AMD on graphics.

I tend to go for AMD on low-cost computers nowadays, and those computers have been lasting a long time for good total value. Also AMD is way better on low-power computers, at least until an upcoming generation of Atoms gets rid of the trashy powervr-based integrated GPUs (GMA 500/600/3600/3650).

Gamers who only purchase high-performance gaming machines might go Intel 100% of the time, but it is likely that even they have benefitted from Intel having some plausible competition, as the original poster said.

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I really do hope things change in future, I would like nothing better than to not have to install extra drivers for a graphics card.

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While I agree that AMD does have rather poor Linux support, their price to performance ratio cannot be beat. My 290x (My first AMD Gpu - Had 450 GTS - 560Ti - and GTX 680) destroys anything else in its price range (for the record I got mine for $530). Yes, I use windows at the moment for gaming, but you can't argue with this performance.

Also, You get what you pay for in terms of CPUS, Sure the i5 beats the 8350 in some benchmarks, but it's also more expensive. And for gaming you cannot tell the difference. While I currently use Intel CPUs, I plan my next upgrade cycle to involve a crazily overclocked AMD chip.

It's also nor fair to compare Intel to AMD. Sure intel pays engineers to work on Linux, but so does AMD. AMD is a much smaller company than intel, therefore the same output/financial support cannot be expected.


AMD GPUS: Not for linux, yet (I'm looking at you AMD). AMD CPUS: Hell yeah.

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Hmmm... never played this game , maybe is time to get it :D

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Quoting: SkullyAlthough there is no Official Support from Logitech, I still absolutely
love my old G15 keyboard http://pandas.darrennolan.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/1.jpg

It works fine out of the box in Linux except for the LCD screen and macro recording, but
there are multiple projects to get it working as good as it did in windows. Minus the
specific game support.

I could never live with 1 column of m-keys like that, I need 3 columns. With this I map games to use the
middle section as
q w e
a s d
and then I have 6 immediately above and below. Makes playing games so much more comfy,
and even more so if they use alot of buttons like a mmo.

With the Ryos using locked easyshift layer you could completely surround your wasd with macro keys (except the shift-lock key).

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Quoting: WotanThe day the game works with amd propietary drivers then I'll play it again.

Is it hilarious... native linux does not work with them, but however through steam on wine works flawlessly...

Genuine absurdity

Where have you reported the issues to them? Links please.

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The day the game works with amd propietary drivers then I'll play it again.

Is it hilarious... native linux does not work with them, but however through steam on wine works flawlessly...

Genuine absurdity

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This is actually an amazing game and I strongly suggest it for everyone.

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@liamdawe thanks. I'm happy :D

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It's AMD-powered. Nuff said.

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Oh gosh, this box looks terrible :D Not interesting at all, since I often had bad experiences with Gigabyte motherboards... not to talk about AMD graphics on Linux.

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This is now closed and all the keys we are giving away here are gone!

I will be chucking two keys in public in this G+ group: https://plus.google.com/communities/113630288541740437071

So keep an eye out there ;)

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Quoting: KallestofelesHi All,

Good article, thank you for the information.
AMD's GPU drivers have always suffered a lot. After Linus giving a middle finger to nVidia, they stepped up their game (was not regarding GPU performance but it seemed to work on that end as well) and are providing excellent driver support under Linux. My actual question would be, how are the actual CPU comparison between Intel and AMD in regards to gaming? I have looked for some info on the web but all I get is compression, rendering times etc on Linux. Nothing regarding head-to-head Intel vs AMD CPU comparison with different games under Linux. Have I missed something and can someone give me a link? Or has no such comparison simply taken place...

try this for searching for the best cpu, however i would add the fx8350 between the i3's and i5's, especially if you're also doing productivity
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.html

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Quoting: Anonymousi don't really see wwhy people would hate on amd's processors, their 8350 is an extremely good value for only 10$ more than the i3's, ofc they don't perform as well as the i5's and i7's in single threaded applications, but in stuff like sony vegas with high multicore support it beats the i5's and some i7's, i think everone here, even the haters, know that without amd, and intel and nvidia basically having a monopoly, we would pay at least twice the ammount we pay now, and not getting any speed improvements from both intel and nvidia

AMD may be a good bargain if one chooses to use Windows... you have no Sony Vegas on Linux. That's the point of the article.

Should you as a consumer be concerned about lack of competition? Yes. But to throw money at a company that basically says: "here's the HW, here's the documentation, have fun getting it to actually run" for the sake of "competition" is stupid and wrong. Intel does a better job at supporting linux users. They release documentation and pay engineers to work on the drivers.

If you have a philosophical problem with closed source, choose Intel. If you're previously an AMD user, chances are that you were not a hard-core gamer anyway and the Iris IGP will be enough for you.

I hate them for the fact that they don't give two cents about Linux users. I hate that because of them, my only choices on Linux are nvidia (if I want to get performance from the HW) or Intel. Hell, if Phoronix is to be believed, they even thought that producing a proper changelog for their Linux driver was too costly.

This is the company you're trying to get me to support?! Seriously?! F them!

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Quoting: HolgerWhile I will make a big circle around any AMD-based GPU, I am still a happy AMD CPU user. My main Linux PC sports an AMD E350 with a GeForce 9500GT and my main gaming PC has some AMD Phenom with 4x3GHz and a GeForce 450GTS.

While it is true that Intel CPUs often outperform AMD CPUs one still need to keep two things in mind:
1) Even the modest AMD quadcore will be most likely fast enough for most usages and still cost a lot less than a higher level Intel CPU (e.g. Intel I5)

2) For those with the need of more power AMD has always to offer 6 or 8 core CPUs :)

For me it boils down to this:
Big wallet and non-AMD attitude = Intel CPU buyer ;)

See the CPU% and CPU Charge.

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While I will make a big circle around any AMD-based GPU, I am still a happy AMD CPU user. My main Linux PC sports an AMD E350 with a GeForce 9500GT and my main gaming PC has some AMD Phenom with 4x3GHz and a GeForce 450GTS.

While it is true that Intel CPUs often outperform AMD CPUs one still need to keep two things in mind:
1) Even the modest AMD quadcore will be most likely fast enough for most usages and still cost a lot less than a higher level Intel CPU (e.g. Intel I5)

2) For those with the need of more power AMD has always to offer 6 or 8 core CPUs :)

For me it boils down to this:
Big wallet and non-AMD attitude = Intel CPU buyer ;)

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Quoting: Anonymousi don't really see wwhy people would hate on amd's processors, their 8350 is an extremely good value for only 10$ more than the i3's, ofc they don't perform as well as the i5's and i7's in single threaded applications, but in stuff like sony vegas with high multicore support it beats the i5's and some i7's, i think everone here, even the haters, know that without amd, and intel and nvidia basically having a monopoly, we would pay at least twice the ammount we pay now, and not getting any speed improvements from both intel and nvidia

Hi,

I use Nvidia GPU : GTX470 with AMD CPU "FX 8320" O/C at 4.5GHz. It's very very good processor. The 4.5GHz is really correct on monothreads.

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Hi All,

Good article, thank you for the information.
AMD's GPU drivers have always suffered a lot. After Linus giving a middle finger to nVidia, they stepped up their game (was not regarding GPU performance but it seemed to work on that end as well) and are providing excellent driver support under Linux. My actual question would be, how are the actual CPU comparison between Intel and AMD in regards to gaming? I have looked for some info on the web but all I get is compression, rendering times etc on Linux. Nothing regarding head-to-head Intel vs AMD CPU comparison with different games under Linux. Have I missed something and can someone give me a link? Or has no such comparison simply taken place...

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i don't really see wwhy people would hate on amd's processors, their 8350 is an extremely good value for only 10$ more than the i3's, ofc they don't perform as well as the i5's and i7's in single threaded applications, but in stuff like sony vegas with high multicore support it beats the i5's and some i7's, i think everone here, even the haters, know that without amd, and intel and nvidia basically having a monopoly, we would pay at least twice the ammount we pay now, and not getting any speed improvements from both intel and nvidia

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I am happy with my AMD card, which works fine with FOSS drivers. But i would also recommend only NVidia GPUs for steam machines at the moment.

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Quoting: Anonymous

Quoting: liamdaweThe Linux domain is our store on their shop for you to support us by buying games there, they don't allow you to outright remove games from being shown.

It seems you can customise the store and remove unwanted games. Take a look at this:

https://indie-pixel.gamesrepublic.com

Yes, then click "All Games" and see my point. Apart from the games you personally have to pick individually on your store-front the rest are all still there.

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Quoting: liamdaweThe Linux domain is our store on their shop for you to support us by buying games there, they don't allow you to outright remove games from being shown.

It seems you can customise the store and remove unwanted games. Take a look at this:

https://indie-pixel.gamesrepublic.com

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