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If someone is interested, Alex Kontos (Waterfox) made a response to this statement https://www.waterfox.com/blog/no-ai-here-response-to-mozilla/

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Quoting: Brokatt

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: kuhpunktWhat does that even mean.

It means you will use AI and you will like it. There is no escape. Consume!

I mean I know the Mozilla hate train is always loaded with pitchforks and ready to leave the station, but isn't that a bit disingenuous? So far Mozilla have stayed true to their first statement and AI is always optional. Should that change I will uninstall Firefox in a heartbeat but until then I'm perfectly happy with it as my default browser. I don't see AI being any different from other services like search, email etc in that I will use it if it respects my privacy.

Well no, because right now it's just words, the settings to turn it all off are hidden behind flags you have to know how to find to disable.

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I'm really interested in Servo, but not quite there yet. I like Epiphany, but its extension support is not quite there yet either (I mainly need ublock, bitwarden and vertical tabs). Is LibreWolf the only remaining option?

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Don't read too much into that. It's just a slogan for investors. When the ai bubble bursts, everything will go back to normal.

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: kuhpunktWhat does that even mean.

It means you will use AI and you will like it. There is no escape. Consume!

I mean I know the Mozilla hate train is always loaded with pitchforks and ready to leave the station, but isn't that a bit disingenuous? So far Mozilla have stayed true to their first statement and AI is always optional. Should that change I will uninstall Firefox in a heartbeat but until then I'm perfectly happy with it as my default browser. I don't see AI being any different from other services like search, email etc in that I will use it if it respects my privacy.

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I always thought what a web browser was for, was to go to the place on the web I told it to go to, and show me what's there. I don't see how AI helps with that. And even if I can opt out, and even if the AI doesn't do anything too pernicious, if the people making my browser are doing this all-in, bet the farm, put all their effort into the AI . . . then presumably they don't have a whole lot of effort left over to make the browser not suck.

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Quoting: ElectricPrismIF YOU ARE NOT THE CUSTOMER YOU ARE THE PRODUCT.

These days, quite often if you ARE the customer you are STILL the product. Various execs realized why have one income stream when you can have two?

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I was not expecting Vivaldi.

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Quoting: Technopeasant

Outlaws editor support.
Outlaws single player support in TFE.
Outlaws multi-player support in TFE

This seems very bad! They're outlawing all the things people want! 😝

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Quoting: StellaIts a cool game but i lost interest after i could not beat Fungus on normal difficulty after trying at least 7 times. It was just to difficult for me and was blocking progression to all the other pathogens.

Yes, I agree, Fungus is probably the hardest one, and least fun, of all types

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Every company forcing AI into everything is honestly just a bad move. It's a buzz word and it's ruining everything.

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I switched to Waterfox a year ago and I've never looked back. Best decision I've ever made.

I did a lot of research too before settling on it. I wanted a browser that has feature parity with regular Firefox, but doesn't add a crap ton of unnecessary extras. I just want Firefox, but without the crap. That's Waterfox.

I've seen people recommend brave and all these other different browsers, but that's just chromium. Waterfox doesn't try to give you a bunch of extra stuff you don't want.

I've only ever had like, one website mess up with it, and I had to use a user agent switcher to make it think I was using Firefox.

I also use Waterfox on my android phone. The experience is great. Highly recommend it.

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Thank you for your response.

Quoting: HamishThe changelog just mentions it was "rebuilt using futureproof libraries" so I don't think there were any internal bug fixes and the newer libraries might actually be counterproductive on a retro system.

It's still a commercial game, and I don't know what they fixed with many of these patches. You can't access a bug tracker anymore, and it's one of the companies that tested their games on much older systems. You can see the software requirements, which aren't demanding.

I understand that you don't want modern features released many years later, and I played older versions of games myself for fun. However, it could be an interesting tidbit for other users if you want to include it.

I think it's still the retro version of the game if LGP created patches for older systems. Of course, they did it many years after releasing it.

Quoting: HamishIt reminds me of when I tried installing my Desura version of the Penumbra Collection on a period system that did not have SDL 2 built for it. The original binaries would have ran fine but not the update.

I had to upgrade my system to play the first version of Penumbra many years ago. Some companies focus only on the current distributions, which is bad.

I played some other games when the installer was much more modern than the game.

I won't reveal too many details because it could be a subject for your articles. For example, I played the LGP game from 2005 on a Linux distribution from 2003, and the other one was from 2009 running on a system from 2006 with patches from 2012.

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Quoting: 1xokPerhaps we can use AI to program a completely normal web browser?

Funny you should mention this, I watched a YouTube video created by Dave Plummer of "Dave's Garage". Most Linux users probably do not watch Dave's videos. His channel description is:

Dave takes you on a forty-year journey as a software engineer including working on every Microsoft operating system from MS-DOS through Windows XP and Server 2003. He discusses Microsoft Windows...

In the video listed below, he uses AI to create a Windows application that is like the NotePad that was included with Windows XP. He wanted to "un-improved" Notepad because he was tired of the new features and functionality that Microsoft added, particularly those driven by AI. To achieve this "un-improvement," Dave uses OpenAI's GPT Codex Max 5.1 in "extra high" mode to generate a complete clone of the Windows XP Notepad, which he names "RetroPad."

Microsoft “Improved” Notepad. I Un-Improved It.
https://youtu.be/bmBd39OwvWg?si=7Rsk4oxsv-e6XuFX

I love this quote from the video:

Well, if it's AI that's making the problems, it better be AI that's solving those problems.

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Switched to librewolf today.

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i have been using firefox since it was netscape... ok i skiped firebird, but im pretty sure i use it since the version 1.0 or close to it.
now i think i will ditch it for good.

so long and thanks for all the fish.

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So, Ive been testing Brave and Vivaldi and both seem usable and fast, but I read where Brave is more open source.

Are either of these better than the other? are there better options out there?

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Don't take this game lightly. I played it on mobile awhile back, and after 15 minutes, I fugued out, and woke up 3 days later in some seedy motel in Philedelphia with a dead sheep and a bunch of headless Barbie dolls surrounding me.

I dunno what happened, but it was probably the funnest 3 days of my life.

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But it can easily be turned off....if you root around in about:config that the system explicitly tells you *not* to do and change a bunch of stuff. This will be enough of a barrier to stop most people from doing it, particularly the less technical minded.

As someone on Mastodon said, "I don't want a virus on my hard drive even if it's turned off".

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You lost me at MOBA. lol

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I already said it in the past - Mozilla would LOVE to be Google instead of just being unofficial Google subsidiary IF they had the chance.

People thought just because they're the non-Chromium alternative that they're noble, forgetting ALL the stuff they did or tried to do for the last ten years.

I never forgot nor forgive the Mr. Robot fiasco.

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Opt-out or opt-in won't matter much if it's rife with vulnerabilities.

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I really hope the AI crash comes soon. Cannot believe this anymore...

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Quoting: emphy

Quoting: KimyrielleDid anyone read that before reaching for the pitchforks?

AI should always be a choice

Who cares as long as it's optional, really?

The people who understand that mozilla likes to bury such "choices" under dark patterns and/or hard to find, undocumented, settings.

Can always ask the AI how to turn it off. :p

Also, maybe it's just me, but as a person used to Android smartphones and the scavenger hunts it usually takes to find settings Google doesn't want you to change, I don't find Mozilla's dark patters particularly dark. I guess everything is relative.

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Its a cool game but i lost interest after i could not beat Fungus on normal difficulty after trying at least 7 times. It was just to difficult for me and was blocking progression to all the other pathogens.

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So a browser requiring tons of RAM to run AI locally, but unable to do so because RAM prices skyrocketed to run AI remotely.

What a time to be alive...

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Quoting: snowI installed Librefow a few months ago in my main pc

Librefowl is a much better name than Librewolf ngl

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The Force Engine Roadmap:

Towards Version 2.0
Estimated Release: Late 2025
Support for enhanced features from Outlaws in the editor and in Dark Forces mods (such as slopes).
Outlaws editor support.
Outlaws single player support in TFE.
Outlaws multi-player support in TFE

So hopefully soon...

https://theforceengine.github.io/Roadmap.html

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Already a free expansion?! Great I guess! 😄

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