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Please PLEASE bring this to all the iGPU's as well and not very specific cards. Got a pretty recent NUC/Mini-PC here and I tried the patchset out earlier and well, it didn't work.

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It took me almost an hour to be able to order a Steam Controller, but I'm glad I was able to do it. Who knows when they'll have more stock available?
I was actually more excited about the new Steam Controller than I was about either Steam Machine or Steam Frame.

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Didn't last long. None available now.

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Can't wait for being able to play CrossFire on Linux! I've been waiting for years! I think since 2019 XD

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I absolutely love Town to City and think it's a wonderful game (from the demo) ... BUT ... this whole thing gives me pause. This is a very small dev studio who has a current game (town to city) in early access, and is making announcements and starting work (I guess not "starting" but rather way into) into a completely different separate game? I know they say this is a separate group of devs but still. I don't think it's good. Time will tell.

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Quoting: MalCool. I also had 2 steam controllers. Must admit the second one was useless. The first I used to play PC games, mostly strategy, on my TV, single player. All multiplayer stuff however, was meant to be played with a standard controller, and indeed I always went better with multiple xbox one controllers.

The thing is no game was ever developed to take advantage of the full featureset of the steam controller, not even Valve ones. Ok, portal 2 was definitely better with steam controller, but not a must. And I expect the same to be true for this new version too. Thus, in my modest opinion, 1 controller is enough a gamer arsenal to enable you to play PC games on your TV (without K&M ofc). If game developers decide to push their game designs further, and take advantage of valve controllers also for coop games, I'm always in time to get a second one.

I think I will get mine when I buy the steam box.

Think Borderlands 2 had native Steam Controller support. Had to do some work for Borderlands 3 to get Steam Input configs to work well with the first Steam Controller, but since Steam Controller 1 was basically unsupported by this time hardly surprising.

Will agree that hardly any game targeted what the first Steam Controller was capable of.

Still dreaming of getting native support on the trackpad for steering in a racing game.

I was getting a bit tired of having to go into Steam Input to get any game to work, but if the new one automatically inherits Steam Controller configs then this should be less of an issue.

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Choo-choo.

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Quoting: detrout"There seems to have been an error initializing or updating your transaction. Please wait a minute and try again or contact support for assistance".

Anyone else having trouble buying a steam controller?

Is there a digital thundering herd buying them all?

Yes, it just refreshes the Cart page when I click "Continue to payment". Both in the Steam client and in a web browser.

If the device is sold out there would be a notification, right?

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Pegging.

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Quoting: Renzatic GearIn short, there's nothing built for the Steam Controller, but the Steam Controller is pretty much built for everything, and is pretty good at of it in my opinion.

Yes... probably I should have argued better my point. K&M games, aren't local coop games. They are all single player games. Not since long long long time ago at least, when I was playing wasd and my brother up left down right arrows (for those who are old enough to remember).

Paleolithic aside, local coop games are all regular controller designed (and until very recently local coop was always castrated from PC versions so that's already a huge improvement - thank you steam).

That means that 1 steam controller is enough: only one single player at a time when playing single player games. When I share my screen with my wife or my daughters for a local coop it's 1 steam + 1 regular controller. If more players, more regulat controllers. Another steam controller it's a waste of money. And for old steam controller a worse experience (probably the new controller not so much, I guess just more confusing).

So until games start to be designed to take advantage of the full steam controller interface, 1 steam controller is all one needs in his own house imho.

Back at the time of steam controller 1 I did not thought about that and bought 2 out of enthusiasm when all that I really ever needed (and actually used in practice) was 1 controller. I have a virtually unused steam controller 1 at home (anyone interested? :) )

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Quoting: MalThe thing is no game was ever developed to take advantage of the full featureset of the steam controller

I always thought the original SC was great for any games that leverage the mouse and keyboard, but fell short when it came to more console-centric, standard controller style games. I'd argue that I'm actually better with the trackpad and gryo in game like Boltgun and Doom these days than I am with the tried and true kb/m setup, but using the old SC with a twinstick shooter would be an exercise in suck.

The Steam Deck fixed that issue by providing you with almost all the input methods you could ever possibly want, and the means to do whatever you want with them. It's what got me clamoring for the SC2, and now that it's out, I'm tickled freaking pink!

In short, there's nothing built for the Steam Controller, but the Steam Controller is pretty much built for everything, and is pretty good at of it in my opinion.

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Cool. I also had 2 steam controllers. Must admit the second one was useless. The first I used to play PC games, mostly strategy, on my TV, single player. All multiplayer stuff however, was meant to be played with a standard controller, and indeed I always went better with multiple xbox one controllers.

The thing is no game was ever developed to take advantage of the full featureset of the steam controller, not even Valve ones. Ok, portal 2 was definitely better with steam controller, but not a must. And I expect the same to be true for this new version too. Thus, in my modest opinion, 1 controller is enough a gamer arsenal to enable you to play PC games on your TV (without K&M ofc). If game developers decide to push their game designs further, and take advantage of valve controllers also for coop games, I'm always in time to get a second one.

I think I will get mine when I buy the steam box.

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Quoting: mseashorJust let us pay money and enter a queue to send it whenever it's ready. I'm so tired of having to mash buttons and deal with systems going down, monitoring alerts, etc. Just take my money, Valve!

I'm honestly surprised there isn't something like that. Only way I can figure it is that Valve greatly underestimated the demand, which is understandable when you remember that demand for the original Steam Controller was so low, they ended up having to all but give it away.

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"…and why we much prefer DisplayPort on PC."

Indeed!

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Wonder when the next batch comes in. It's very positive, though, that there is a clear demand for high-tech, properly laid out (symmetric) controllers.

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Hey Liam question, how loud are all the buttons. I use the DualSense now and the PS4 controller in the past. All other modern dualstick controllers that I have tried have been louder. Help a can only play games when people are sleeping gamer out.

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: sarmadYou have a typo in the title: you wrote "out now" instead of "out of stock".

Don’t scare me like that 😅

it's not to scary you, it's a harsh reality

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Just let us pay money and enter a queue to send it whenever it's ready. I'm so tired of having to mash buttons and deal with systems going down, monitoring alerts, etc. Just take my money, Valve!

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Soooo... if its fully repairable and easy to work on, it should be pretty easy to get rid of the haptic motors. That would lighten the controller considerably. I know other controllers won't work without their damned motors. Is it the case with the Steam controller? Anyone wants to try it before I buy one? 😁

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Quoting: sarmadYou have a typo in the title: you wrote "out now" instead of "out of stock".

Don’t scare me like that 😅

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Quoting: tarmo888

Quoting: GoEsrDo you know if the capacitive grips have configuration or are they just binary?

Their newest video shows the configuration https://youtu.be/a55UIaiTE-A?t=162

That's a shame, we've been getting lots of new binary options in new controllers but no new analog inputs.

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Quoting: Renzatic Gear

Quoting: tarmo888Gyro as Joystick Camera on the other hand, just does micro-adjustments by default - adjustments that joystick isn't accurate enough to do.

I've had the opposite experience. Gyro to Mouse works great once you set it up right, but I've never been able to get Gyro to joystick camera to work the way I'd like. It feels floaty to me, and if the game you're playing uses a built in deadzone, you'll always have trouble zeroing in those super tight aims.

Luckily, most games have deadzone setting and now it can be lowered a lot thanks to TMR joysticks.

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Only Valve can sell a $100 gamepad like hotcakes 😆

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Quoting: tarmo888Gyro as Joystick Camera on the other hand, just does micro-adjustments by default - adjustments that joystick isn't accurate enough to do.

I've had the opposite experience. Gyro to Mouse works great once you set it up right, but I've never been able to get Gyro to joystick camera to work the way I'd like. It feels floaty to me, and if the game you're playing uses a built in deadzone, you'll always have trouble zeroing in those super tight aims.

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Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: jjaksicSteam Survey is useless garbage. It's not humanly possible to do polling and statistics any worse than this. Please ignore it, it's just worthless random noise junk not worth anyone's 2 seconds of attention (except maybe to teach a toddler how not to do statistics).

You always this cheery or is it your birthday which caused you to just glow with joy and spread some love?

Not always. Only "that time of the month" when Steam Survey gets published. It's an affront to polling and statistics, Linux gaming and even Valve itself. It's sooooooo bad! I have to call it out, because it's not obvious. Most people look at the results and think "oh, Linux moved up (or down)", not knowing that most movement is just due to sloppiness in how the data is collected, analyzed and presented.

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You have a typo in the title: you wrote "out now" instead of "out of stock".

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Quoting: EagleDelta

Quoting: ThibugPretty sure we broke Steam the moment it got released, they never learn 😆

It's likely not Valve. The only part of Steam that broke was payment. Like most vendors, they are not likely doing payment processing in-house.... meaning they are limited by whatever bandwidth their 3rd party processor(s) gives them AND those 3rd parties aren't going to take down other customers just to account for Valve's increased traffic.

That's not it, I had the amount in Steam Wallet (credit card was processed earlier today) and it still failed for the first 8 minutes for me.

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Sold out in an hour and already being scalped on eBay for two to three times the price. Glad I was able to get one on Steam, though I had to spam the Continue button for several minutes before it finally went to the purchase page.

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I got recommended the trailer and thought it was cool that there was the weird engines from history and now I think it would be funny if British Railways UFO patent would be in the game.

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Thanks a lot for the extremely detailed review, Liam. This really covers all the open questions. I do hope they fix the remote pop-up problem in some way soon since on GNOME that is even more annoying than on KDE.

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