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Quoting: wit_as_a_riddle

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: wit_as_a_riddle

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: wit_as_a_riddleI find the moral indignation over what others do with their own hard earned money to be performative.

That sounds like it makes sense, but it's ludicrous. So, Geoffrey Epstein spent his own hard earned money on sex with underage girls. I am morally indignant about that. Not you, though, that would be "performative".

That sounds like it makes sense, but it's ludicrous! The morally repugnant issue is sex with underage girls, spending money on it or not is irrelevant.

Uh, yeah. Go look at what you said.

Your point was that if people were spending "their own hard earned money" on something, that meant we shouldn't be morally indignant about it. This appeared to be an admonition completely independent of the content of what those people were doing with their "hard earned money". I pointed out the absurdity of this. You have just confirmed it--yes, whether someone spends "their own hard earned money" on something is in fact irrelevant to whether we should feel moral indignation about it. So, your initial statement was ludicrous.

You're still misrepresenting what I actually said, and that's the core issue here.

My original statement:

"I find the moral indignation over what others do with their own hard earned money to be performative."

Nowhere did I say - or even imply - that *spending one's own money makes any action morally acceptable* or immune to criticism. That would be an absurd, blanket claim, and I never made it.

Oh, please. Let's unpack a bit, shall we?

So, first, that implication is certainly there in the basic grammar. Clearly it is the fact that the things done are done by people with their own hard earned money, that makes the indignation performative. If it were not, there would be no point mentioning the money in the first place, but instead the money is the only thing mentioned that characterizes what the people are doing. No doubt the claim wasn't intended to have to handle a reductio ad absurdum, but rather the money was perhaps only intended to be sufficient to wash clean venial sins, but this was certainly on its face a claim that people shouldn't be getting on people's case if what they're doing is spending money.

But on what basis? The core of the statement is that the money is "hard earned". So this is not just any money--it is presumed to be money acquired by working hard, by adhering to the Protestant work ethic. It is virtuous money, and the possessor is virtuous through having acquired it. The current context relates to someone with enough money to own a company, so, considerable wealth. The invocation of the "hard earned" money suggests that the possessors of that much money are, by that fact, our betters. And so, anything they might decide to do with it can be assumed to be above our criticism.

It was an extremely loaded statement, and loaded quite cleverly at that, meant to get people to digest it without quite realizing what they'd swallowed.

You're loading my original statement with layers of meaning and motive that simply aren't present, turning a straightforward observation into a supposed manifesto of class deference and work-ethic theology. You're creating some new meaning that was never present in my words and then arguing against your made up meaning - the essence of strawman argument.

Let's restate what I actually said, without your additions:

"I find the moral indignation over what others do with their own hard earned money to be performative."

This is about indignation specifically targeted at how people (individuals or companies) spend their legitimately earned funds on choices that are legal, consensual, and don't directly victimize anyone. The "hard earned" is just everyday language stressing ownership and effort—it's not code for "Protestant virtue," "moral superiority," or "they're our betters so shut up." People say "my hard-earned money" constantly without implying untouchability (e.g., "I spent my hard-earned money on junk food — don't judge"). You're inventing a hierarchy where none was asserted.

You claim the grammar forces the implication that the money itself is what makes indignation performative, and that without it the statement has no point. Wrong. The point is the scope: private spending decisions (personal or corporate) on non-harmful things. Mentioning "their own hard earned money" clarifies it's their resources, not public money, stolen funds, or something they're forcing on others. If I said "what others do" broadly, it'd include crimes, fraud, exploitation — areas where outrage is warranted. By specifying their own hard earned money, I'm narrowing to cases where the only "issue" is personal taste, envy, or ideological disagreement with the choice itself.

In this context (e.g., a company using generative AI for something like a web banner), the indignation often boils down to "they could/should have hired a human artist instead." That's not direct harm — it's speculative opportunity cost at best. Companies routinely choose cheaper/faster tools (stock assets, templates, outsourcing, automation) without moral panic. Treating AI as uniquely evil because it displaces potential gigs isn't ethics; it's protectionism dressed as concern. The money saved can fund other things (higher wages for current staff, better products, lower prices) — that's efficiency, not vice.

My logic remains rock-solid and consistent across all this:

- When the spending is on victimless, legal, internal choices (luxury goods, subscriptions, efficiency tools like AI for a banner), moral indignation is frequently performative — more about signaling ("I'm pro-artist," "anti-corporate," etc.) than real wrongdoing.
- When there's actual harm (exploitation, theft of IP in training data if illegal, fraud, direct victims), criticize freely — the "hard earned money" part becomes irrelevant; the harm is what counts.

You haven't shown any contradiction; you've just expanded my scoped claim into an absurd universal ("no criticism of anything bought with money ever") and then attacked that straw effigy while smuggling in assumptions about wealth worship. If you want to argue that companies have a moral duty to hire humans over tools regardless of cost or efficiency, make that case directly. But don't pretend my words secretly endorse elite immunity or Protestant superiority — they don't. That's all your invention.

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"Travel Case" goodness you'd need an entire carry-on bag for this thing alone lol

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The Steam Machine will probably be the cheapest pc hardware you may find, no matter the price. I fear that the current crisis is going to leave the diy market with last gen tech and the high end gaming will become a cloud streaming exclusivity. Wishful thinking here. I'm affraid it might prove to be worst than that.

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Quoting: JarmerAbsolutely love what S76 is doing with Cosmic. 🥰

Right now, a lot of people say "pick gnome or plasma" when installing distros and I can see a future a few years out where cosmic replaces gnome in that sentence.

I was actually thinking of trying out cosmic again but the github issue where the games aren't capturing the mouse and letting it go to second monitors is a deal breaker. So I'll patiently wait for epoch 2 / 3 / whatever.

I don't think it'll replace Gnome in the recommendations, but just be additive.

As you point out, Cosmic isn't fully fleshed out yet and doesn't meet the needs to many at the moment. In addition to the printing issue brought up, it's gesture implementation is fairly minimal. It looks like Epoch 3 will address gestures and their modification (unless someone programs an add-on in the interim). For someone like me needing to use a lot of windows and apps simultaneously on a laptop during my workday, Gnome and its essential gestures extensions will be a must for me for the foreseeable future....

Quoting: Cyba.Cowboy

Quoting: STiATCups being cups, and well.. who prints and scans stuff nowdays?. Except for me, of course.

In saying that, if you really want local software, Brother provided their own software suite with step-by-step instructions to install, and their after-sales support for Linux puts everyone else to shame (my MFC is ~ years old and they still give me prompt support under Linux).

I second the strong Brother printer recommendations for Linux.

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Cups being cups, and well.. who prints and scans stuff nowdays?. Except for me, of course.

I do! Funnily neither windows nor almost any linux distro has out of the box support for my printer. On Linux either the driver (splix) is missing or the printer is assigned the wrong model. On Windows you need to go to Windows Update -> Optional Updates and the printer driver is there, no it is not automatically installed.

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The graphic style doesn't really resonate with me, but it is nice to see some more skating games.

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Quoting: Cyba.CowboyI haven't used CUPS in years...

That's not actually true ;-). Gnome and KDE use avahi and cups-browsed for auto discovery and register the printers automatically with cups. So you are using cups, even if you don't realize it.

The difference is, you often get "bad" settings that way, and if you want to change the defaults, you have to have some way of configuring it and the printing system actually remembering the printers and settings instead of re-configuring it on every printing job you do.

My printer is a hp m183fw and discovered automatically, which has .. strange automatic settings (letter instead of A4 even if A4 is the devices default, always grayscale, wants the feeder as default and not the paper holder ...). It's probably the driver cups uses by default which has those settings as default which are bad "for me".

For scanning, gnome shows 3 scanner devices (it has just two scan options, flatbed and sheet feed) with weird names, one does not work (which is about right for not existing). KDE shows them properly.

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Very cool summary, thank you!

On this point:

On why the "rollback" feature is exclusive to the GOG Galaxy client

You can access all Galaxy builds with lgogdownloader, and essentially you can view each build as a DRM-free snapshot of the game. So you aren't stuck with installers if you want to make backups or rollbacks. There are tools to handle all that if you need to and they aren't exclusive to GOG's own Galaxy client. They do rely on GOG's Galaxy protocol though.

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Quoting: whizsenot totally unreasonable is it? meat is at a premium... and i'm sure some people would be better of as hamburger...

*glances hungrily at the neighbors doing outdoor karaoke in the summertime*

"That guy sure looks like plant food to me!"

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Quoting: STiATCups being cups, and well.. who prints and scans stuff nowdays?. Except for me, of course.

I haven't used CUPS in years... My Linux machines (mostly running Pop!_OS, but occasionally other stuff) al "see" my Brother MFC wirelessly, allowing me to print to it with no drivers or anything. And I can also scan directly from it to an e-mail address.

In saying that, if you really want local software, Brother provided their own software suite with step-by-step instructions to install, and their after-sales support for Linux puts everyone else to shame (my MFC is ~ years old and they still give me prompt support under Linux).

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Quoting: CyrilWhat is "silly" is what they did to Overwatch (the first one). I think I will never understand that move.
And about Blizzard as a whole, where is Warcraft IV? WoW II? Starcraft III?

You won't be getting a Warcraft IV ever; that's what World of Warcraft was/is.

Nor a Starcraft III, the story arc of the characters is topped, but they could try and fit characters into other game genres based on characters orher than those featured in the first games and expansions, similar to what Nova tried to do (to end up using the character in the same genre, with a totally different story development).

From a stealth shooter (FP|TP) game akin to thief or Hitman, to a game similar to Spece Marine or Helldivers, An Alien Isolation-like MOB-survivor game featuring Terran on an invaded outpost escaping the Zerg, parallel to or just previous to the events in the main Story. There are many things that could be done under the SC IP. He'll even a souls-like action/adventure title having you be one of the different Proton classes (a la Zeratul and Tassadar venturing to know the full scope of the Kalah), or even a Terran scientist a la Tomb Raider/Uncharted... (but I digress)

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I switched to boosteroid lately, since I am still on a 250 euro mini pc until steam machine releases.. if its any good.

Probably its for me being from europe that Boosteroid actually does work better for me, almost flawless where I often had lag issues and disconnects with GFN.

Only had one or two times issues with the client more or less locking up.

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not totally unreasonable is it? meat is at a premium... and i'm sure some people would be better of as hamburger...

*glances hungrily at the neighbors doing outdoor karaoke in the summertime*

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Darn, I missed the deadline, I had so much to say :|

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I dislike AI with a passion, but it is foolish to think any company will say no to AI from now on and forward, not a single company will say that, including the so beloved steam.
At least they did not lie about it.

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Quoting: poiuz

Quoting: F.UltraAnd I pointed out why I think different.

No, you acknowledged 2 claims. But your earlier statement was I contended only the first which I never did.

Quoting: F.UltraConsidering that you just replied to a list of reasons for why it wasn't about 30%, no.

A list in which you state: "[they] simply do not want to give Apple any money". So, yes, that's the whole point.

Which would be true even if the cut was 1%, so no it is not about the 30% itself. And as I have tried to explain before, the DMA is about lock-in and not some arbitrary cut. Which should be self explanatory since the EU have not went after Valve for their 30% cut on Steam, the DMA case against Valve is only about restricted cross-border sales with zero mentionings of the cut.

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Quoting: Serious_Table

Quoting: Cyril

Quoting: Serious_Table

Quoting: CyrilWhat is "silly" is what they did to Overwatch (the first one). I think I will never understand that move.
And about Blizzard as a whole, where is Warcraft IV? WoW II? Starcraft III?

You won't be getting a Warcraft IV ever; that's what World of Warcraft was/is.

But... it's not, WoW isn't an RTS and never will. We can't reduce a game solely on its lore, it's bullshit.
Don't you think it's sad?

We shouldn't be able to just reduce a game to its lore, but as is, that's what Blizzard has done. World of Warcraft is doing better than any singular Warcraft game did, so they aren't incentivized to go and do another. And the Warcraft team is basically wholly focused on WoW (and occasionally Hearthstone, but that's firmly intrenched in the "tangentially related" category).

A Starcraft 3 is more likely as an RTS entry, in this day and age. Especially with Microsoft as their overlords and breathing down their necks.

Thinking about WarCraft... an RTS WC4 is probably a production liability for Blizzard. Would make less than some WoW tokens or WoW mount or whatever, would cost much, MUCH more to make, would throw a wrench into the WoW content dev cycle, such as it is. It can't be a sequel to WC3, we already got that and the years of slop that followed it, it can't exactly be slotted into the WoW story, and it wouldn't be fun if it were some side-thing that WoW mostly ignores so there's a path forward for a WC5 should they want to ever make that. It's, like, work, man.

Not to mention I no longer trust Blizzard to make a decent game. 6 years they've been trying to remake WC3 into what that game was at launch. And failing. Perhaps the best WarCraft 4 is no WarCraft 4.

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Quoting: ArdjeDo not charge your anything if it can not ventilate.
My macbook refused to suspend which I didn't notice, and it committed harikiri with a 0load machine. No thermal throtlling. Just a dead hot piece of trash.

I had something close with the Steam Deck. It had an update, I turned it off and put it into the case. Some hours later I wanted to take it out - and turning off didn't work! (There was another update the next day, so I guess it was a bug.) That smelled of hot, nearly burned plastic...! It still works today, so lucky me. ("Luck in the bad luck", as a German saying goes.)

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Zombutcher also sounds like the fermented drink hipster zombies would drink.

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we can count html/web browsers as linux as well ;) ( i mean we can play those games)

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Looks interesting. Looks like a monster hunter style game, not sure why they opted to have heroes instead of sticking to classes though.

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I do like GOG, but I would be lying if I didn't say this wasn't off putting. It's a little frustrating to think that donations and purchases aren't even going to funding artists aswell.

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Quoting: JarmerAbsolutely love what S76 is doing with Cosmic. 🥰

Right now, a lot of people say "pick gnome or plasma" when installing distros and I can see a future a few years out where cosmic replaces gnome in that sentence.

I was actually thinking of trying out cosmic again but the github issue where the games aren't capturing the mouse and letting it go to second monitors is a deal breaker. So I'll patiently wait for epoch 2 / 3 / whatever.

I am really still missing some features. As the whole printing / scanning / cups implementation (that said, the gnome implementation is pretty bad too, KDE does a really good job there). Which I do understand why they didn't do yet. Cups being cups, and well.. who prints and scans stuff nowdays?. Except for me, of course.

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“The full single-player campaign must be playable offline..”

That there just became a huge marketing line with the current Stop Killing Games thing. They would be crazy to change their stance on that now.

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Hope it supports 4:3 so I can play it on the ole vga monitor, seems fitting

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Mavis Beacon, the next generation! :P

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So, implicitly . . . the game's objective is to kill your host and die? Is this, like, some kind of billionaire simulation?

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Quoting: Linux_RocksHopefully it's easy to make the populous happy, cause we don't need a bunch of Angry Beavers. 🦫

Soon you will have Hundreds of Beavers!

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awesome game! finished it just recently (and have like ~80h of gameplay… so innocent thing! :D)

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Quoting: ArdjeDo not charge your anything if it can not ventilate.

Charger goes into laptop.
Laptop goes under duvet at end of bed.
Toes stay toasty during sleepytime!

😜

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