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AMD's OpenGL Performance Is Nothing Close To Nvidia On This Benchmark
By Deformal, 31 May 2014 at 6:49 am UTC
Hm. Technical director for Aspyr Media has interest in Steam OS. Steam db tell as about signs of Linux support of Civilization V. Civilization V was ported on Mac OS X by Aspyr Media.
So as I understand, we have another Mac developer, that starts to make Linux ports.
AMD's OpenGL Performance Is Nothing Close To Nvidia On This Benchmark
By storma, 31 May 2014 at 6:13 am UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: Anonymousamd sucks. I hope they go out of business. I really do.

Agreed, The Nvidia open source drivers are heaps better.

Honestly, I think there is more to it than just Catalyst being crap. I would agree that they aren't as robust as the Nvidia drivers but from personal experience, they are capable and improving. Others through out the years have had similar experiences.

Currently my only long lasting niggle has been with the micro stutter in the heaven benchmark, which I don't experience elsewhere.

I don't have windows, so I can't compare gaming performance between the two. I haven't had the time recently to play to much but The witcher 2, for me, is playable with the latest beta drivers. All other games I throw at it are fine too.

Whether it's my use of Debian stable/testing or my AMD/AMD setups, I'm not sure what accounts for my mostly hassle free experience.

HTPC: 960/6670, stock Debian testing w/ OS drivers.
PC: 8350/7870, Debian testing w/ custom 3.14 kernel, latest Catalyst drivers.

Past rigs I have used a 2600 and a 4870, with similar AMD/AMD setups. I made the switch with the open sourcing news.

*Hopes he doesn't jinx himself. ;)
New Release: Among The Sleep A Horror Game From A Toddlers Perspective, Has Issues
By scaine, 31 May 2014 at 6:03 am UTC
Looks like the graphical bugs are being worked on and since there are a few "resolved" bugs already, I imagine a patch is coming soon.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XPqjj5gIEw5KZRSkikl8ZWtitHqZM7r9VYtXLRrbUjY/pubhtml
Youtube Are Being Stupid On Video Monetization Yet Again
By Samsai, 31 May 2014 at 5:57 am UTC
Quoting: pd12Actually, I think that was an example, and devs saying "anyone can monetize videos of our games" or "we have no problem with you[plural] monetizing videos of our game" should be OK.
You just need to find that blogpost they said it in .. =D
Apparently YouTube no longer likes these sorts of blanket statements on websites etc. and demand personal permissions. For example for me that would be completely unreasonable, because I have hundreds of videos of games from dozens of developers/game studios and I doubt I would be able to get permissions from all of them.

Luckily the GOL Casts at least fall under fair-use and I am sure we can talk our way through those, but let's plays are on the grey zone between what is acceptable and what is not.
AMD's OpenGL Performance Is Nothing Close To Nvidia On This Benchmark
By , 31 May 2014 at 5:11 am UTC
It's worth mentioning that this tests are for 'cool new features in OpenGL 4.x', as mentioned in the source. He even says that most of them are not available in the Mac drivers, so I doubt there is any game on Linux currently that takes advantage of them. In my experience, the problem of the catalyst driver is not the performance, but the bugs that can even crash your system. Several devs mentioned that they had to work around those issues.
AMD's OpenGL Performance Is Nothing Close To Nvidia On This Benchmark
By , 31 May 2014 at 4:02 am UTC Likes: 1
if amd focuses even more on the open source driver like intel does, I think that could be a game changer for the industry as a whole.

then nvidia would be the last left with closed drivers
Unity3D Releases Unity 4.5 & With It Comes Major Linux Fixes
By pd12, 31 May 2014 at 3:53 am UTC
I just commented on my experience with GoI (and PA) at http://issuetracker.unity3d.com/issues/screen-dot-lockcursor-under-linux-breaks-input-dot-getaxis
I hope this update REALLY fixes the Unity mouse looking up thing, especially seeing as it says Linux: Fixed "jump" when initially locking mouse cursor. But my problem is persistent and not a "jump". (See the issue tracker link for more details).

I'd like to play Rust but maybe when it's a bit cheaper (althought it looks like CT uniformed players in bases going out and killing cavemen) =P
New Release: Among The Sleep A Horror Game From A Toddlers Perspective, Has Issues
By , 31 May 2014 at 3:49 am UTC
cool amnesia toddler style !
AMD's OpenGL Performance Is Nothing Close To Nvidia On This Benchmark
By commodore256, 31 May 2014 at 3:32 am UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: Anonymousamd sucks. I hope they go out of business. I really do.

So you want Nvidia to be a Monopoly? Also, I had a 4870 and the open source drivers for that Card out performed the GTX 460 Linux Binary Drivers that I replaced it with a year ago. (even though that Nvidia card runs better in Windows than that 4870 ever could)
Youtube Are Being Stupid On Video Monetization Yet Again
By pd12, 31 May 2014 at 3:21 am UTC
Actually, I think that was an example, and devs saying "anyone can monetize videos of our games" or "we have no problem with you[plural] monetizing videos of our game" should be OK.
You just need to find that blogpost they said it in .. =D
AMD's OpenGL Performance Is Nothing Close To Nvidia On This Benchmark
By , 31 May 2014 at 2:56 am UTC
  • AMD should start to be consistent on linux: one open GNU GPL protected driver and drop that horrible thing which is catalyst. Their closed source driver is illegal anyway. Linus T. is just letting them being naughty... for the moment...

  • They should start to code properly in linux! Sometimes I wonder if their code is not straight from crosoft shi., because it's sooooooo broken and bad. They should use common sense too: it's far better to have more code with simple code paths than less code but with brain damaged code paths (Over code factorization). But I'm bad mouthing: it seems they are *extremely* slowly moving towards that equilibrium

  • Opengl is a joke: from nvidia software engineers (!!), very little of the opengl API should be used in order to get the best of modern GPUs (see the steam dev days).

  • benchmarks are most of the time quite bias: that benchmark was optimized for that GPUs, the driver was optimized for this benchmark... or the benchmark code paths happen to favor this driver and not the other ones, etc. Devil hides in the details.

  • hardware design is easily worse than software design... then the driver won't be nice

  • As far as I'm concern, dota2/portal2/team fortress2 do run faster with the radeon open source driver (mesa/radeon southern island).

AMD's OpenGL Performance Is Nothing Close To Nvidia On This Benchmark
By neffo, 31 May 2014 at 1:16 am UTC
Latest Beta drivers right? The ones that weren't released until after the game was out?

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/10/04/raging-about-rage-pc/
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/05/20/wolfenstein-new-order-pc-problems/

(It's not just an AMD issue though, but Nvidia seems to be a bit snappier on the fixes. And WNO runs under WHQL drivers, not just beta ones.)
AMD's OpenGL Performance Is Nothing Close To Nvidia On This Benchmark
By n30p1r4t3, 31 May 2014 at 12:53 am UTC
Quoting: neffo
Quoting: Gentleman SquidI just wish they supported their cards in Linux a lot more. Been like this for too long. Performance with NVidia and Linux has been smoother for a while now.
It's not just Linux they are doing a terrible job on, it's also terrible on Windows (in OpenGL). idTech5 engines for example.

What are you talking about? Wolfenstein: N.O. runs flawless on my rig with the latest drivers.
AMD's OpenGL Performance Is Nothing Close To Nvidia On This Benchmark
By neffo, 31 May 2014 at 12:49 am UTC
Quoting: Gentleman SquidI just wish they supported their cards in Linux a lot more. Been like this for too long. Performance with NVidia and Linux has been smoother for a while now.

It's not just Linux they are doing a terrible job on, it's also terrible on Windows (in OpenGL). idTech5 engines for example.
AMD's OpenGL Performance Is Nothing Close To Nvidia On This Benchmark
By PUN, 31 May 2014 at 12:22 am UTC
I'm huge AMD fan but looking at the drivers evolution, my next video card will be one from Nvidia. They way better drivers.
Valve Has Yet Again Greenlit 35 More Linux Games For Steam
By Gentleman Squid, 30 May 2014 at 11:47 pm UTC
I'm a biased, but also saddened. I would have preferred games that are at a playable state. Rise of the Ravager isn't even close to be Greenlit :(
AMD's OpenGL Performance Is Nothing Close To Nvidia On This Benchmark
By Gentleman Squid, 30 May 2014 at 11:34 pm UTC
Quoting: Anonymousamd sucks. I hope they go out of business. I really do.
I just wish they supported their cards in Linux a lot more. Been like this for too long. Performance with NVidia and Linux has been smoother for a while now.
Valve Has Yet Again Greenlit 35 More Linux Games For Steam
By edo, 30 May 2014 at 10:58 pm UTC
Quoting: pb
Quoting: edoI have the same doubt about why a really cool game as cue club 2 hasn't been greenlighted yet. It's just because its not popular.
Cue Club 2 looks a lot like Arcade Pool, I like it! But where's the Linux version? :P
They said (in the comments in the greenlight page):
"I'm afraid no Linux or Mac version initially, but when we get the PC version released, we will certainly look into this, along with the multiplayer."
AMD's OpenGL Performance Is Nothing Close To Nvidia On This Benchmark
By , 30 May 2014 at 10:44 pm UTC Likes: 2
Quoting: Anonymousamd sucks. I hope they go out of business. I really do.
While they have the most horrible drivers in existence, AMD is the only thing really keeping Intel and NVIDIA in check. It'd be a lot worse for all of us if they weren't in the industry.
AMD's OpenGL Performance Is Nothing Close To Nvidia On This Benchmark
By , 30 May 2014 at 10:39 pm UTC
amd sucks. I hope they go out of business. I really do.
AMD's OpenGL Performance Is Nothing Close To Nvidia On This Benchmark
By abelthorne, 30 May 2014 at 10:09 pm UTC
Yeah, AMD perfs suck. But that's not the worst part: the most serious issue IMO is that the Catalyst driver on Linux has a lot of bugs that make some games crash or even unable to start!

I'd be curious to see the same detailed stats on a Windows machine with DirectX. I'm not sure they would be that different from the perfs on Linux...
Ask The Community: Your Thoughts On The Steam Client Being DRM
By , 30 May 2014 at 9:36 pm UTC
i think its gets a drm stamp because the steam client bits are not open source. The day the client gets opened and you are free to monitor the inner workings and how it communicates with the server back-ends, the drm stamp would move to a more specific target, my guess would be some sort encrypted communication layer between client>server, leaving the rest of the client in the open. Then that secret *drm* bit could be pointed at and complained about.

But ye that's my guess. Hopefully some day we will have an open sourced steam client, and in compliance with the open source philosophy.
AMD's OpenGL Performance Is Nothing Close To Nvidia On This Benchmark
By Liam Dawe, 30 May 2014 at 9:24 pm UTC
Quoting: AnonymousLiam, you might ask grahamsellers on Twitter if he wants to comment on that numbers/blog posts.
Good idea, just did.
AMD's OpenGL Performance Is Nothing Close To Nvidia On This Benchmark
By , 30 May 2014 at 9:22 pm UTC
Liam, you might ask grahamsellers on Twitter if he wants to comment on that numbers/blog posts.
Anomaly Defenders Released For Linux, The Last In The Anomaly Series
By Maquis196, 30 May 2014 at 9:08 pm UTC
I agree, I completed both Anomaly games without a hitch.

Anecdotal I know, but the joys of PC gaming...
Anomaly Defenders Released For Linux, The Last In The Anomaly Series
By , 30 May 2014 at 8:34 pm UTC
I never experienced any bugs in all three games.
Spacebase DF-9, A Space Station Building Sim Alpha 5 Released For Linux
By , 30 May 2014 at 7:52 pm UTC
Quoting: liamdawe
Quoting: mintguyAt the moment, alpha 5 is only released for Windows. The Linux and Mac builds are still on their way.
No it's not, I did check myself and it is out for Linux.

You're right. Now my Steam client shows it too. Sorry! =)
New Release: Among The Sleep A Horror Game From A Toddlers Perspective, Has Issues
By GoCorinthians, 30 May 2014 at 7:42 pm UTC
Damn...no patch yet! :'(
Defense Zone 2 Tower Defence Moves Out Of Early Access, Available For Linux
By gemini, 30 May 2014 at 6:33 pm UTC
Quite similar to iBomber defense pacific, except that the "attacking forces" don´t attack. So far I prefer iBomber, but I have only played through the first two levels of Defense zone 2 though.
New Release: Among The Sleep A Horror Game From A Toddlers Perspective, Has Issues
By scaine, 30 May 2014 at 6:18 pm UTC
Yeah, the demo worked flawlessly for me too on my Nvidia card, so something must have changed for this to happen. I'm pretty sure I've pledged for this one though, so I might as well check it out this weekend.
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