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Quoting: natis1It's very pretty but my god is the gameplay miserable. I couldn't play it for more than an hour.

Can you elaborate? Was it too clunky or simple? Did the game feel too high level? Sorry to ask so many questions, I just got a blip of hope from the trailer.

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I’ve got to hand it to the video game industry, making people pay to beta test a free-to-play game is a baller move.

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Rolling-release or semi-rolling-release packages often cause far too many problems for end users because they release new packages without even bothering to test them ;-(

Btw it is common practice to only update to Nth release of Fedora when N+1th release comes out (so you should stay on 42 until 44 is out, then update to 43), and this is what ublue does by default iirc, their default recommended download is always one version behind Fedora. On the other hand, because Fedora is semi-rolling, I'm not really sure how effective this is, but it probably is, since people do that.

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Whew, must've missed this one whenever it happened.
Turns out, laziness in updating pays !

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It's very pretty but my god is the gameplay miserable. I couldn't play it for more than an hour.

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Visually it has 10 times more appeal to me than Warframe. I will be following it closely

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I remain confident Fedora will find ways to muck it up even with a system in place to prevent mucking it up.

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The mesa update was this one: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2025-82b66363b4 (it's linked in the chatter link in the article inside the forum post).

It has multiple people saying it was broken, and was still pushed out.

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Did I miss a big Fedora update with Mesa issues? I was still stuck on Fedora 42 until yesterday so I probably missed it. Turns out that it didn't want to update while Wine was installed.

Having a special interest group for stability sounds like a good idea though. Ubuntu has a lot of design choices I don't agree with, Mint and Debian don't update quick enough and GarudArch is too unstable for my daily driver, but Fedora's got a good balance of stability and new packages without having a load of Ubuntuisms that I don't really agree with.

Between the AI and the 32-bit fiasco I've kind of been losing trust in Fedora, but I do want to stick with them if I can. If I do end up distrohopping again however then I'm probably off to Debian land. The more I use that distro on my teritiary older computer, the more I find myself liking it.

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Hmmm KDE Neon.... Well it's easy to replace if you don't want it!

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I had Fedora installed (in addition to Steam OS) on my living room mini PC, which is 100% AMD and connected to my TV.

My daughter and I wanted to watch a movie the other day. Apparently, the Mesa update was causing stuttering when watching the movie with VLC or any other video player.

I rebooted the PC into Steam OS so I could watch the movie smoothly without any issues. Later, I removed Fedora and installed Debian instead...

Rolling-release or semi-rolling-release packages often cause far too many problems for end users because they release new packages without even bothering to test them ;-(

Personally, I refuse to be treated like a beta tester of buggy software solutions. If you're leaving Windows, it's not to encounter the same instability problems under Linux... ;-(

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Quoting: Pyrate

Quoting: ScottCarammell

Quoting: legluondunetIs wayland mature today for a day by day use and for a gamer config?

Alien: Isolation crashes on startup

I played Alien: Isolation start to finish on Wayland last year. Could be something else youre facing, or a recent regression.

Using AMD for my PC. Consistently crashed on my PC and on Steam Deck in gaming mode (both wayland), but worked fine on those same systems on X11 and desktop mode (both x11). This has been the case since the Steam Deck launched and is why it uses Proton by default. I feel confident in calling it a Wayland-origin issue.

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My picks:

GOTY: Digimon Story Time Stranger (DSTS)
VR GOTY: Assetto Corsa Rally (ACR)
Labour of Love: X4 Foundations
Best on Deck: DSTS
Friends: ACR
Visual Style: Stories from Sol The Gun-Dog
Gameplay: ACR
Game I Suck At: ACR
Soundtrack: DSTS
Story: DSTS
Relax: Seeds of Calamity

As you can see, there were two games released this year which I really like and I wear my heart on my sleeve.

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Disolver Group.

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I'm tempted to get the LCD model with the 20% discount, to try out the concept of a Steam Deck without spending too much. This is because I don't know if I'll really have any time to play (I've barely gamed at all in the last few years, even after buying games I was really keen to play). My main concern is fan noise, and disturbing people in the same room. Do the current LCD models have the quieter fan, or is it still random whether I'll get a noisy one? And is the OLED model any quieter, apart from all the other improved features?

I just tried with Shadow Of War, and I can hardly hear my Steam Deck. AFAIR, they had a software update for the problematic fan type. I don't know if they're still using it.

Steam Deck LED is good.

But, to be honest: If you're not playing in the first place, do you thing Steam Deck will change that?

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I'm tempted to get the LCD model with the 20% discount, to try out the concept of a Steam Deck without spending too much. This is because I don't know if I'll really have any time to play (I've barely gamed at all in the last few years, even after buying games I was really keen to play). My main concern is fan noise, and disturbing people in the same room. Do the current LCD models have the quieter fan, or is it still random whether I'll get a noisy one? And is the OLED model any quieter, apart from all the other improved features?

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Technically we ALL use xorg to run games without "native" Wayland compatibility, right?

How so? Can you explain this further?

@Chrisznix - old Linux games rely on xorg for display and a "nested" version of xorg is being launched in Wayland for them when they launch

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Quoting: tpau@chr , why make it more complicated than it has to though? ;)
Have it simple and then offer the option to built fancy stuff on top of it for those that want to invest more time.

Oh yeah ofc it could and probably should be a convenient built-in feature 👍️. I just got lost problem-solving how to make your current life more convenient 😅.

Speaking of which, I had a quick glance at the KDE Store and found this to look very promising for your use case! [Store link](https://store.kde.org/p/1909220), [Github link](https://github.com/gerritdevriese/kzones) with better demonstration/explanation in the Readme.

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Pixel bewbz so sharp they'll poke your eyes out.

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Ugh, I forgot that IBM owns Red Hat now. Even more of a reason to never touch Fedora ever again...

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Vote Castle Crashers for Labor of Love!

Normally I don't cheerlead for shit like this, but I like The Behemoth people. They genuinely seem cool and it's a great game too.

I also mainly voted for the badge. Cause I would've in years past had I known that you got one. lol

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Nice! It always felt awkward leaving my Deck screen on while it was sitting around just downloading stuff.

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TAA is also known for stuff like ghosting. But maybe it's worth it? idk
Old FSR versions at least also looked pretty bad, but I'm not really sure how it is with 100% resolution, especially newer versions

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I just voted Megabonk for all categories except VR because I was in a hurry to play it.

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Quoting: WorMzyI submitted Factorio for Labor of Love. That is all.

RimWorld (coincidentally also crowdfunded in 2013). Though it was a hard choice between that and Stellaris. My two favorite war crime simulators.

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Quoting: nullzeroMy Votes (so far)...

Sit Back and Relax Award: [Cast and Chill](https://store.steampowered.com/app/3483740?snr=1_steamawards_nominations_)

When I saw the award category "Sit Back and Relax Award", Cast and Chill immediately came to mind. With the word "Chill" in the title, how can it not be nominated? I have almost 60 hours relaxing with this game.

I have over 75 hours in Necesse. I nominated this game for the "Better With Friends Award." I recently rented a server from Shockbyte so my son (who lives in another state), two grandsons and I could play together. We have built quite a settlement over the last few weeks. I would highly recommend this game to anyone that enjoys open-world, base-building, survival, adventure games (e.g., Minecraft or Terraria).

I have also played Mudborne. I got somewhat discouraged when the genetic breeding of frogs came into play. I had the same problem with TNgineers first game, APICO. I get easily overwhelmed by all the possible combinations.

Thank you for the detailed listing of your nominations nullzero!

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RedHat and therefore IBM are terrible stewards of Xorg, which lead to the forking and creation of XLibre, which unlike Xorg is __NOT__ on "life support" with people trying to kill the project.

I've now read about Wayland for 15 years, and it still has basic issues according to conjecture.

Viva La X

More Choices, More Better.

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X11, openbox, and no DE... from my cold dead hands.

In reality, I'll switch to Wayland eventually, but not until I am either forced (by X breaking or something?) or I build a new rig (and since I just built one, probably 5 more years).

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Hey folks! I'm the director of Schrodinger's Cat Burglar. Thank you for featuring out game!

Just a quick note concerning the Key Art - it is most certainly human painted, not AI. The artist in question is Tom Williams - https://www.instagram.com/tomwilliams_art - he painted it back in 2022 when we first appeared at PAX Australia. We've had a few comments from people who are not keen on games using Generative AI.

I fully agree! We aren't using Gen AI at all, and we will never. I appreciate that people are concerned on this issue because they are defending the rights of real artists against what essentially is automated plagiarism.

We are in the process of updating our key art, and the new piece (again, by Tom) will likely be in a more 'comic book' style (similar to the prologue video in the demo). Hopefully this will put people's fears of Gen AI to rest.

Again, thanks for taking an interest in our game :)

Martin

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Hm, still using X11, still using XFCE, still a good penguin.

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