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As someone mentioned in their user review, the game appears to have:

- Mandatory Battle net account linking
- Always-online / online DRM

:-(

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I wouldn't be surprised that they would introduce some kind of hardware revision to justify price increase. Maybe not steam deck 2 but something like nintendo did with switch oled

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Quoting: LampHope that this accellerates their decision to drop the x86 arcitecture for handheld compute and go all in on ARM

Isn't the CPU that's the bottleneck.

It's RAM, storage and GPU.

ARM processors still need good old main memory.

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So far ray tracing games that ive tested were CP2077, RE8 and Elden Ring. With CP2077 ray tracing is bugged making some trees go all black etc. RE8 had a PCGamingWiki noted bug where performance gets constantly lower when using ray tracing. With Elden Ring i get stutters with ray tracing enabled. I wonder if this driver would help to alleviate the stutters in Elden Ring.

So far it seems that ray tracing implementations are just pretty shoddy and not worth the time. The ray traced reflections do work nicely in CP2077 where i think that the best practice is just to enable the reflections and leave everything else baked in settings.

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Hope that this accellerates their decision to drop the x86 arcitecture for handheld compute and go all in on ARM for the future version of the SteamDeck, pushing down the cost, size and weight.

Then issues like this will dtill be felt but not as much.

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Quoting: SlayerTheChikken

Quoting: GerarderloperAMD/Intel RT performance being quite far behind NVIDIA, and probably still behind.

At least when looking at very heavy RT based games like many running UE5, or CP77.
I think the only reason AMD/Intel look ok in these games atm is because NVIDIA has that COLOSSAL 40-50% performance hit in MANY DX12 RT games. (probably still 3mnths until we see fixes be fully integrated)

Yes, the $1000 more hardware is 1000$ worth better at raytracing, ofcourse.

It's not quite that clear-cut, but it's not far off! It's awkward, because the top end AMD card, the RX9070, doesn't really have a direct equivalent Nvidia card - it's somewhere between a 5070ti and a 5080 (probably nearer the lower end), at least at 4K. I can pick up a RX9070 from scan.co.uk here in the UK for around £650 (which still, to me, feels like a crazy amount of money!). The 5070ti is around the £850. But the next jump up, the 5080 is about £1200, which is... unimaginable (to me).

And then there's the £2750 you'll spend on a 5090. I mean, I wouldn't, but that's scan's price for anyone with money (and electricity) to burn!

But the point is moot for me anyway, on two levels:
a) I'll never buy an Nvidia card again, unless they fully open-source their drivers and get them merged into the kernel.
b) Ray-tracing is utterly underwhelming in every video I've seen using it.

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Let's hope the bubble around AI will burst soon.

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Thank you both, i already felt stupid for the last three times i spun it up and felt the same way.

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Quoting: dpanterOverwatch Overwatch 2 Overwatch 3 Overwatch surely is one of the games of all time. 🍌

Are we sure it's a game and not just a skin shop with occasional shooting allowed? 😄

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Quoting: KimyrielleI have zero doubt that the people actually leaving Discord will be a rounding error, and the vast majority of users will continue using it. If people had a spine, our word wouldn't be the place it is.

It's easier said than done. If a gaming group of 10 people decides they want to leave, they're gonna have 20 opinions on where to go and so rather than arguing about it endlessly they figure it's better to just stay. There's sadly no alternative that screams "Discord refugees come here".

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Quoting: t3rr0rh4wkAnyone still willing to remain deserves any and all of the dystopian b.s. that Discord is pulling here. Please, please make the jump to something else. We have the power here. They barely support us on Linux anyway. We're clearly not very worth their time, so let's treat them in kind.

Tell that to my boss... We have to usesuffer Discord at work...

Quoting: PixelDropWhen all the Unreal devs and..etc stop using Discord as their main source of priority suppor

Funny that you mention Unreal, because it is luckily not using Discord, but rather this forum: https://epicprosupport.epicgames.com

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Gonna test it out with mesa-git later today on Tokyo Xtreme Racer, which is the only game I currently play that has ray tracing.

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Quoting: pb

Quoting: dziadulewicz

Quoting: williamjcmI hope it'll get released as a Flatpak, because I don't like installing stuff through the AUR or pip.

Exactly. A flatpak or a snap or best both. It's BS for this day and age to not be able to install a damn app with a couple of clicks, honestly 😀

yay -S prefixer *is* a couple of clicks ;p

Huhh dat a termnial command so no its not jus clicks

My keyboard is clicking, too.
So, never saw it that way before, but yes, it's a bunch of clicks.

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Quoting: Linuxer

Quoting: pbyay -S prefixer *is* a couple of clicks ;p

Huhh dat a termnial command so no its not jus clicks

Why, 'tis a mere nineteen clicks to enter it with a virtual keyboard! Not a single key-stroke necessary! 😉

(Unless, does yay require sudo? Then it'd be more… 🤔)

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Yup I had a similar frustrating experience. Essentially though it was a 9GB patch, it was quite disappointing. Still kudos to Hello Games for bringing out free updates for the last ... um decade now?

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Quoting: dpanterOverwatch Overwatch 2 Overwatch 3 Overwatch surely is one of the games of all time. 🍌

Wait, so Blizzard can't count to 3 either? 🤔

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I played a good chunk of it today, and take my advice...don't.

This is an expedition for people who thought driving the Mako was the best part of the Mass Effect series, but didn't think it was nearly frustrating enough. Remnant fixes that problem.

Essentially, imagine driving an open flatbed (this far-flung technological future doesn't include cargo nets, apparently) across a very rough landscape that's riddled with holes you can fit the entire thing into and climbs that are nearly vertical. Occasionally you are attacked by sentinals if you happen to run over the wrong rock. You are tasked with hauling physics objects that are apparently made of rubber from a depot to a disposal facility. Your truck, thanks to an increasingly powerful engine, is also harder to drive gently with. If your cargo jostles too much, it might explode.

Now do this FIVE TIMES. The exact same routine. Oh, and the margins are low, and you can soft-lock yourself if you lose too much cargo because of the exploding thing, and it's easy to lose stuff in the terrain if it bounces out of the truck.

It's bad, y'all. This is probably going to be the first expedition I've failed to complete. Although just driving around isn't too bad, so call that ending on a positive note.

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Quoting: Grishnakh

Quoting: williamjcmI hope it'll get released as a Flatpak, because I don't like installing stuff through the AUR or pip.

I much prefer terminal because I can see what's going on, flatpak only when no other options are available. But I already know I'm not mainstream, just glad there are the different options for everyone.

Flatpak *can* be used from the terminal, though. GUI frontends are completely optional.

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Quoting: GerarderloperAMD/Intel RT performance being quite far behind NVIDIA, and probably still behind.

At least when looking at very heavy RT based games like many running UE5, or CP77.
I think the only reason AMD/Intel look ok in these games atm is because NVIDIA has that COLOSSAL 40-50% performance hit in MANY DX12 RT games. (probably still 3mnths until we see fixes be fully integrated)

Yes, the $1000 more hardware is 1000$ worth better at raytracing, ofcourse.

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Hm, the guide doesn't have some of the newer custom Proton builds like proton-cachyos (and proton-cachyos-slr which is probably worth explaining because I also had to look up the difference), Proton EM that I think is focused on Wayland, and dwproton (dawn-winery) that's focused on non-Steam gacha games compatibility.

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I have zero doubt that the people actually leaving Discord will be a rounding error, and the vast majority of users will continue using it. If people had a spine, our word wouldn't be the place it is.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyThere should be a game about submarines and/or scuba diving combat, called Underwatch.

and the space version Outerwatch

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Quoting: iliyalesanitried wine, wine-staging-tkg, proton experimental, proton-ge, proton-tkg, reinstalled battle.net multiple times on different prefixes even cleared appdata and programdata but still nothing. gave VPN and tethering mobile network a shot as well. the result was always the same:
"Battle.net Update Agent went to sleep. Attempting to wake it up... BLZBNTBNA00000005".

This happened to me as well. Looks like the latest Battle.net launcher update broke something. This is how I fixed it in Lutris.

Close Lutris, then

 
# pkill -9 Battle.net
# pkill -9 Agent
# pkill -9 Blizzard

# rm -rf ~/Games/battlenet/drive_c/ProgramData/Battle.net/Agent
# rm -rf ~/Games/battlenet/drive_c/ProgramData/Blizzard\ Entertainment
Open Lutris, start Battle.net. You will have to login again, but it should be working now. Hope this helps.

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Don't play NMS for myself but I am always happy to hear that Hello Games did not give up the game after the catastrophic launch.
Damn I so hoped Bethesda did the same for Starfield.

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If VR finally just works as good as in Windows (which is a shame for my Valve Index) I can finally get rid of Windows completely.
This is my only use case for Windows. I mean in Linux I cannot even see my desktop because of wayland or I don't know.

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Finally I can play Indiana Jones without constant stuttering 🥰

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Quoting: poiuz

Quoting: F.UltraWhich would be true even if the cut was 1%, so no it is not about the 30% itself. And as I have tried to explain before, the DMA is about lock-in and not some arbitrary cut. Which should be self explanatory since the EU have not went after Valve for their 30% cut on Steam, the DMA case against Valve is only about restricted cross-border sales with zero mentionings of the cut.

I don't think it would be the same if the cut was just 1%. The same is true about Valve.

But yes, we're talking about Apple's cut in general, [30% tax](https://timetoplayfair.com/what-others-are-saying/) is just a representation because that's the default. It's still being investigated although they lowered it to (I think) 27% with external payment processing (as I already said). The cut is part of the DMA because it provides an unfair advantage.

So yes, you're right: Unlike Apple & Co., Valve is actually treated much better since it's only corporate dispute while Apple & Co. face official regulation.

Valve is not a [gatekeeper](https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/gatekeepers_en) (yet) so the DMA does not apply at all. Geo-blocking is a completely different case.

There is not a single mentioning about 30% nor about any value of a cut in the DMA, the DMA is entirely about not abusing your position as a gatekeeper, something that Apple violated by forcing in-app payments to be done by the Apple payment solution _and_ something that they violated by not allowing 3d party app stores to be installed on the iPhone and iPad.

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Overwatch might be trash but I have to give it up to Blizzard for being one of the few devs on earth to do anti-cheat right (server-side).

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tried wine, wine-staging-tkg, proton experimental, proton-ge, proton-tkg, reinstalled battle.net multiple times on different prefixes even cleared appdata and programdata but still nothing. gave VPN and tethering mobile network a shot as well. the result was always the same:
"Battle.net Update Agent went to sleep. Attempting to wake it up... BLZBNTBNA00000005".

same thing with lutris using different versions of wine runners. even tried starting up the agent before and after launching battle.net to no avail:
WINEFSYNC=1 WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.steam/steam/steamapps/compatdata/2240255771/pfx/" "$HOME/.steam/steam/compatibilitytools.d/Proton-Tkg-2634/files/bin/wine" "$HOME/.steam/steam/steamapps/compatdata/2240255771/pfx/drive_c/ProgramData/Battle.net/Agent/Agent.exe"

EDIT / FIX:
using bottles (AUR, not flatpak) with proton-ge 10-30 worked. bottles also applied this launch option:
WINEDLLOVERRIDES="locationapi=d" WINE_SIMULATE_WRITECOPY=1 %command%

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