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This looks so cool!

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Quoting: GoCorinthiansThe bureau!...why not 2k :'(?

Don't rush them, one step at a time, now it's time for Civ V. ;-)

lol...Civ V will not come..but the next Civ Beyond

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Hope it will be released on Desura too

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Quoting: GoCorinthiansThe bureau!...why not 2k :'(?

That game is complete garbage. :/

Anyhoo, I already own X-COM:EU and will be picking up the expansion :Enemy Within the second the Linux version is ready. It's one of the few games I managed to just totally lose myself in.

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Quoting: GoCorinthiansThe bureau!...why not 2k :'(?

Don't rush them, one step at a time, now it's time for Civ V. ;-)

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The bureau!...why not 2k :'(?

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Quoting: GuestI hope the game has written text because I couldn’t understand a lot of the speech in the trailer.

This.
Otherwise, it looks very atmospheric and beautiful.

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Let's not make this a back and forth about the C4 engine guys, if you wish to carry that on I suggest a forum post ;)

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Will be bought for *sure*, even though strategy is not my favourite kind of games.

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Nice. I backed this project, the only Kickstarter I've ever given money to. John's been talking about how good the writing is in this project in his video updates...I hope this is the case. Looking forward to it.

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Looks interesting, like zelda in debug mode :)

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You chose to go out of your way to say "...It's kind of hard, for me personally, to back the project. ...I don't really want to help anyone using the C4 engine."

Its quite clear you took the time to spit on the engine rather than help the developer of a game who did absolutely nothing wrong but use an engine you happen to not like because of your specific experience.

You obviously have some chip on your shoulder. So you had a few posts removed...
So now you feel justified?
You don't see the harm you do to others?
If you wanted to post feedback or comments about the engine, there are much better venues for airing your personal issues rather than dump them on top of a indie developer who merely used the same engine.

This was supposed to be a way to bring good vibes to a good game concept.
Thanks for taking the time out to sink their efforts...

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Well Mack it's kind of hard to see the posts that were removed, when you know they were removed. Maybe you have some kind of special machine to see what once was but is no more.

Did I say all my posts were deleted, no, I said they started to delete my posts. Oh did I say I didn't buy the book, no I didn't. I own the damn thing. Don't go making assumptions because you did one quick little search. Every post I made about webgl was removed. Eric gets really possessive if you mention *** that isn't in his engine.

So if you weren't there reading what was happening while it happened then maybe you can stop accusing people of ***.

I also did love the engine but you know, what good are the tools if the community and developers that make don't like you? It would be like buying a car but one will repair it because you mentioned another brand.

I talked to people about it in the IRC room, this is how Eric is.

I also didn't put down the other developer, I said I couldn't support him. I didn't say "well to hell with him I hope he fails." No, I said I wasn't going to give him my money. That's no different than people who don't find the game interesting and not backing it.

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Oh damn, that reminds me on some old game I loved. I hope it really will be released for Linux.

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I can agree on what Mack says. I didn't use C4 for long though, during engine decision making I dabbled with it (Demo), and the community was very helpful on that, even showing up limitations and explaining why things are done certain ways. Can't say about books, though, the available help is not always sufficient, but for showcases mostly more than enough. If you get deeper, I guess you'll figure out anyway.

I agree that C4 is a good engine to look at, but it has it's limitations (as all other engines do too in certain aspects). Next time on decision making I'll look into it again - it's an interesting choice especially for having a linux toolset as well (easier that way - at least if I think about my testing and debugging workflows). And the pricing model for us (two-person indie dev hobbyists) is pretty interesting, especially the lifetime 750 $ version isn't a huge investment.

For game developers it's important an engine provides easy ports and debugging abilities to an operating system. Most testing you still do on the major platform (Windows), since that's 95 % of the people you'll have to support, but you will have to test and support the others too - if you target them.

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I have a special place reserved on my disk for XCOM (already bought it last year, on first gossips about Linux version). I've been waiting to play an XCOM game ever since finishing UFO: Enemy Unknown on Amiga for the n-th time. ;-)

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So, I was popping in to see how some fellow C4 devs were doing... and WTH...
I see this Migizi post...

I challenge Migizi on many of his comments.

The C4 Community is awesome, with rare exception. Most everyone there will bend over backwards to help people out.

No engine is perfect. It takes a lot of dedication and additionally a commitment to persistence in order to achieve ones programming goals. There are plenty of things that can be improved, but the engine makes decent progress. Its a pretty low blow to fail to support the C4 Engine just because of some posts about emscripten.

Just like any forum, there are times when people get pretty inappropriate. We hardly ever see posts being removed, but perhaps occasionally it happens.

The "Migizi" in the C4 Engine forum has the following post: "So now that I have a license I've been playing around with the engine. I can say that I'm in love with it. I wish I could get more people to see how awesome it is."

I challenge anyone to visit:
http://www.terathon.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=12516&p=113542#p113542

and they can see for themselves.

IF this is TRULY Migizi... then you have clearly gone awry.
Why did you not purchase the latest C4 Engine book ???
There's a ton of stuff in there that could help you.
Or post questions in the forum about your problems?

LOOK, we all want the best for the C4 Engine... especially because we want to see it do well on platforms on Linux! (And I don't even know much about Linux... but I sure would love to see more games on it.)

Its a rediculous shame to not support this game just because you have a beef with the C4 Engine.

And BTW... The C4 Engine is really good. Its low relatively low cost for full source, and good support. And of course, a great community.
Just like any place, there are issues that need to be resolved.

But putting it down on another Developer's Dream of Making a great Kickstarter game... that's pretty low.

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Well, I've been playing it on my nexus 5 for quite a while now, but desktop version is most welcome:D

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Looks like that confirms Feral Interactive are doing the port!

This will be their first linux game. They're very well respected on the mac side of things, often putting in extra mac only features that aren't in the windows build.

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Also worth noting that OpenXcom is fast approaching v1.0: http://openxcom.org/

This is shaping up to be the year of tactical alien-warfare simulators.

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Quoting: migiziI'm all for tower defense games but lately it seems the market is flooded with them. It's hard to know which ones are worth it and which ones are just shovel-ware.

All the TD players of the Warcraft 3 era have chosen to become developers, and bring out their TD fantasies in standalone games! You're dead right that it's hard to find a good standalone TD now.

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Been waiting on this one for quite a while. I don't mind them taking their time, if it means it will be a quality port.

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I'm all for tower defense games but lately it seems the market is flooded with them. It's hard to know which ones are worth it and which ones are just shovel-ware.

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Quoting: GuestNice trailer! (Even though it doesn’t show any gameplay… But there’s a demo so it’s okay.) I don’t like unfinished games though so I’ll wait.

After playing the game you wouldn't really know it was unfinished. I guess I haven't looked to see what else they want to add but the game is very fun. I found it worth my money and will probably play for a long time.

It's also interesting to see that they used Allegro since I haven't heard of any recent games coming out that use it.

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I bought a license for the engine a few years ago and was going to use it for my development. The community is pretty up tight. I mentioned using emscripten to make a WebGL game and they got upset. They started to delete my posts on the forum. Since documentation isn't the best you need the community to help you. Since we didn't get along I couldn't proceed. So I walked away from it.

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Quoting: Mefsimply manpower (atm 1 active dev around)

this :( for this awesome game!

best arena shooter ever!
glad Vic continue updating the game!

Cheers!

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Quoting: migiziIt looks pretty interesting. It's kind of hard, for me personally, to back the project. I want to support anyone offering Linux support but on the other hand I don't really want to help anyone using the C4 engine.

Interesting never heard anything bad of C4 engine, what's your beef with it?

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It looks pretty interesting. It's kind of hard, for me personally, to back the project. I want to support anyone offering Linux support but on the other hand I don't really want to help anyone using the C4 engine.

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Reminds me of Gish, and that's good.

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What I love the most from the video are the sounds! That coupled with the scanline and crt monitor effect and it's a instant-buy from me!

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