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Where has the EFF been all this time? This is the first I've heard of them getting involved. Finally!

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Quoting: Jarmer^ what's also frustrating about that, is even when you have steam itself set to use whatever version of proton as the default (so for me it's proton-cachyos-11) - if there's a native linux build, you often won't even know it's running on that instead of proton.

It's a little hidden, but in the Steam library, if you click on the (i) to "Show game details" there is a "Runs on this computer" section that indicates what runtime is used. That could be Steam Linux Runtime, Proton, etc.

oh wow, I can see that now. But that's beyond hidden. So much so I've been using steam for like 2 decades and I didn't even know that was there! Oh well, good to know for now thank you!

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Plenty of optimizations too, a bunch of which is for mobile chip

Note that the Frame [uses Turnip.](https://www.igalia.com/2025/11/helpingvalve.html)

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I'll be waiting for full release + reading up on community thoughts since this title has had such a cursed development cycle. No idea what to expect.

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I even struggle to convince my partner on why bans are a BAD THING.

If there is illegal activities happening in some streets, the solution is not to ban access to streets.
Nor is it viable to have a police officer that constantly checks that you're allowed to be on a street, even going to the point of investigating if you really appear to be living in that house that you're busy going into.

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Quoting: scaineThis isn't of interest to me, so I can't say for sure, but I can't think of many other big-name vendors that would do this. I mean, I expect they'll already have given this to skin-creator vendors like dbrand, but making the schematic public, directly? That's pretty cool.

Absolutely same boat!

I don't care for it, I don't even care for anything that could be made with it (custom cases, stands, whatever it might be)...

... but it's so cool, and it is part of what makes Valve the cooler company!

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Looks interesting. I'm assuming this is just coop multiplayer and not something asymmetrical where one person plays as the Kaiju.

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> Valve continue to impress with their openness when it comes to their hardware.

Still far away from open hardware, but I was not even expecting an open source case. Well done Valve.

I already looked into both files. The STL file (for 3D graphic programs as Blender) is ~75MiB big in size. It is a super high resolution file with a single surface. So you have to cut them apart manually, which is annoying. The STP file (for CAD software) is ~8MiB and contains detailed surfaces you can select and edit easier.

If I find some time I may create my own case. There are some pretty unique ideas in my head.

Quoting: LoudTechieThe most major party besides Valve that does this seems to be [framework](https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/Framework-Laptop-13).

[Purism released everything](https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/hw) for their pocketcomputer Librem 5. Not just the CAD files, but also the actual hardware schematics. There is still room for improvements as opening the CPU (which becomes possible with RISC-V open hardware CPU manufacturers).

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I can't think of many other big-name vendors that would do this

If I'm not mistaken, Keychron did this not too long ago, but really I cannot think of another ones, except from Framework, as LoudTechie said.

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The cynic in me still thinks it was a small release on purpose, despite all the polite speak about underestimating demand.

Would be happy to be proved wrong.

But now resigned to hopefully pick one up on a later release.

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Nice, that game was an old favorite of mine. Time to revisit, I guess :)

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: Craggles086Anyone else find headphone jack on the PlayStation controller annoying. My sound is always connected to external speakers on my computer. As soon as the PlayStation controller is connected I loose all sound.

On Windows it is a pain finding the setting to disable controller audio every time. Hope Steam gives us a setting that stays on if their controller gets audio out

Your desktop environment and/or sound system should have an option to disable any sound sink, no?

Probably easier to setup on Linux, on Windows I have to disable it every time in settings. Buried three or four deep. Will look for disabling sound sink options..

Wonder how long till second round of Steam Controller sales. Did they underestimate demand do you think? Or did they do a small release to test the waters?

https://www.eurogamer.net/valve-statement-steam-controller-stock

We covered that news on the stock directly...

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: Craggles086Anyone else find headphone jack on the PlayStation controller annoying. My sound is always connected to external speakers on my computer. As soon as the PlayStation controller is connected I loose all sound.

On Windows it is a pain finding the setting to disable controller audio every time. Hope Steam gives us a setting that stays on if their controller gets audio out

Your desktop environment and/or sound system should have an option to disable any sound sink, no?

Probably easier to setup on Linux, on Windows I have to disable it every time in settings. Buried three or four deep. Will look for disabling sound sink options..

Wonder how long till second round of Steam Controller sales. Did they underestimate demand do you think? Or did they do a small release to test the waters?

https://www.eurogamer.net/valve-statement-steam-controller-stock

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They even got their reviews from 2015 (and before) back. :D

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It's a good one!

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Why didn't they name it differently, like, let me be creative, "Steam Controller 2"?!?

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Quoting: Craggles086Anyone else find headphone jack on the PlayStation controller annoying. My sound is always connected to external speakers on my computer. As soon as the PlayStation controller is connected I loose all sound.

On Windows it is a pain finding the setting to disable controller audio every time. Hope Steam gives us a setting that stays on if their controller gets audio out

Your desktop environment and/or sound system should have an option to disable any sound sink, no?

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Hum, one of the few survival games, I'm still thinking of buying. Maybe it's now worth a look, after Valve fixes the Proton issues.

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Quoting: scaineThis isn't of interest to me, so I can't say for sure, but I can't think of many other big-name vendors that would do this. I mean, I expect they'll already have given this to skin-creator vendors like dbrand, but making the schematic public, directly? That's pretty cool.

There certainly aren't.
Physical design publications are pretty sparse and often restricted.
Even source code is more often published than CAD files.

This's exactly, because "it's not of interest to you".
Physical garage development is monumentally more expensive than software development.
Meaning that a much smaller group cares to do it and thus cares to advertise it.

Edit:
The most major party besides Valve that does this seems to be [framework](https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/Framework-Laptop-13).

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There are new crafting and repairing Quality of Life enhancements too.

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This isn't of interest to me, so I can't say for sure, but I can't think of many other big-name vendors that would do this. I mean, I expect they'll already have given this to skin-creator vendors like dbrand, but making the schematic public, directly? That's pretty cool.

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Using beta I've noticed the battery indicator in Big Picture for the original "classic" Steam Controller today. A nice little detail ☺️

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Honestly? I'm over it. I do try to be there, and try to make it so that I contribute to the amount of users Matrix, Fluxer, and Stoat/Revolt.

But it's, like, whatever. I'm using these things to talk to people. I'll be wherever the people I want to talk to are.

I will say that it actually IS annoying to listen to people who are pushing for alternatives act like most of us, fellow Linux users, haven't tried. A lot of us have, and we are open to moving if things if it gets better... But it's just not good enough yet, for one reason or another.

(I am very looking forward to Fluxer app for mobile tho, that's definitely a major reason why I haven't opened the GOL Fluxer server as of late)

Also, someone commented about Discord looking at processes. Here's the thing: if I open the Discord app, instead of a tab on my browser, it's because I do want to show what I'm doing to my friends. You might not be into that, but I like to show what I'm playing/watching because it can be a fun conversation.

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Just in time for when the Steam Controller arrives :)

Maybe I should give it a go then.

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Quoting: JohnologueI'm sure with this first run, people were ready to just keep buying until it sold out.
I assume the next batch will be more normal.

Maybe they should just charge extra for the first run with full transparency that the price goes down after. People who want it NOW can pay, and scalpers are told upfront "you are going to lose a lot of money".

Probably still a bad idea for a lot of reasons. If it was an easy problem, I'm sure people would've had a fix for it by now.

I'm not so sure the next batch will be much more normal. A DigitalFoundry YouTube poll with 20K responses had the following results: 8% got one, 9% didn't get one, 33% would get one later and 50% didn't want one.

The amount of people who didn't get one is just as large as the group that did. So Valve can sell that amount again. And possibly more, as there's even more people who might try to get it next batch as well.

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I dont get why the scalpers are such a big factor at all. No one has gotten just one controller yet, and still their scheme seems to find customers. We know that there will be enough controllers for everyone, so in my book, anyone who pays the scalp-extra can´t be helped. I want so many things very bad, but the anticipation for things is a nice thing, right? It just sucks if you don´t know if you get a chance to get a toy.

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Quoting: Jarmer^ what's also frustrating about that, is even when you have steam itself set to use whatever version of proton as the default (so for me it's proton-cachyos-11) - if there's a native linux build, you often won't even know it's running on that instead of proton.

It's a little hidden, but in the Steam library, if you click on the (i) to "Show game details" there is a "Runs on this computer" section that indicates what runtime is used. That could be Steam Linux Runtime, Proton, etc.

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Since we are on the subject of alternative voice communication programs, I was wondering if anyone has any experience with GameVox:

http://www.gamevox.com

Here is a rather limited comparison of GameVox to Discord on their website:

https://gamevox.com/compare-discord/

It is currently in "public beta." There is a Linux client in addition to clients for iOS, Android, Mac and Windows. The applicaiton works in a web browser and there is self-hosting option. According to the website:

No Personal Data Harvesting: Unlike many competitors, GameVox does not require an email address for account creation and does not use ads or data mining.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyThere is a cynical side of me that says the buzz surrounding "Gizmo sales crash site, gizmo sells out in hours" is bigger than the buzz surrounding "gizmo sells this many units out of a large stockpile" even if the second number is bigger. So, what's the motivation to fix it?

It's definitely a better headline than "$vendor gets rid of unwanted inventory in a massive firesale," that's for sure.

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There is a cynical side of me that says the buzz surrounding "Gizmo sales crash site, gizmo sells out in hours" is bigger than the buzz surrounding "gizmo sells this many units out of a large stockpile" even if the second number is bigger. So, what's the motivation to fix it?

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