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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: NociferAI is selling like hotcakes

AI* is all over the place, but mostly not because any end-users of anything have bought it. Can you really call that "selling like hotcakes"?

*A term which for purposes of the current discussion I am using to mean the Large Language Model "AI" currently bubbling the economy.

I don't see end users paying (yet), but my company did buy AI access (that's supposedly not using our input for anything). Not the whatever trillions they're spending though of course. But in the millions I guess.

Even I have to admit it is selling--it's not like nobody's buying access to AI (although what most of them are paying doesn't pay for the operating costs of the requests they make), it's just that the actual uptake of customers deliberately choosing to pay, as opposed to having it wedged into their search by Google or whatever, doesn't seem to be all that high.

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Some real Weekend at Bernie's parading around the soulless husk of something vibe going on with OW.

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AI

That's all folks!

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Quoting: Cyril

Quoting: Serious_Table

Quoting: CyrilWhat is "silly" is what they did to Overwatch (the first one). I think I will never understand that move.
And about Blizzard as a whole, where is Warcraft IV? WoW II? Starcraft III?

You won't be getting a Warcraft IV ever; that's what World of Warcraft was/is.

But... it's not, WoW isn't an RTS and never will. We can't reduce a game solely on its lore, it's bullshit.
Don't you think it's sad?

We shouldn't be able to just reduce a game to its lore, but as is, that's what Blizzard has done. World of Warcraft is doing better than any singular Warcraft game did, so they aren't incentivized to go and do another. And the Warcraft team is basically wholly focused on WoW (and occasionally Hearthstone, but that's firmly intrenched in the "tangentially related" category).

A Starcraft 3 is more likely as an RTS entry, in this day and age. Especially with Microsoft as their overlords and breathing down their necks.

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*Start of sarcasm*
What?! No anti-cheat issues on Linux?! Unbelievable!"
*End of sarcasm*

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Quoting: Serious_Table

Quoting: CyrilWhat is "silly" is what they did to Overwatch (the first one). I think I will never understand that move.
And about Blizzard as a whole, where is Warcraft IV? WoW II? Starcraft III?

You won't be getting a Warcraft IV ever; that's what World of Warcraft was/is.

But... it's not, WoW isn't an RTS and never will. We can't reduce a game solely on its lore, it's bullshit.
Don't you think it's sad?

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Quoting: CyrilWhat is "silly" is what they did to Overwatch (the first one). I think I will never understand that move.
And about Blizzard as a whole, where is Warcraft IV? WoW II? Starcraft III?

You won't be getting a Warcraft IV ever; that's what World of Warcraft was/is.

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What is "silly" is what they did to Overwatch (the first one). I think I will never understand that move.
And about Blizzard as a whole, where is Warcraft IV? WoW II? Starcraft III?

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Even without the shortages I wasn't really optimistic (if the perfs aren't better than a console released 5 years ago, whith a higher price, what's the point? Who would want to buy that outside our niche?), but now it's even worse... It's really a curse.
The good thing that remains is all the software (Proton etc), it won't go anywhere and will continue to improve. But without the (a good one) Steam Machine the hope to see improvements in other aspects: Linux adoption gain and Anti-cheats mainly is pretty dead.

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I'd buy a non DDR5 option if it came at a lower cost despite lower performance, honestly.

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Quoting: LachuI wonder if I could (in future) create room with women and play with she? Currently AI was use to remove outfit from people. Maybe this will be next step?

It's awful, these fuckers don't need news ideas. Damn world we live in. 😫

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I wonder if I could (in future) create room with women and play with she? Currently AI was use to remove outfit from people. Maybe this will be next step?

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aaaaarrrrgggghhhhh! Does the god damned garboslop ai machine have to ruin EVERYTHING...?

Damned if they do damned if they don't is right unfortunately. I guess a couple $$ price hike and a couple months delay for the machine? So we'll get it june/july for more than we wanted to spend.

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Quoting: RickTheMelonThe biggest trouble with EGS is the fact it is just a store.

It's not only "just a store". It even totally sucks at exactly that point and there have been no improvements from the very beginning (that I noticed at least). I mean ... the store pages don't even tell you if a game SP/MP or not... *If* you are lucky it's somewhere in the text the dev adds, but that's just luck ...

That whole store *only* exists because of their shady business practice of throwing money at devs to either go EGS exclusive or at least be available for free for some time. Without that approach there would hardly anyone being using it at all as it simply serves *no* benefits to users over any other platform.

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Quoting: Doktor-MandrakeIt's amazing how fast these guys are getting these recomps out

What I particularly like is how they let the user upscale but then downsample back to native res. Far better then just bumping up the internal res!

How'd you do that?

It's in the settings menu, under graphics, downsampling quality

You can bring up the settings menu ingame as well by pressing the 'back/select' button on your controller

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Quoting: kuhpunktWhat I don't understand... if they are so hard into pushing AI at any cost, why aren't they just telling their AI to use one of the pre-existing engines like Godot or Unity or Unreal or whatever... and let the AI design levels and missions or whatever.

This crap that they are doing here is just mental. You're just playing a video stream, not a static product. Nothing "exists" here. It's just so dumb.

Because it can't do that. This so called ai can't produce nothing new, it can only copy other people's work.

But even copying would make more sense if this AI actually coded something, create a map layout based on other stuff it's stealing or whatever. But that's not what they are doing.

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Quoting: neolith

The controller can work with any game compatible with the Steam Overlay.

I don't understand. Does the controller in any way rely on Steam Overlay being active? 🤔

I'm curious as to what this means as well

Sounds like the controller might be dependant on steam input maybe

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Quoting: scorp10n2000Why would anyone want to buy games on Un-Epic (shit)Store? 🤔

I only buy games on Steam and GOG.

Not on Itch? I know they've had their controversies around paying the devs/publishers, but I'd still consider them pretty decent.

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Quoting: M@GOidThe biggest troll Valve could do is to launch it on march 3, together with HL3. But unfortunately is not gonna happen in today's situation.

Release on March 3rd, together with Half Life 3, which only runs on GNU/Linux. That'd be a troll move (though highly appreciated with our crowd).

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Quoting: kuhpunktWhat I don't understand... if they are so hard into pushing AI at any cost, why aren't they just telling their AI to use one of the pre-existing engines like Godot or Unity or Unreal or whatever... and let the AI design levels and missions or whatever.

This crap that they are doing here is just mental. You're just playing a video stream, not a static product. Nothing "exists" here. It's just so dumb.

Because it can't do that. This so called ai can't produce nothing new, it can only copy other people's work.

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I'm swearing fervently in my head. Thanks "AI". I'm still planning on getting them, I just hope there isn't too much impact on pricing and delays.

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They'll bite the bullet... of us having to overpay for these devices. This isn't hardware they can sit on too long, and even if normally it could've been possible to sit down with AMD and maybe figure something out right now there's just nothing to figure out if there's nothing to sell.

I'm guessing once it becomes clear Q3 2026 isn't getting any better (the Nvidia guess for the Supers or thereabouts) is when we're getting dates and pricing - at the latest. The growing GPU shortage is perhaps the flipside to this coin, but relying on that too much positions the hardware explicitly as the "less bad" option rather than a "cool affordable device" that perhaps gives this legs rather than a temporary boost to sales While There's Few Other Options Out There.

Maybe. We'll see.

From my point of view... I'm into the controller, and hopefully there's no RAM in there, I'm not in the market for the Steam Machine, and if the Frame isn't a good value I'll just continue skipping VR altogether.

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Valve is really cursed when launching new hardware.
The Deck was also delayed because of chips shortage after the Covid crisis.
And now their new Steam Machine and Steam frame are also facing RAM and storage shortage because of the AI mania.
The concentration of high-end manufacturing capabilities is not helping the consumer electronic market.

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Quoting: KeksusWhat makes them so exited? We had procedurally generated worlds for years. Game engines to quickly import some character model to do basic stuff in them aren't new either. But now you call it AI and everybody acts like it's the second coming of christ.

The difference is you can do this with simple text prompts. It is an impressive tech, but as happens with most generative AI tools, real world use cases might be quite limited. Is it impressive you can get something looking like a Zelda BotW clone in minutes? Yes it is. But it is missing all that makes Zelda BotW a great game (on top of all the legal issues, economical and environmental disaster generative AI is, etc.). Yeah, using generative AI you can generate games in hours, maybe even minutes. But how much will it take generating a game **someone wants to actually play**?

It's like that experiment in which one Cursor guy built a browser in a week, that barely compiled and ran even worse. Is it an impressive feat the slop machine built a browser in a week? Yes, it is (even if it worked really bad when it managed to even start, and relied heavily on Servo code). But that's as far as the slop machine will take it. How much effort would take to patch those millions of lines of technical debt until you reach a production ready web browser? I suspect you'd be better throwing all of it to the trash and start from scratch, now with a real brain doing the work.

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This is very bad news, at least for the Steam Machine. It's a bit tight performance wise, so each day it is delayed, it becomes less and less attractive.

So yeah, we can thank Sam Altman for killing one of the best opportunities after de Deck, for Linux to gain market share. At least thanks to him, we can feed ourselves tons of slop on Youtube 🤮

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new half life game on the Steam machine? kinda like alex kidd in miracle world on the master system II???

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While this is somewhat bad news, and very unlucky for Valve, I'm going to practice some positivism (don't get used to it):

- If the devices are delayed, it will mean more developing time for HDMI VRR (HUGE, btw!!), FSR, Leap, Frame UI, QA for all of it... and maybe even for a Half-Life 3 🤣 Plus whatever I'm forgetting.
- I'd prefer waiting 6 months and see a price most people can get on board with, that rushing the release and see the machines flop.
- It also gives us more time to save some ££$$€€ (Will even start saving on groceries too when I change my diet to solely eating the rich)

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Quoting: CatKiller

Quoting: PhiladelphusI must be misunderstanding this, because I don't really see much benefit from foveated streaming.

The benefit is in limited bandwidth. The Frame doesn't have a wired option - it can only be used wirelessly. Foveated streaming doesn't reduce the rendering load at all, it's true, but it does maintain the perceived quality of the image where bandwidth is limited or variable.

Less data means less transmission time, means lower lag. The problem with (wireless) streaming is too much data to get it to the other side with as little delay as possible. And delay is what makes you feel sick.

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The controller can work with any game compatible with the Steam Overlay.

I don't understand. Does the controller in any way rely on Steam Overlay being active? 🤔

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we do intend to support Index owners the same way we have in the past

So not very much at all then 😅
Cameras still not working after all these years

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