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I remember, Starfield came out during a time I didn't keep up with video games and video game news at all. I literally heard of that game for the first time on the same day it was released - in my Steam launcher. Saw that big shiny in-launcher ad, thought "oh, a Bethesda game", downloaded it and absolutely loved it for some 50-60 hours.

Then I looked into the internet about Starfield for the first time and was surprised just how much hate it had garnered. I am pretty sure, had I tried the game with a negative mindset (or with high expectations from someone who waited for it for years), I would have enjoyed it far less or not at all. And I hate that part of me that can be influenced by the opinion of others.

Either way, despite its shortcomings, I will definitely give this update a try. If they somehow fixed the immersion factor of traveling, this would be a huge step into the right direction. The other one would be having more diverse procedural generation, so I could finally have my Daggerfall in space.

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The one thing I'm wondering. Nvidia stated that they used two 5090s for the demos, one for the game and one for the dlss processing. They also stated that it will be releasing this autumn. How is that going two work? Did they really pay off a bunch of studios for demo games so that those 7 people in the world that have a spare 5090 can use it?

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I really liked starfield. It was buggy, and it had a lot of dumb design choices. The main story was terrible until the last two missions, but the side quests and things were all interesting. I am still not sure which path was the right one with the crimson fleet.
As with anything bethesda a few thousand mods made it pretty good.
So I am sort of excited to see where this goes.

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Quoting: scaineI enjoyed my time in Starfield, but not sure I could stomach going back to it, at least not so soon. For me, it was all about the spaceship designer, and even that was often immensely frustrating because parts were so spread through the various systems.

same! I made liberal use of the cheat console to fix these idiotic QOL things though. I just made it so that every ship vendor has every part. Aint nobody got time to figure out who has what and fly all over creation trying to find that one part.

I never found the outposts useful at all so I never even used one LOL. I'm not even sure what they were supposed to be used for? There's been so many updates since I played I bet it's totally different now.

I'm with scaine though, I don't think I'll be going back to it. It was fun, but very forgettable and just kinda meh. And I'm their #1 core demographic: scifi loving rpg playing hyperfan.

Spoiler, click me

It also rubbed me SO the wrong way that the starborn ship and post "ending" stuff was SOOOOO BAD. totally completely utterly USELESS. They didn't even finish the ship, like at all! You get it, and your crew is just standing around awkwardly in an empty space staring off into nothing. What? I had not looked up any spoilers, so I had spent the entire game REALLY looking forward to getting a freakin sweet starborn ship and gear, and etc... then I get it and it's just TERRIBLE. Immediately uninstalled the game then.

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Starfield got boring so quickly, but I struggled through to the end. Took way too long, 52 hours.
I couldn't imagine torturing myself with this game again.

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ROFL That title, however the game looks really cool! I've been meaning to play Ring of Pain, and since they are the same people behind Winnie's Hole. Might as well become familiar with their dark whimsy before eventually buying Winnie's Hole.

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as others have said, it 100% looks fake pornified. Which is just so misogynistic.

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As one of the five people who actually liked Starfield, I am excited.

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Quoting: EhvisImagine being an honest game artist and seeing your creation ruined like that. I guess there is one positive thing. You can now filter out developers that don't care about art simply by their dlss5 support!

Not really, because the artists much likely won't be the ones making the decisions unless we're talking about smaller companies.

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I enjoyed my time in Starfield, but not sure I could stomach going back to it, at least not so soon. For me, it was all about the spaceship designer, and even that was often immensely frustrating because parts were so spread through the various systems.

This does sound pretty cool though, so maybe later in the year.

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Remember the wine-pun era? This is worse. 😅

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When I first saw this...I couldn't believe that Nvidia was proud of these Slop Filters, as Grace looks so haggard and based on what training data might have been used, it screams NSFW based. I've been putting these images on blast on my various socials, as it's so ugly. Honestly, I wouldn't call it "yassifying" as the goal is always making characters gay coded and fabulous. To be honest, all I've seen from the tech is a tired sex worker aesthetic on the women, which says a lot about the source of their Slop training data. However, I would say this is definitely AI Slop Lookscursing, as I am not living for any of it's character alterations.

All it's giving is, to quote the famous Drag Queen Thorgy Thor, "Oh Jesus, gross!"

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Quoting: EWGSo, besides exposure, does this do anything to help Godot?

Well, Mega Crit are a big donor to Godot too ;) https://fund.godotengine.org/

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Quoting: eggroleThere is a youtube channel I recently discovered while looking into this. Threat Interactive. I can't vouch for everything he says as a lot of it is above my paygrade, but his conclusions on how modern devs are totally slacking off and relying on the bait-and-switch of framegen seems spot on.

Threat Interactive have their problems of their own :(
https://old.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1qdpa3n/threat_interactive_filed_an_illegal_dmca_to_a_guy/

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"Repeatable events" is the last thing I'd want out of Starfield.

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I've been arguing for years about the possibility of the enshitification of linux. I think this is obviously a step in that direction. Microsoft (among others) has been lacking and it is catching up with them with more linux adoption.

Microsoft isn't stupid though and with their bags of money I'm sure they can influence stuff like this. Then it wouldn't even be hard to see MS "helping" these poor FOSS devs and getting (more of) a foothold in the development of linux if not outright having some of the FOSS devs walk away when they can't comply with these new artificial barriers.

If this goes through - and even if *this* doesn't society is barreling headlong in the surveillance everywhere direction so it will happen sooner or later if nothing changes - it will add more artificial barriers to entry for any new players in the arena.

And on this front, I'm at a loss for how to fight it. Sure we can maybe get some momentum and have the legislation stopped for now, but I simply don't see a world where this and an eventual internet real ID don't become a reality. Most people simply don't think about or care about privacy and are swayed too easily with the "for the children" garbage.

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This is my favourite meme on the topic up to now:
https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@makram/116244201641088147

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: rustynailTo me it seems fundamentally impossible that this will ever work well. DLSS only has the current frame to work with, so all of the information used to add whatever it adds to scene NVIDIA has to pull out of their ass. This is also true for upscaling which is why it will always have all the artifacts, but made up details that don't make any sense are obviously way worse.

To be clear, I don't know what this press release sentence means, and I'm not enthused about this whole schtick. But, this might be relevant to them claiming they can pull that off:

materials that are anchored to source 3D content and consistent from frame to frame.

One specific related thing I was thinking about is that because DLSS makes character faces kinda glow, it seems to sort of put fake light sources above them that don't actually exist, so I think it has no idea what is actually happening in the scene, and maybe even doesn't really have any real concept of lighting (at least in the sense in which it would be explicitly accessible to devs so they could actually tell what the model is doing rather than just spitting pixels out based on some unfathomable statistics or whatever). Tbh now that I think about it more, my argument about it only knowing about one or few frames is probably not even that important, because if something is not in the game then it's not in the game and it's going to be made up in any case, whether it's nonsensical faces or subtle random color changes all over the place.

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This framegen stuff is such a boondogle. Raster performance has been on the decline for years now and we are being sold DLSS/FSR as the next step, while it is clear that 10-year-old games like Crysis 3 and the Batman Arkham games (among others) had equal or better graphics while running on lower grade hardware at higher FPS.

There is a youtube channel I recently discovered while looking into this. Threat Interactive. I can't vouch for everything he says as a lot of it is above my paygrade, but his conclusions on how modern devs are totally slacking off and relying on the bait-and-switch of framegen seems spot on.

And this is coming from a guy who is general in favor of AI.

I fear that as the gaming industry progresses, the younger players who had no experience with the older hardware/software will literally not be able to comprehend a world without this stuff. Kind of like how post-9/11 the world was so different to those born before it, while those born after it know nothing but the techno surveillance state. 😡

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I mean the fact that this demo had to use TWO 5090's is just beyond bonkers.

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Quoting: EWGSo, besides exposure, does this do anything to help Godot?

Allows it to fulfill its purpose? Not much point to Godot existing if nobody ever uses it to make games.

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Quoting: Penguin"Winnie's Hole gets bigger..." 👀
What a way to kick off the day 😆

Not only bigger, but also "easier to play with on the go". 🤔

Liam knows his audience.

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Quoting: rustynailTo me it seems fundamentally impossible that this will ever work well. DLSS only has the current frame to work with, so all of the information used to add whatever it adds to scene NVIDIA has to pull out of their ass. This is also true for upscaling which is why it will always have all the artifacts, but made up details that don't make any sense are obviously way worse.

To be clear, I don't know what this press release sentence means, and I'm not enthused about this whole schtick. But, this might be relevant to them claiming they can pull that off:

materials that are anchored to source 3D content and consistent from frame to frame.

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It'S nOt A PhAsE mOm!1 🍌

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WOW that looks absolutely horrid. Their heads are so far up their own asses they couldn't tell? And then went on to be PROUD of that ...?

Oof. Ouch. Owie.

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I dread to think how they would improve [Ms. Pac-Man](https://shared.fastly.steamstatic.com/store_item_assets/steam/apps/403410/ss_81250f03a151f5874f9bdc58032093e758cd9636.1920x1080.jpg?t=1654680064)...

Anyway, more memes please ;p

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I sincerely hope AMD and Intel won't follow but something tells me they can't help themselves. AI slop must be everywhere.

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Nice feature to have and this is what Lutris does as well when you add a game on the program that you can link up to Steam. The last time I fiddled with RPCS3, I had to use some additional commands on the Launch Options after adding the emulator to Steam in order to get the games to run.

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and completely deserved too. Nvidia itself has become a meme

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It's great to hear games like Slay the Spire 2 being made on Godot over something like Unreal Engine and I hope they continue to have great success with every future game release.

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