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@cheeseness: Thanks, that was exactly my intent.
@motorsep: Indeed, no idea how steam works (I never had windows or a mac) and not trolling. And a clear ++ for 'not steam-only' ;^>

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Well yeah compared to others it may seem expensive but something that bugged me is that everyone expects games to be a lower when you used to buy stuff like it for much more still.

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Quoting: "liamdawe, post: 6051, member: 1"It's not a bad price at all I think, looking forward to seeing more games.

Compared to some of the other prices on Desura it is not that competitive. About five dollars more than what would be comparable.

I am not trying to bitch too much, and I am happy to see it is there, especially since there is no DRM as far as I am aware. Just making an observation.

EDIT: Case in point, Majesty is about 10$ and it is about comparable to Robin Hood I would say.

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It's not a bad price at all I think, looking forward to seeing more games.

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So, they have got one of their games up already.
http://www.desura.com/games/robin-hood-the-legend-of-sherwood

The good news: they put up a Linux title first.

The bad news: the price is still a little steep. But better than the $40 dollars that was listed for it at Tux Games when it was still in stock.

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Yeah, well, most of the things I would want out of Shockwave can be replaced by NaCL.

Still wish eZone would convert some their titles over, I might email and see if I can dig up anything about that.

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Pledged. I always wanted to make a game simulator of a space colony... in the universe of Aliens (the movie). This may not be exactly it, but at least it's inspired by the films. Hopefully, they will make it fully moddable.

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Quoting: "Hamish, post: 6043, member: 6"Me thinks they get a little too facetious at times...

EDIT: I am also depressed by the amount of native games and applications listed as being supported either by Codeweavers or the community. I mean seriously, who would want to wine Firefox!?

Shockwave is a reason, although I can't see anyone using it today.

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looks like a cool game indeed. also noticed that kickstarter uk does not use amazon as payment service but instead you need to enter you cc info on kickstarter.

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Me thinks they get a little too facetious at times...

EDIT: I am also depressed by the amount of native games and applications listed as being supported either by Codeweavers or the community. I mean seriously, who would want to wine Firefox!?

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Apparently public beta hasn't started :/ Oh well, if you get picked for the beta, and you own SS:BR on Steam, you'll get it on Linux. Or if you buy it on Windows, it will be unlocked on Linux too.

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Quoting: "motorsep, post: 6031, member: 154"Where have I ever said "SS:BR is Steam exclusive now" ? :confused:

Right here: "So now since Steam is on Linux too, Linux binaries are only available on Steam Linux."

Those words are pretty ambiguous, and could easily be interpreted to mean that "Linux binaries are only available on Steam Linux". Pit was asking for clarification in case that's what you were saying, not trolling you.

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done

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Yeah, I guess I meant to say it will be in the Library after you install Steam Linux :)

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Nothing is automatically downloaded FYI motorsep but i'm sure you know that, you do have to actually tell it to install ;)

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Looking over the officially supported stuff, the ratings seem ridiculous? Most of the source games are marked brozne, yet they work flawlessly in clean wine! And it also applies to many others!

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Quoting: "Cheeseness, post: 6020, member: 122"The only major difference at the moment that I know of is Office's new(ish) "ribbon" replacement for the toolbar.

Which almost everybody hates. ;)

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havent really found it useful...have tried couple of trials..without much of a success
pure wine or playonlinux seem to work better.

seems crossover is more focused on mac stuff...

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I am not really sure which is it - you don't know how Steam works or you are trying to troll me :)

Let's say you have Steam account and you are on Windows. Once you purchase a game, e.g. SS:BR, that has Mac OSX and Linux port, you can install it on any of those OS. So let's say you have dual boot with Ubuntu. That means once you install Steam on Ubuntu, SS:BR will be automatically downloaded and you can also play it on Linux. Which translates into "on Windows, you play SS:BR for Windows, on Linux you play SS:BR for Linux; no more mixing up binaries for different OS".

Where have I ever said "SS:BR is Steam exclusive now" ? o_O

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Quoting: "Cheeseness, post: 6001, member: 122"One thing I've learned from watching people transition to Linux is that experienced computer users don't like becoming novices.

Yes, that's the problem, they hate becoming novices after they've held their Windows expertise as a trophy. That's the kind of user that will break havoc in support forums saying that GNU/Linux is shit and broken because it doesn't work the way they expect and trying to teach others how it should work. Not everyone is willing to learn again.

I don't worry because a lot of users with low technical skills come to GNU/Linux. They'd be facing similar problems jumping to Windows 8 and no advantages, and Microsoft doesn't seem troubled by that. I'm more scared of the former users.

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[URL='http://ttt.badking.net/info']Trouble In Terrorist[/URL] town is a nice example of a game mode. People use it for posting and setting up stills and machinima (though I imagine that Source Filmmaker has taken away some of that audience).

There are also community models supplied that mimic non-source games as well.

I haven't spent a lot of time in it, but Mim and I have had lots of fun when we've played around.

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Quoting: "motorsep, post: 6022, member: 154"So now since Steam is on Linux too, Linux binaries are only available on Steam Linux.

Does this translate to 'your steam only offers binaries for your platform' or 'SS:BR is only available via Steam'? The latter would be :(

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I knew he would take up that challange if it was presented! I have had great fun in that game and it will be great to see it come to linux.

Garry's mod is at it's hard a goal less sandbox game But is very very extensible. You can make game modes in which you can do almost anything. Much more then in any (source) game.

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Perhaps.. I just was under impression it's already going on o_O (as I don't keep up with much right now while working on Steel Storm 2)

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Quoting: "motorsep, post: 6022, member: 154"Hmm.. I wonder why I was asked if I want to make Linux version available for SS:BR customers...

I imagine it's so that it will be available when the beta does go live (it makes sense to organise these things beforehand) ^_^

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Hmm.. I wonder why I was asked if I want to make Linux version available for SS:BR customers.. Anyhow, yes, but no longer. Now every OS gets its set of binaries. Just like if you have no Mac OS X, you won't have binaries for that under Windows. So now since Steam is on Linux too, Linux binaries are only available on Steam Linux.

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Quoting: "motorsep, post: 6019, member: 154"I am not 100% sure, but I thought it did.

The closed beta isn't live yet ;)

Game developers packaging their apps for the Linux Steam client have access to an internal version from what I understand (that's where talk of TF2 running so nicely under Linux is coming from :3 ), but that's the limit of its availability outside of Valve so far as I'm aware.

Also, weren't you always shipping Linux binaries in the Windows version of Steelstorm on Steam?

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Quoting: "Hyeron, post: 6002, member: 223"I dunno. I thoroughly enjoyed my GNU/Linux learning time, even though you could have heard me cursing my DSL modem all the way to Canberra. I think it has more to do with preconceptions and good will than becoming a novice again.

It's definitely a preconception and expectation thing. If you're not expecting to go through that transition of moving from being an experienced user to an inexperienced user, then it can be hard to have a positive experience migrating from Windows to Linux (it sounds like you were prepared for that, which is great :) ).

I wouldn't suggest that anybody who needs stuff to "just work" consider migrating to a new OS, whether it be from Windows to Linux or from MacOS to Windows or whatever, since things won't work the way they're used to, and that's a big hurdle that takes time and patience to overcome (it's not a downside of any particular OS, it's just a power that pre-learned behaviours have over us). In a lot of ways, it's really positive that these hurdles exist, because if they didn't, everything would be the same and there'd be no reason to try new things.

Quoting: "Bumadar, post: 6008, member: 93"If they install Open Office of Libre Office they suddenly end up in an application that is not even close anymore to what they know, there is no 100% guaranty that documents made at work can be viewed exactly the same at home.

Except that the whole purpose of Libre/Open Office is to be functionally identical to Microsoft Office (down to reproducing bugs as I discovered whilst writing an example macro for a LUG presentation). Sure, it's not 100%, but Libre/Open Office experience is definitely close enough to Microsoft Office that migration should be easy. The only major difference at the moment that I know of is Office's new(ish) "ribbon" replacement for the toolbar.

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I am not 100% sure, but I thought it did.

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So you mean to tell us, the beta has already started?

No key here. Bummer...

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