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Click and go is the same as eve online's system it seems.

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Yeah I do my work on Linux, won't last long once Steam comes!

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Quoting: "David Dreggors, post: 5644"Can someone please explain why so many people today equate PC with Windows?

PC stands for "Personal Computer" and to be more historically accurate "IBM Personal Computer" because it was IBM that first sold a home computer named "PC" or "Personal Computer".

In todays market PC refers to any IBM PC or IBM PC clone *regardless* of what Operating System one uses. Since Macintosh hardware was NOT Intel based originally, it was not called a PC or PC clone. Now that it uses Intel hardware though it *IS* a PC. Also, desktops/laptops running Linux have ALWAYS been PCs. They all run on x86 hardware which is what PC refers to!

By repeatedly saying a PC is a "Windows only" Desktop or Laptop, you show your lack of knowledge and you force your lack of knowledge on others who do not know. Please stop.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer
See the "IBM PC as standard" section to read on IBM PC compatibles and clones as well.

It's because back when "IBM PC compatible" was a term people actually used, it referred not only to the hardware, but also the software. And guess which software ran on IBM PCs? IBM Disk Operating System, written by a then small company called MicroSoft. (Note that Microsoft used to be capitalized as "MicroSoft", hence the abbreviation, "MS")

This is why Apple computers, PCs running Unixes, and others were not called IBM PC compatibles, and by extension, why they were not even called PCs. What really mattered then was that your PC clone ran a compatible version of IBM DOS that would ultimately run the same software programs. Over the course of 30+ years and it's not terribly difficult to understand why most people still mean a Microsoft OS when they say PC.

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They lost me at click and go, and pay for ingame money.

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My wallet may suffer soon. Poor thing. I have read that there are actually Linux users who like Linux due to the severe lack of games, allowing them to work away. Their productivity and their wallets will suffer soon as well!

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ensign-1 set a new trend :) 0x10c came after it (although not sure what OS's) and now this :)

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Certainly one to keep an eye on!

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They added another one: [URL='http://marlamin.com/cdr/single.php?type=app&id=218410']Valve Test App 218410[/URL]. I wonder. According to the install script, it's Defender's Quest though, which is an Adobe AIR app...

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Quoting: "liamdawe, post: 5742, member: 1"Desura is rather outdated and full of bugs, Desurium has A LOT of fixes since the official release.

hmm okies, but what sort of bugs ? wonder what I am missing :)

anyways, a google on desurium led me first to https://github.com/lodle/Desurium which had some activity in the last few months

next was http://www.moddb.com/groups/desurium which looked better and showed me there is a opensuse 1 click and also led the the previous github so I guess that is the right place then.

is there a list of fixes ?

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Quoting: "Hamish, post: 5744, member: 6"Looking at it's description page, what distinguishes it from another prominent zombie co-op based Steam offering may I ask?

They are quite different games.

Left 4 Dead is a story based shooter, everything is hand fed to you, you play to get from A to B basically.

Killing Floor is round based survival where you get money, buy your weapons, you also have specific character classes you can level up. Each maps mission is just to survive every round.

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I wonder how hard one would have to twist the arms of id Software for them to get on that list? (And I'm not even thinking about Rage...)

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Quoting: "liamdawe, post: 5742, member: 1"Killing Floor to me personally is a great game, especially since it's one game that used to tie me to Windows.

Looking at it's description page, what distinguishes it from another prominent zombie co-op based Steam offering may I ask?

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Quoting: "Bumadar, post: 5736, member: 93"lots on that list are HiB games, so makes nothing more then sense, I would say 90% of all HiB games come with a Steam Key, they all on my windows steam list so I assume they pop up on the linux steam list as well.

why desurium ? I have yet to find a issue with the default desura client, except maybe playing of flash/movies but I see that more as a linux issue then pure desura

Desura is rather outdated and full of bugs, Desurium has A LOT of fixes since the official release.

Quoting: "Anon, post: 5741"Hm, I was thinking about buying Killling Floor, but I kind of didn't want to spend on anything non-native. Good to see that.

Killing Floor to me personally is a great game, especially since it's one game that used to tie me to Windows.

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Hm, I was thinking about buying Killling Floor, but I kind of didn't want to spend on anything non-native. Good to see that.

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Quoting: "Bumadar, post: 5736, member: 93"lots on that list are HiB games, so makes nothing more then sense, I would say 90% of all HiB games come with a Steam Key, they all on my windows steam list so I assume they pop up on the linux steam list as well.

why desurium ? I have yet to find a issue with the default desura client, except maybe playing of flash/movies but I see that more as a linux issue then pure desura

Actually, those are not Flash videos - and yes, they have made them work properly in Desurium.

I was also running into performance problems and issues with file downloads on Desura.

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The LGP site looks just like from the last age :( I wouldn't buy any game as new user who doesn't know what's LGP.

So, I'm not surprised that they moved part of games to digital distribution platforms, which are popular at last time.

Furthermore, finally people can collect more games in one place.

---By the way ---
X3: Reunion and X2: The Threat aren't longer available, because them license with Egosoft was expired. People who earlier bought these games still can download from LGP servers.[B][/B]

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O M G, mindf*ck :D

I love funny indie games ;)

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lots on that list are HiB games, so makes nothing more then sense, I would say 90% of all HiB games come with a Steam Key, they all on my windows steam list so I assume they pop up on the linux steam list as well.

why desurium ? I have yet to find a issue with the default desura client, except maybe playing of flash/movies but I see that more as a linux issue then pure desura

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Yeah. I just signed up with new programmer and created base code base for idTech 4 (no more DarkPlaces). So, ToM has been having hard times unfortunately. No ETA on SS2, but one thing I can tell for sure - it will be on Steam :)

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Are you still developing TOM at all? Also any ETA on a first alpha for SS2?

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QuoteDo farmers not deserve honor? After all, they provide most of the food we eat.

You heard the man, kneel before me knaves! :p

Still, I have to roll my eyes at most of this.

EDIT: Then again...

QuoteThere are many obstacles and enemies that they must face. Those enemies include thieves, other farming organizations, politics, and even wild animals like wolves. We would like to show others what many people have to deal with in the agricultural world; things which may not be seen to all of the city-slickers, despite the rise in popularity of Farmer's Markets in metropolitan areas. We will like to show people what many people have to deal with in the agricultural world, which may not be seen to all of the city-slickers.

I am still laughing though. ;)

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Report it to them? They may not know the timer is off.

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ps. its not out today as the pre-order button says, but still 22:00 left, so that would make it 22-oct 15:00 cet

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nothing on phoronix about this ..... lol .... anyway purchased, looks like good fun and steam or desura does not mater to me

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Come to think of it, there was some talk years ago in the LGP blog about possibly also shipping Windows binaries for the games. They were apparently looking into it, wonder why nothing happened...

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Yep, Gameolith went cross-platform before summer.

Still if the titles don't have Steamplay, I don't think I'd buy them. Just don't like the idea of it.

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Actually Gameolith is multiplatform now :)

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I think it's pretty cool. I know I certainly prefer buy access to games on all the platforms rather than just Linux. That's one of the reason I use Desura and not Gameolith. (The other being the management interface). But I already knew when I was buying from LGP, I was buying Linux only. This just adds the download/management service I already know like.

As far as being DRM free goes, I believe they went through the trouble to add it the X2 which did not have DRM originally. I'm glad they did not go through the same trouble this time with Coldwar.

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I am really curious to hear whether or not this is a new policy on their front or if they have just simply never bothered to give Cold War any DRM yet.

But yes - they do need to get a couple new games out. Prove that things are still moving. Still, this gives me some hope. :D

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Yeah but they where outdated (missing patches) and missing expansions from what I remember so it's not a big loss.

You are right in terms of games they may be moving backwards but at least stuff like this Cold War should get them renewed revenue to at least keep going and hopefully bring some future titles.

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